Taimur: Pakistan's ICBM?

[Super Falcon]

is it true pakistan will build similar missile as taimur

 

[baba firangi]

Dont tel us how much we are capable for ... we already made NUCLEAR Missile out of ur imagination so dont care about us we know how to make ICBM!

Out of our imagination?.. Fair enough.. But isn't it that programs as intensive as ICBMs and even space launch vehicles require infrastructures and industrial inputs most of which are absolutely absent in Pakistan.. Lets say, how many heavy industries are there in Pakistan that can handle projects this mammoth? What is the scope of your industrial scientific input when your domestic industry isn't even capable of producing its own cars, tractors and commercial vehicles.. Forget cars, how many bicycles do you produce per year? How many reputed electronics and telecom brands have set up their manufacturing facilities in your country?.. Please would you care to throw some light on your domestic capability to undertake such defence and engineering projects? or if you are happy with your rhetoric, then, very well... Kudos to your ICBM program..

 

[rohailmalhi]

Bro i we can make atomic bomb without being capable of making cars, tractors,bicycle or even the needle tht doesnt matter. We always did things which seem impossible to the world, so if we want to make ICBM we will make it .

 

[Super Falcon]

agreed but when do we make

 

[TechLahore]

Out of our imagination?.. Fair enough.. But isn't it that programs as intensive as ICBMs and even space launch vehicles require infrastructures and industrial inputs most of which are absolutely absent in Pakistan.. Lets say, how many heavy industries are there in Pakistan that can handle projects this mammoth? What is the scope of your industrial scientific input when your domestic industry isn't even capable of producing its own cars, tractors and commercial vehicles.. Forget cars, how many bicycles do you produce per year? How many reputed electronics and telecom brands have set up their manufacturing facilities in your country?.. Please would you care to throw some light on your domestic capability to undertake such defence and engineering projects? or if you are happy with your rhetoric, then, very well... Kudos to your ICBM program..

What world are you living in? You really do have your head buried in the sand... or wherever.

Pakistan produces almost its entire domestic requirement for bicycles, and has been doing so since decades. Sohrab cycles are amongst the most popular. BMX/sports cycles are manufactured by Dawood Hercules. We also produce motorcycles in a variety of fully locally owned factories... everything from engine production up. Electric vehicle production has also started in Pakistan. Faraz Khan's Karachi based startup produced a concept vehicle based on the Pakistani-produced Mehran car, called Elektra I. Faraz' concern is now going to produce a much improved, custom built vehicle known as Elektra II. The entire spectrum of small-large enterprises; everything from billion+ $ industrial giants such as Dawood group and small startups like Faraz Khan's company are working every day to spur innovation in Pakistan.

More than 80% of the cars used in Pakistan are manufactured domestically. Pakistan has completely domestically designed and manufactured cars, such as the Adam Revo or Proficient trucks, as well as joint ventures such as Pak Suzuki, Toyota, Honda (Atlas group), Hyundai and Kia (with Deewan Group) etc. Many of these Korean/Japanese joint ventures are manufactured in Pakistan, not just assembled.

Pakistan's Millat Tractors have the largest market share for tractors in Pakistan. I have personally seen the smallest components that go into these tractors being produced from scratch in extrusion machines, on lathes and assembly lines. Hino-Pak manufactures tens of thousands of trucks for civil and military uses.

Coming to heavy mechanical and R&D capabilities, the NDC alone employs 35,000 scientists and engineers. KRL employs a similar number. The HRF in Taxila is not a factory but a series of towns full of electrical and mechanical factories. Pakistan's SUPARCO launched its domestic rocketry program in the 60s with sounding rockets, and then domestically produced Badr I, the first Pakistani satellite, in the 80s. It was launched in June 1990 on board a Chinese SLV. Two dozen Pakistani physicists and scientists are working on the Super Collider project. And this is just a small sliver of the government sector... we haven't even gotten to Kamra, KSY, NUST or any of these other institutions.

Pakistan Telecom's Hazara plant manufactures telecom, computer and exchange equipment including PCB design, layout, multi-layer board production, pick and place, mechanical design for enclosures, production of plastic and metal enclosures (ABS, extrusion etc.) from scratch. Private sector companies such as Inbox, Raffles and Viper assemble PCs (increasing locally manufactured components, for example, some boards are now assembled from raw components). Pakistan's Five Rivers Technologies has designed and produced a handheld computer from scratch including producing PCBs locally. Mentor Graphics in Lahore produces FPGA, board design and a variety of other electronic products for Mentor Graphics US, PalmChip in Lahore also does electronic design and manufacturing. DWP Group produces Samsung LCD televisions in their Multan Road factory... the list goes on and on.

Chinese cell phone from-scratch manufacturing is now starting up in Pakistan. Joint ventures between China and Pakistan, such as the one between Dong Feng, or Qingqi, have also yielded full domestic production of trucks, cars, CNG vans etc. In fact, Pakistan has the largest number of CNG vehicles of any country in the world.

For more, please visit this link which provides a list of other accomplishments complete with citations.

So please, educate yourself before blathering about something you are clearly not in the know of.

 

[mean_bird]

Out of our imagination?.. Fair enough.. But isn't it that programs as intensive as ICBMs and even space launch vehicles require infrastructures and industrial inputs most of which are absolutely absent in Pakistan.. Lets say, how many heavy industries are there in Pakistan that can handle projects this mammoth? What is the scope of your industrial scientific input when your domestic industry isn't even capable of producing its own cars, tractors and commercial vehicles.. Forget cars, how many bicycles do you produce per year? How many reputed electronics and telecom brands have set up their manufacturing facilities in your country?.. Please would you care to throw some light on your domestic capability to undertake such defence and engineering projects? or if you are happy with your rhetoric, then, very well... Kudos to your ICBM program..

The same industries that made Shaheen-II and Babur and Ra'ad. Building an ICBM is not much difficult if you have multiple stage boosters technology using solid state fuels which the shaheen has. Similarly, in my opinion though I'm not an expert, building a 4000-5000km missile is probably the same or less complicated than building a 700km cruise missile.

We do have heavy mechanical and electrical complex (in taxila), the air weapons complex, the steel mills, etc and labs such as KRL, NESCOM, SUPARCO, PAEC, etc are quite capable of doing it.

Building cars, bikes, or needles is another matter. Its a competition and private investors have to face it. Private investment, taking risk, being able to make better things at a lesser price dictates businesses, marketing, etc are required for those. For military equipments on the other hand, things are different. For ICBMS, the investors are govts and the products do not compete for price in the market. And believe it or not, most parts used are off-the-shelf stuff freely available.

Oh and btw, we do make bicycles and motorcycles and even cars. What we lack are big business tycoons that can afford the initial investment required for setting up new brands but thats another story altogether.

 

[TechLahore]

Your post proves nothing........

Au contraire. It proves that you do not comprehend the discussion.

 

[baba firangi]

Your post proves nothing........

No brother, it actually does.. If you cut off the first and the last lines, the post is very informative..

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

I suppose Pakistan wanted to develop its Space Technology program further, and it only comes after you master multi stage , booster technology to speed up a settelite out of orbit etc

 

[notorious_eagle]

Out of our imagination?.. Fair enough.. But isn't it that programs as intensive as ICBMs and even space launch vehicles require infrastructures and industrial inputs most of which are absolutely absent in Pakistan.. Lets say, how many heavy industries are there in Pakistan that can handle projects this mammoth? What is the scope of your industrial scientific input when your domestic industry isn't even capable of producing its own cars, tractors and commercial vehicles.. Forget cars, how many bicycles do you produce per year? How many reputed electronics and telecom brands have set up their manufacturing facilities in your country?.. Please would you care to throw some light on your domestic capability to undertake such defence and engineering projects? or if you are happy with your rhetoric, then, very well... Kudos to your ICBM program..

Indian Propaganda is really taking a toll on average Indians.

 

[Evil Flare]

oye BABA FIRANGI Troller


come on here & Resume the Discussion .....

Your each & Every Point is Gone BUSTED ...

 

[UchihaCG]

Indian Propaganda is really taking a toll on average Indians.

Building an ICBM isn't easy. I won't challenge your scientists brains, but you have no economy to support $$ for research.

 

[antartica]

The thing is not that Whether its developed by Pakistanis or not . but the thing is that they have it .

 

[HMZ]

Pakistan Nuclear Arsenal Is One Of The Finest In Whole World. Nuclear Weapons Are Added To Inventory Before Their Test ,Visible To Any Other Nation.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

I don't think Pakistan is ever interested in any wars - but technological advancement is means to defend borders