Taimur: Pakistan's ICBM?

[mourning sage]

Being a moderator we expect you to post some sensible posts so that we could learn from you. Posting baseless stuff just for the purpose of argument is of no worth. How have you come to a conclusion that AAD and PAD are upgraded Israeli systems? Atleast spare India on this issue..Indian efforts are Indigenous and if you dont agree...i'd expect you to provide a source.

yeah right
just like the LCA, would you call this extraordinary project with most of imported components indeginous?
n i dont think i need to provide a source for that.

 

[Hindutvadi]

yeah right
just like the LCA, would you call this extraordinary project with most of imported components indeginous?
n i dont think i need to provide a source for that.

Oh...waht are those most of imported components?

 

[Safron Slayer]

Its rather easy to name the home grown things than the exported ones just because the list is very long.
So the "Indigenous" things built in home are..... landing wheels, external lCD lights, Aluminium, steel, paint and most important the super duper name " Tejas "

 

[Bharatrox]

Priorities. Every country has their own. Your life may revolve around the capabilities of Pakistan and China, but ours obviously doesn't.

Pakistan's geopolitical position makes it more important for us to develop an ICBM than an SLV, hence that is the first choice. Also, Pakistan has always focused on an incremental model, whereas India seems to focus on a spiral model of development. These are project engineering terms, you should Google them.

I do not believe this. It is just an excuse. No one in the world will deny the launch of a satellite for themselves. It helps them in 100 ways. Even if you are concentrating more on Missile developments, satellite is something a first part of it. Because To build a Ballistic missile one should first know how satellites are thrown. Reentry of the RV and making a rocket so compact is a very late stage, after understanding rockets. But your case is a bit different. You had M-11(MRBM) from the start. But what I really appreciate is the painting job, because putting it on a ballistic missile is seriously a different area of study and requires Phd level people to do that job and to fuel and launch it. I am not kidding.

Umm... Before this fit, you should have gone and researched the capabilities of the AAD and the PAD vis-a-vis Pakistan's missiles. Neither one of these will help against Pakistan's top-notch ballistic missiles (Shaheen and Ghauri), and China's missiles will be launched from beyond the detection range, so what, then, is the purpose of these systems? I mean, all you've got is upgraded Israeli tech built to counter Iraqi and Iranian ballistic programs.

well, we have many things to detect and can detect 100kg object 300,000kms from earth.
That is for detection.
Coming to Iraqi and Iranian thing, well you need to revise your lessons.


Now coming to your war scenario, if missiles were have to be launched, till now you and they would have launched it. What is stopping you to launch the missile?? I think it is the same nuclear threat you posses. That is enough. Nearing to destroying a Ballistic missile is not yet 100% prove, may be we have 1% chance of destroying it. But we can destroy satellites it's just a political decision.

 

[farhan_9909]

Can a re entry vehicle is used for Setellite launching only or can be used for any other purpose also?

an indian told me pak dnt have re entry capability if it would have then pak would have launched its own setellite

 

[Bharatrox]

Can a re entry vehicle is used for Setellite launching only or can be used for any other purpose also?

an indian told me pak dnt have re entry capability if it would have then pak would have launched its own setellite

no its the other way round. What we are wondering is, Pakistan has a reentry Vehicle technology, and compact missiles, why cant Pakistan launch its satellite a simple 50-100 kg satellite.

Because mostly what happens, first you do experiments, how an object is thrown into space in a particular orbit. Once you master that then later you do reentry experiments.

 

[ARSENAL6]

Inspite of having 1500 km range missiles , Why Pakistan is very behind in launching satellites.
India to launch 30 communication satellites in a decade that means, every year 3 satellites.

Is pakistan will be doing the same thing ?

satalight is a must for defence.

 

[DesiGuy]

Is pakistan will be doing the same thing ?

satalight is a must for defence.

i heard china is launching for them in 2011.

don't know if it's for military though.

 

[ARSENAL6]

i heard china is launching for them in 2011.

don't know if it's for military though.

Yeah I heard that but I was wondering if Pakistan was having its own launch pad

or even have a man in space.

 

[AUz]

Yeah I heard that but I was wondering if Pakistan was having its own launch pad

or even have a man in space.

Well, it depends on economy.Look with a economy of just$166 billions, we are still doing better (in Ballistic missile program) than the countries having 10x larger economies

 

[ARSENAL6]

Well, it depends on economy.Look with a economy of just$166 billions, we are still doing better (in Ballistic missile program) than the countries having 10x larger economies

Well i hope you get there.

 

[Developereo]

But what I really appreciate is the painting job, because putting it on a ballistic missile is seriously a different area of study and requires Phd level people to do that job and to fuel and launch it. I am not kidding.

Pakistani universities do not offer PhD; they all stop at the masters level.

I heard a rumor that a university in Karachi has launched a PhD program, but I think is in 'advanced painting materials'.

I am not kidding.

 

[khurasaan1]

thanks for reading. personally i beleive in viewing every thing with relation to time. and my time domain is spirtually governed. its the way i integrate things and i simply dont beleive how secular pakistani generals think.

the point is that in next 5 - 10 years, we are seeing a massive war in middle east. in parallel to that pakistan will be forced to TAP-OUT against its passion for nukes. i do think if americans really want they can precisely target all our mobile launchers and can dismantle us wihtin hours. so there is no need for ICBM. no need at all.

as a muslim i am not prepared to win. but i am prepared to put in my best. as a muslim i beleive the forces of zionism will win , and only then the salvation will come.

"in the end times there will be so much blood shed in the middle east that 999 our of 1000 arabs will die" - Prophet Muhammad (PBUH).

the 60 billion $ deal cannot stop that blood shed neither do our limited and innocent ICBM.

but it is sunnah to equip our forces with all kindz of available weapons....no matterz what and ICBMs are one of them...

 

[MM_Haider]

Pakistani universities do not offer PhD; they all stop at the masters level.
I heard a rumor that a university in Karachi has launched a PhD program, but I think is in 'advanced painting materials'.

I am not kidding.

Referring to the bold line above, i didn't get you! Could you please elaborate further...?

 

[Muhammad-Bin-Qasim]

but it is sunnah to equip our forces with all kindz of available weapons....no matterz what and ICBMs are one of them...

It not just about Sunnah... Its common sense... To hit Mobile Launchers takes time during which you can send them ballistic missiles flying!!!