Syrian air defenses repel Israeli aggression, intercept several hostile missiles over Damascus

[Mithridates]

These air defences in syria never shoot down a fighter or a drone

But they are so good i' shooting down missiles (unvarifiable claims)

Israelis mostly use Lebanon airspace or MED sea to launch their attacks. systems like tor-m are designed to target munitions...

 

[Philosopher]

My friend you might have some degree of autism and you deny Russia sold Syria the S-300 and trained Syrian crews for it, I guess I will leave that.

https://m-jpost-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/m.jpost.com/middle-east/syrians-are-practicing-with-the-s-300-will-they-ever-use-it-report-584563/amp?amp_js_v=a3&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQIKAGwASDAAQE=#aoh=15880618842384&referrer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From %1$s&ampshare=https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/syrians-are-practicing-with-the-s-300-will-they-ever-use-it-report-584563

None of these are countering the point I made. They can train them, it does not mean those systems today are under the control of Syrians. Everything that I have seen thus far points to the S-300 being under the control of the Russians.

Ahahahah reliability doesn't matter? It matters more than CEP, it's the thing that ensures your missile lands on target and not some random village on the way to your target.

What ensures your missiles land where they're suppose to is CEP. In terms reliability, i.e missiles making it in space etc, I already told you what steps are taken to deal with these inherent issues of ballistic missiles. Focus on the comments properly prior to clicking that reply bottom.

Yea obviously you can't assume a 100% success rate, Iranian missiles are garbage.

Iranian missiles are one of the most accurate and advanced missiles according to the expert. Shall we take their opinion, or someone who gets their information from wikipedia and has yet to learn a simple concept such as CEP?

Yea but you gotta hit the target first

And I suppose the targets being hit accurately in those satellite pictures did not show that?

1 of them missed the target by 20 kilometers.

According to you and wikipedia? In reality, nothing of the sort happened. I am still waiting for you to show me what was this target that was missed by 20,000 meters.

It's just that Iranian quality is garbage that can only achieve a 29% hit ratio.

Already debunked this multiple times. Apparently you think by repeating the same comment, we'll forget that you don't even know what CEP is.

The steps you suggested to take rely on an infinite supply of missiles, which you don't have.

Perhaps refrain from making mathematical comments given your rather obviously ineptitude in this area.

Those are the 5 hits I've been talking about, out of the 17 fired, where are the rest?

That is one of the bases that were targeted. Honestly, do you even do a basic research?

Here's one, not only did it miss, but it also didn't explode

Apparently you can't even differentiate between the stages of missiles and it's warhead. I am not surprised.

Is that why they reported on 80 American casualties, which is clearly a lie?

"Clearly a lie", according to whom?

because you don't have that capability.

According to your own experts, we do.

How many times do we need to bomb them until they will finally paralyze us, as you say they're capable of?

So you have nothing to reply with except the same questions? You think by going in circles you have avoid the facts?

I don't know about our ballistic missile CEP but I don't think we need it to be that small for a MIRV warhead anyway.

Which is exactly what I said. Obviously you're not even reading the comments and just replying. How sad.

 

[Mithridates]

Now with the oil prices being negative, the Iranian terror regime is under more and more pressure.

during ahmadinejad 8 year presidency we were under the same sanctions applies on us now and we survived. now crawl back to your cave.

 

[Mithridates]

@Beny Karachun
beny let me put it this way, according to dumb *** pentagon which does not know anything about us, we have 2000-2500 BMs. even with 0.26 success rate we can hit 520-680. according to the US personnel in eyn-al assad base, they stood in their shelters for hours until US could get intel that we will not launch another strike.
1-this means US has no real time surveillance over us so they do not know what we are doing. 2- also it means to make an air base useless we just need to launch an strike with 6 missiles every half an hour or 20 minutes (shorter period of time needed for a fighter jet to get fuel, armament and etc and fly).
this two point mean while US (or any other opponents) air base is under attack they will not be able to fly their fighter jets=no air superiority over us=we have air superiority==> enemy destruction.
now with 520/6 missile per strike, we can 87 times strike enemy with precision. following with the same amount of sorties, each compromised of lets say 8 f-4 armed with two 2000lb qassed bombs... means we will deliver 1392 guided mk-84 to their targets along with 520 BMs.
that is why US was pushing Saudi Arabia and PGCC to a war with us because unlike US which it's presence here is merely ~40 bases, they can take more hits and still survive. the only US threat would be diego-carcia and it's carriers groups including subs.
also it does explains why Iran wanted the SU-30 while MIG-35 has better chance against modern threats. 8 tons of munitions carried up to 1300 km without air refueling.
all this calculations are done with considering your 0.26 success rate and pentagons 2-2.5 thousand missile estimations. while the reality is different:

 

[Beny Karachun]

@Beny Karachun
beny let me put it this way, according to dumb *** pentagon which does not know anything about us, we have 2000-2500 BMs. even with 0.26 success rate we can hit 520-680. according to the US personnel in eyn-al assad base, they stood in their shelters for hours until US could get intel that we will not launch another strike.
1-this means US has no real time surveillance over us so they do not know what we are doing. 2- also it means to make an air base useless we just need to launch an strike with 6 missiles every half an hour or 20 minutes (shorter period of time needed for a fighter jet to get fuel, armament and etc and fly).
this two point mean while US (or any other opponents) air base is under attack they will not be able to fly their fighter jets=no air superiority over us=we have air superiority==> enemy destruction.
now with 520/6 missile per strike, we can 87 times strike enemy with precision. following with the same amount of sorties, each compromised of lets say 8 f-4 armed with two 2000lb qassed bombs... means we will deliver 1392 guided mk-84 to their targets along with 520 BMs.
that is why US was pushing Saudi Arabia and PGCC to a war with us because unlike US which it's presence here is merely ~40 bases, they can take more hits and still survive. the only US threat would be diego-carcia and it's carriers groups including subs.
also it does explains why Iran wanted the SU-30 while MIG-35 has better chance against modern threats. 8 tons of munitions carried up to 1300 km without air refueling.
all this calculations are done with considering your 0.26 success rate and pentagons 2-2.5 thousand missile estimations. while the reality is different:
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So 520 ballistic missiles, with varying range, split between US bases, Israel and other Arab nations, and that's before air defenses and counter strikes.
You do understand that's not going to win you the war right?

America had air superiority and always will have, your ballistic missiles are no threat for a maneuvering aircraft carrier. Air defenses and jets already in the air will kill any crappy old F4 your have.

How is reality different? You can clearly see hits number 9,8, 1 missing, and the rest hit uncrucial buildings, dealing no significant damage

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/b...f-22-raptor-until-it-was-already-flying-under

Here's what will happen to your F4s.

 

[Oublious]

Are you siding with Israel?

This is the fact, nobody is siding with Israel.

 

[Mithridates]

You do understand that's not going to win you the war right?

on the contrary, i believe we will win against any US aggression in first phase. rest of that war would depend on how our allies perform during the first phase and world political atmosphere.

 

[Philosopher]

How is reality different? You can clearly see hits number 9,8, 1 missing,

9 and 8 are the missiles hitting the run ways. Runways are a critical target in an airbase. Iran said they were one of the main targets.
And 1 hit a small shelter which apparently housed a UAV.

Either you already know this and are just pretending to not know or you are simply out of your depth here.

 

[925boy]

S300 & S400 only Russian have in Russian bases in Syria,
Syria have only S200 and other low quality defense systems

False. Syria has its own S300s, but obv, Russia either controls its use or controls it directly via its personnel/officers.

Hasn't Iran deployed its indigenous anti-air defense systems in Syria? For Syrians, the Iranian missiles would be much better, as they've not been compromised yet.

I worry Iran cant fit its AD systems into transport aircrafts it uses to ship weapons to Syria.

It's good that even with the global pandemic, Israel is still squashing Iranian terrorist bugs and sending them back to Tehran in body bags. 4 Iranians and 3 Hezzies eliminated.

Keep it up Israel

EVer since US killed SOleimani, neither US NOR Israel has killed any Iran linked forces. prove me wrong. All they do nowadays is destroy equipments and facilities, like Turkey.

No Iranians killed? How come the trucks and the weapons on board are Iranian?

those were emptied of lives b4 Israel was allowed to do its useless duck shoot.

Btw i read last week that IDF soldiers on teh border fired 15 bullets into something on the border with Lebanon that turned out to be a water container? lol.

ISraeli military = only IAF + AD systems.

This is strange form of reasoning. Just because the weapon in questions belong to Iran, it does not equate to casualties being Iranian too.

THis guy is usually sharp on this forum, but over the past few months, i've noticed the gaps in his understanding of ME issues. I' m surprised to hear him say false crap ...directly. smh.

Sure, Iranians are invincible like Qasem Salami...oh wait.

Iranians have boots on the ground in Syria. Iranians are smuggling weapons in Syria to Hezbollah. Israel is hitting these weapons. And you believe the Iranians are escaping each time, yet independent observers are reporting Iranian deaths each time.

YES. its on your troll to give us evidence that Iranians were killed in these IAF strikes in SYria. we are waiting!!

Then these poor Arabs pass along Sulemani Location to US and Kaboom..

but since US learned via miscalculation(Trump, u dumb, again) that killing an Iranian general can kick US out of a colony-in-the-making AKA Iraq, US hasnt killed Axis-related forces in Iraq or Syria. US learned a lesson from overplaying its hand, (again)

Remember if you bomb, you can be bombed; and boy is Iran making big bombs, enough to flatten Tel-Aviv.

just wait till US moves its 2 ACs in the Persian Gulf out. THese countries like Israel will stop their strikes in Syria. just wait.

You are clearly out of touch with reality, Iran proved their capability by their deadly accurate strike in Iraq. Their long range IBMs are just as accurate, they also have cruise missiles. As for Pakistan's ability don't even think about it, as we can wipe you off the map in minutes.

NO LIE DETECTED.

Mullahs destroyed Iranian economy by supporting Assad and other terrorists. That what matters.

Good try at trying to derail the thread.

You don't seem to get it, no one is asking Iran to do anything. We are giving people reality of Iranian policies in region which in most cases has nothing to do with Israel. Problem is members on this forum who pretend otherwise.

Did u give the "people of the region" reality of US policies? or Israeli policies? only IRanian policies? as your fellow Muslim? Bro, please show your TUrkish flag.

You won't be able to either.


Call it reliability then, because at the end of the day, only 5 missiles actually hit something meaningful, out of 17. So fine then, you have pinpoint accuracy *unreliable* missiles, that aren't even guranteed to explode on target.

How much is the missile accuracy worth if it has a 4/17 chance of failing mid air, 1/17 chance of missing the target by 20 kilometers, 1/17 chance of not blowing up on target and 6/17 chance of missing the building it was intending to hit?



Unfortunate that the weapon you so dearly rely on is inherently prone to failure.

I don't know what Iran had targeted. What I definitely know is that Iran has shown us it couldn't scratch a single American soldier with 17 of their ballistic missiles.

That picture means nothing, a broken watch is still correct twice a day, so are your missiles.


Whatever mate, for all I care the reason of Iran or Syria not retaliating could be that a UFO has probed Assad, you're the one getting humiliated, and you do nothing in return.


You have uncertainty in your own words, and you want me to prove it to you?
Fine then
https://www.timesofisrael.com/satel...entire-s-300-air-defenses-likely-operational/



Iran hasn't paralyzed us yet and we haven't nuked them in return,so nothing shows how vulnerable we are, and you haven't proved you can paralyze us. If you could, you would have done that already.

Sure, if Iran will try to paralyze us, we will most definitely paralyze them. You see, your ballistic missiles might take out a power station or two, if they don't blow up midair, land somewhere else, miss their target by 20 kilometers, get intercepted by many layers of air defense, and fail to blow up on impact, like your missiles have a tendency to.

But our ballistic missiles are on another level.


This is an article from 2018 and the Syrians crew were trained a long time ago.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_Air_Defense_Force

Go to the inventory tab. The Syrian's haven't bought the S-300 from the Russians just so they could operate it, in addition to the S-300 and S-400 that were already based in Syria.

Bro, you are running your mouth too much with BS.

You focus on the "4/17" ballistic missiles Iran shot at Iraq that didnt hit, but you forgot to ask US how the other 13 ccurate ones that gave 110 US SOLDIERS PERMANENT BRAIN INjury felt. so once again, you prove you are unable to see both sides of this issue objectively. you're just giving us fake stats to believe your fake lies.

as of today, Israel has never been more afraid to expose its ground forces!! thats facts. the behaviors on ISrael's borders by IDF proves it. they are scared scared scared. they will def run into ISrael when ground conflict occurs.

 

[500]

Good try at trying to derail the thread.

In the end economics is what matters.

USSR collapsed not because it has not small rockets or not enough tanks but because of economics. Same will happen to ur mullas. And war in Syria will bring their collapse much sooner.

 

[Beny Karachun]

those were emptied of lives b4 Israel was allowed to do its useless duck shoot.

Btw i read last week that IDF soldiers on teh border fired 15 bullets into something on the border with Lebanon that turned out to be a water container? lol.

ISraeli military = only IAF + AD systems.

No they weren't bro
Iranians with Iranian weaponry inside, 7 dead.

I don't know about that water container story.
Iranian army= only ballistic missiles

Bro, you are running your mouth too much with BS.

You focus on the "4/17" ballistic missiles Iran shot at Iraq that didnt hit, but you forgot to ask US how the other 13 ccurate ones that gave 110 US SOLDIERS PERMANENT BRAIN INjury felt. so once again, you prove you are unable to see both sides of this issue objectively. you're just giving us fake stats to believe your fake lies.

as of today, Israel has never been more afraid to expose its ground forces!! thats facts. the behaviors on ISrael's borders by IDF proves it. they are scared scared scared. they will def run into ISrael when ground conflict occurs.

I'm pretty sure ballistic missiles are supposed to kill, not shock some infantry.

Who told you that's permenant, or damage at all?
By the way majority of those 110 men came back into service within days.

Why would we expose our ground units? They're defensive not offensive, you want us to conquer Damascus in order to kill some Iranian soldiers delivering weapons?

Just so you know, Sayeret Matkal and the Mossad operate within Syria covertly, with ground troops.

 

[Falcon29]

You focus on the "4/17" ballistic missiles Iran shot at Iraq that didnt hit, but you forgot to ask US how the other 13 ccurate ones that gave 110 US SOLDIERS PERMANENT BRAIN INjury felt.

Zero injuries, they are just trying to get disability checks from the government.

Iran warned them 6 hours ahead by the way.

 

[Aspen]

Zero injuries, they are just trying to get disability checks from the government.

Iran warned them 6 hours ahead by the way.

Sounds like what an Israeli would say

 

[Falcon29]

Sounds like what an Israeli would say

You're lame just like rest of Iran fanboys on this forum. We're all bored of your 'you sound like Israeli' cliche by now. You guys are trying to pass these delusions off to us and it is not working. You guys know nothing, zero troops were injured and they were in shelter already since Iran gave US warning ahead of time.

All those troops are trying to get disability claim in order to make free money when they get back home just like social security payments. That's all there is to it.

but since US learned via miscalculation(Trump, u dumb, again) that killing an Iranian general can kick US out of a colony-in-the-making AKA Iraq, US hasnt killed Axis-related forces in Iraq or Syria. US learned a lesson from overplaying its hand, (again)

It would be considered miscalculation if the US did it to any other country but with Iran ... Iran made it so that the US had no price to pay and even granted US drama free exit from whole situation. Iran attacked empty base with few missiles and gave warning ahead of time. US committed much more grave act in killing of Iranian general.

Even Al Shabab did better job in attacking US base and actually inflicted casualties. Your boyz in Iran got outdone by a dirt poor terrorist group in Africa.

 

[Philosopher]

You're lame just like rest of Iran fanboys on this forum. We're all bored of your 'you sound like Israeli' cliche by now. You guys are trying to pass these delusions off to us and it is not working.

Actually he has a good point. You do sound awfully similar to the Israelis here.

You guys know nothing, zero troops were injured and they were in shelter already since Iran gave US warning ahead of time.

And the reason for this is apparent for anyone with minimal level of rationality.

It would be considered miscalculation if the US did it to any other country but with Iran ... Iran made it so that the US had no price to pay and even granted US drama free exit from whole situation.

Of course, Iran should have invaded the US mainland in retaliation to satisfy the standards of you Palestinians.

Iran attacked empty base with few missiles and gave warning ahead of time. US committed much more grave act in killing of Iranian general.

When was the last time anyone attacked a US base in peacetime? And once again, see above.

Even Al Shabab did better job in attacking US base and actually inflicted casualties. Your boyz in Iran got outdone by a dirt poor terrorist group in Africa.

Yes, let's compare non state actors to an entire nation. It's indeed a brilliant analogy.