Swiss halt Muslim family's citizenship process after refusal to shake hands

[Penguin]

Once upon a time they found monarchy/ colonial system and they enforced it all over then they found communism and followed by marxism and they enforced it all over...Now democracy....Tomorrow it will be liberal far right!

Yeah, right, the former colonizers all were pushing their ex colonies towards marxism and communism. That was really in their 'western' interest.....

LOL you have a habit of trying to make sense out of something that doesn't even exist. You know exactly who i was referring to and i don't think i have to feed your "Brain Farts" to lead the discussion astray.

My my, temper temper. I sincerely hope that you don't lower yourself to any further insulting remarks.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Forget the handshake , I am all for nose shake

 

[Penguin]

Forget the handshake , I am all for nose shake

Great! How does that work out, in terms of germs?

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Great! How does that work out, in terms of germs?

As long as the lady is under 30

 

[Penguin]

Nice try. Now take off your Anti-Muslim hat and hit the bed, all this "logical talk" is clearly not doing you any favors and don't bother about my getting low, you still will beat me at that.

I challenge you to point out which one of my posts here has been anti-muslim in any way. Seriously.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

You consider it disrespect we Muslims consider it respect to the woman and her family.

Now what will happen if I don't shake hands with a woman that I don't know would the world stop spinning or the woman lose her job or it's the end of the world.

I think we Muslims respect woman more than the others many folds of times that's our believe and we are free to believe so and no one has the rite to tell me to change mine.

Now Muslims are not isis or terrorists and every one try to blame Muslims for it he is not innocent and he has problem with Muslims based on religious complexes.

stop it and get a life.

Nah, there is a limited number of Muslims that does not shake hands with Women.
It is quite common to shake hands with Women, and those that don't are considered extremists.

Women are definitely more repressed in the Muslim World, than here.
Examples:
* Restriction on dressing (All over the place)
* Not allowed to go to school (Talibanistan)
* Not allowed to drive (KSA)
* Raped and sold as slaves (Daesh)


What would happen, is that You get ostrasized, and You might be out of a job.
At least the politician was...

If I someone calls You SandNigger, and says he does so "out of respect", would that be acceptable? think not.

If You find out that Women take offense if You do not shake hand, do You shake hand.
If not, then do not claim that your choice is out of respect.
Then it is only an excuse.

 

[Djinn]

I challenge you to point out which one of my posts here has been anti-muslim in any way. Seriously.

Geez man! Calm down, i only asked you to take off your hat, I didn't accuse you of anything. FYI sometimes certain things are too obvious and even over come the hidden intent. If you want us to believe that the Muslims are treated fairly in Europe and this is an isolated incident then you are not fooling us.

 

[Malik Alashter]

If You find out that Women take offense if You do not shake hand

Any way this has nothing to do with offense if the woman knows it a religious matter this is just like when some one next to me eat pork while I don't eat it how come that would be considered offensive it's a little of tolerance and some understanding and then trust me we would live together with no problem.

All of your points are not accepted by most of the muslims.

We have many Muslims women with high degree in many fields like physicians engineers and so on /if it is as bad as you think we wouldn't have all that.

Also don't build on what you see and hear about those isis and their kind most of the Muslims don't support them.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Geez man! Calm down, i only asked you to take off your hat, I didn't accuse you of anything. FYI sometimes certain things are too obvious and even over come the hidden intent. If you want us to believe that the Muslims are treated fairly in Europe and this is an isolated incident then you are not fooling us.

Well .. Frankly Europe is still better at treating her minoroties than us or any other Muslim or Asian country.

 

[Yeezy]

Didn't some Muslim politician in Sweden recently resign because he didn't want to shake hands with a woman? I don't know why such extremists and orthodox people come to the West. Western countries have their own progressive culture and its sickening to see immigrants trying to carry out and impose their culture in Western countries.

 

[Djinn]

Well .. Frankly Europe is still better at treating her minoroties than us or any other Muslim or Asian country.

That is true to an extent but when they see that you are a Muslim you don't even qualify for the minority rights. As mentioned in the OP stripping people of their citizenship just because they refused to shake hands is excessively ridiculous and prejudiced. They have a problem with Islam and it's adherents not with minorities. When we speak of Pakistan, well no body is treated well except the elites.

 

[Yeezy]

That is true to an extent but when they see that you are a Muslim you don't even qualify for the minority rights. As mentioned in the OP stripping people of their citizenship just because they refused to shake hands is excessively ridiculous and prejudiced. They have a problem with Islam and it's adherents not with minorities. When we speak of Pakistan, well no body is treated well except the elites.

Last time I checked, Muslims are not being slaughtered in Europe like Ahmadis, Shias or Christians are in Pakistan. You don't have Muslims in Europe being shot to death like minority politicians in Pakistan. Neither is there a stone age like blasphemy law in European countries which is targeted at suppressing minorities. If these hardcore followers of Islam love their religion so much they should live in Saudi Arabia or in Syria. We all know how great Saudi Arabia treats Pakistanis

 

[24 Hours]

That is true to an extent but when they see that you are a Muslim you don't even qualify for the minority rights. As mentioned in the OP stripping people of their citizenship just because they refused to shake hands is excessively ridiculous and prejudiced. They have a problem with Islam and it's adherents not with minorities. When we speak of Pakistan, well no body is treated well except the elites.

They were not stripped of their citizenship, rather their citizenship process (aka naturalization) was halted. If they were stripped of their citizenship, that would mean they were Swiss citizens in the first place.

 

[Zarvan]

Exactly. No need to live in modern Switzerland with such stoneage beliefs.

Yes off course stone age. How dare they avoid those things which led to trouble ? Off course How dare they avoid to shake in those countries which have highest rates of rapes. ? As for Switzerland never expected anything good from that side.

Last time I checked, Muslims are not being slaughtered in Europe like Ahmadis, Shias or Christians are in Pakistan. You don't have Muslims in Europe being shot to death like minority politicians in Pakistan. Neither is there a stone age like blasphemy law in European countries which is targeted at suppressing minorities. If these hardcore followers of Islam love their religion so much they should live in Saudi Arabia or in Syria. We all know how great Saudi Arabia treats Pakistanis

Off course they are not. West just comes to Muslim countries destroys them bombs and kill millions and than thing they are the most civilized people on face of the earth. And some liberal slaves of west also try to sell us this theory. USA since its formation has been involved in some war weather inside or outside of USA. Europe in World War killed Millions. These people and their puppets in Muslim world wants to teach us How to being civilized

 

[Djinn]

Last time I checked, Muslims are not being slaughtered in Europe like Ahmadis, Shias or Christians are in Pakistan. You don't have Muslims in Europe being shot to death like minority politicians in Pakistan. Neither is there a stone age like blasphemy law in European countries which is targeted at suppressing minorities. If these hardcore followers of Islam love their religion so much they should live in Saudi Arabia or in Syria. We all know how great Saudi Arabia treats Pakistanis

Even Sunnis are being slaughtered in Pakistan so what exactly is your point? Shall i post links of Sunni mosques and children being attacked in Pakistan? Like i said in my previous post, Nobody is treated well in Pakistan don't single out minorities to make a flawed point. Pakistan doesn't claim to be a prosperous state like these Europeans do and yet they treat people worse. Its really fascinating when ignorant people talk about blasphemy laws in Pakistan and turn blind eye to Holocaust denial laws in the beloved west, Hypocrisy much? Last time i checked Pakistan never kicked out minorities or foreigners for consuming alcohol, so yeah we are still better.