Suzuki doesn't see any reason why they should discontinue producing the Mehran in Pakistan

[padamchen]

Obvious question.

Why are cheap Chinese cars not flooding the market in Pakistan?

And bikes.

In terms of motoring, be in 4 wheels or 2, you guys are stuck in the 80s and slowly moving to the 90s.

Cheers, Doc

 

[The Diplomat]

Irrelevant to this thread, Sir.

Not really.

Obvious question.

Why are cheap Chinese cars not flooding the market in Pakistan?

And bikes.

In terms of motoring, be in 4 wheels or 2, you guys are stuck in the 80s and slowly moving to the 90s.

Cheers, Doc

Gov does not issue manufacturing licenses to the Chinese or other car companies... They take money from Suzuki, Honda, Toyota not to...

 

[padamchen]

Gov does not issue manufacturing licenses to the Chinese or other car companies... They take money from Suzuki, Honda, Toyota not to...

But I am surprised that the Chinese are letting the status quo continue and not applying their own pressure.

Its what they do.

Cheers, Doc

 

[The Diplomat]

But I am surprised that the Chinese are letting the status quo continue and not applying their own pressure.

Its what they do.

Cheers, Doc

It’s not ot really Chinease Presure, things are changing; for the first time liceances are being issued to Chinese companies, Audi, BMW, Renualt and Nissan (not sure if Nissan is one of them) are about to start local production.

 

[VCheng]

If you have a an uneducated population, it is your moral or professional duty to ask for controls and regulations that addresses those risks. In Pakistan's case it may be as obvious as car safety... in more advanced more complex cases it may have to do with chemicals in an industrial process that you or me are unaware of those hazards. That is why we have regulations, to address those concerns for the benefit for the broader population.

I hope you understand that my argument is the basic cornerstone of most developed nations visa-vis consumer and public protection. Why do you not want the same for Pakistan?

I will quote your own words here:

True for any civilized developed nation... in pakistan we have the law of the jungle.

The basic cornerstone of most developed nations does not apply where the law of the jungle rules.

 

[Sucha Kuggu]

Is Suzuki Mehran is the benchmark of Suzuki to evaluation them-self.

 

[Arsalan]

Even if and when new entrants are available on the market, price will remain an important factor and this is where Mehru has a huge advantage.

The new entrant thing is, despite all the wishes , not a matter of IF but only WHEN. I have worked in Nishat, still meet the lot over there ever two three months or so. I know about progress first hand so again, it is not about IF but WHEN and it will be SOON.
And yes, agreed on price thing. That is something only time can tell but i hope that VW will come up with some good options, may be slightly expensive than Mehran but way ahead in performance.

 

[VCheng]

The new entrant thing is, despite all the wishes , not a matter of IF but only WHEN. I have worked in Nishat, still meet the lot over there ever two three months or so. I know about progress first hand so again, it is not about IF but WHEN and it will be SOON.
And yes, agreed on price thing. That is something only time can tell but i hope that VW will come up with some good options, may be slightly expensive than Mehran but way ahead in performance.

I am sure we will discuss those developments as they actually happen, no rush.

 

[RoadRunner401]

These cars from Suzuki area not safe.

They neither bring quality nor safety on the roads. With the world moving towards electric cars this enslavement of the Pakistani nation by Japanese monopoly should end.

Without investment in the country and local manufacturing these should be sent back with pearl harbor written on it.

chacha jee, Pakistani partners of Japaneses companies are the reasons, no new models are introduced, not the companies themselves.

 

[Clutch]

I will quote your own words here:



The basic cornerstone of most developed nations does not apply where the law of the jungle rules.

Exactly.... Doesn't stop you from asking for change. You don't fix things that aren't broken. So you should advocate for change. Which in this case is, better car regulations and safety standards for the auto industry.

 

[VCheng]

Exactly.... Doesn't stop you from asking for change. You don't fix things that aren't broken. So you should advocate for change. Which in this case is, better car regulations and safety standards for the auto industry.

As long as the existing regulations and safety standards work fine for the buyers who are still buying cars without airbags, then merely asking for a change may not work. Has it occurred to you that many people may prefer a car with no airbags since they can be repaired much cheaper than those with airbags? I hope you know many cars have their bags intentionally disconnected or even removed in Pakistan.

 

[Clutch]

As long as the existing regulations and safety standards work fine for the buyers who are still buying cars without airbags, then merely asking for a change may not work. Has it occurred to you that many people may prefer a car with no airbags since they can be repaired much cheaper than those with airbags? I hope you know many cars have their bags intentionally disconnected or even removed in Pakistan.

We should not live by the standards set by the stupidity of the lowest denominator.

 

[VCheng]

We should not live by the stupidity of the lowest denominator.

True, but one cannot merely legislate stupidity out of existence. Look at USA as an example!

 

[Clutch]

True, but one cannot merely legislate stupidity out of existence. Look at USA as an example!

That's why we have regulations to protect the interests of the general population.

 

[VCheng]

That's why we have regulations to protect the interests of the general population.

I will refer back to your comment about Pakistan having the law of the jungle. Wanting civilized protections in such an environment just will not work, as will demanding consumer protection rights in a highly constrained economic environment such as the one existing in Pakistan.

Such developments must be stepwise and gradual in the same consistent direction to bear fruit over decades. The best way is to open up the market to fair competition, as you have said, but the costs associated with such a bold step are simply beyond the government to bear, as I have pointed out.