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Super Sukhois to give India a generation leap

India is poised to get fifth generation aircraft sooner than expected. While an Indo-Russian programme to develop a fifth generation fighter aircraft is already under way, Russia has agreed to provide India with an advanced version of the Sukhoi-30MKI, which boasts of fifth generation capabilities and stealth features.

The Indian Air Force, which currently has over 100 Sukhoi MKIs, has placed an order with Russia for about 280-300 aircraft, which are likely to come in the form of the Super Sukhois.

This development is expected to provide India a considerable edge over Pakistan. In January 2011, China had agreed to deliver its J-20 fifth generation fighter – touted to be the world’s most advanced fighter aircraft — to Pakistan.

The timeframe of the delivery of the Super Sukhois has not been specified, but India plans to deploy four squadrons of the advanced aircraft in the northeastern sector by 2015.

The Super Sukhoi has come about after India decided to get rid of some of its outdated combat jets and replace them with superior ones. As part of that, India decided to return 18 Sukhoi-30K aircraft to Russia and replace them with the advanced Sukhoi-30MKI, which is being christened as “Super Sukhoi” that boasts of fifth generation features.

The 18 Sukhoi-30Ks were part of the first production batch.
According to a US-based Defense Update report, Russia, the manufacturer of the aircraft, has agreed to replace the aircraft by production versions of the advanced Su-30MKI (the Super Sukhoi), in a ‘buyback’ transaction as the Su-30K were found to have downgraded avionics as compared with the advanced Su-30MKI aircraft.

Further, the aircraft, of which 10 have already been sent back (the remaining eight by November), would be inducted into the Belarusian Air Force.

The Super Sukhoi, apart from having a new cockpit, has upgraded radars and will also be equipped with the BrahMos supersonic cruise missile.

Commenting on the decision to return the older aircraft, Air Commodore (Retd) Jasjit Singh, director, New Delhi-based Centre for Air Power Studies (CAPS), told DNA that India had been asking for the Sukhoi-30K to be replaced for sometime now and that the decision to go in for the upgraded version of the aircraft is a step in the right direction.

“The Sukhoi-30K were manufactured and delivered to India in the mid-1990s and it is an aging aircraft. The IAF may have found it to be cost-effective to send back the aircraft instead of upgrading it on par with the latest model. Besides the upgrades would have taken three-four years, which is not logical with a fleet of aircraft which has already completed half its lifespan,” said Singh.

Super Sukhois to give India a generation leap - India - DNA
 
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Already posted and discussed at length. No engine replacement and so no supercruise. Improved avionics, cockpit and Brahmos. Some RCS reduction maybe. No AESA. Hardly fifth gen but better than Su-30Ks.

then as per American standards not even 4.5

well something better than nothing
 
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nope in the last report here in pdf it said that its gonna get AESA and RCS reduction but supercruise part not sure
 
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shoddy article..... We dont have anymore su 30ks , we only have mki.
And we will get aesa in the upgrade - maybe even an engine replacement
 
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Russia has agreed to provide India with an advanced version of the Sukhoi-30MKI, which boasts of fifth generation capabilities and stealth feature

Hyped up by Indian media , this air craft configuration in Russia is known as Su-35 - it would be a downgraded version of that though and everyone knows its not 5th gen in any sense.
 
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Hyped up by Indian media , this air craft configuration in Russia is known as Su-35 - it would be a downgraded version of that though and everyone knows its not 5th gen in any sense.


SU-35 has diffrent engines on them

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I think AESA is a must for any future upgrade otherwise what is the point?

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Irkut Corp. reported that Russia and India have reached agreement on the technical specification of the Super 30, a new version of the Sukhoi Su-30MK twinjet with an active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar, replacing the older N-011M Bars radar with its passive electronic scanning antenna. Irkut claims that the heavy, twin-seat, multi-role supersonic jet with thrust-vectored engines will be the first exportable Russian fighter with an AESA. It is believed that an enlarged version of the Phazotron Zhuk-AE radar will be fitted to the Super 30.
 
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Stupid as it can get, Why would India upgrade the yet to be manufactured SU-30 MKIs to 5th Gen apart form the current inventory, why not discard and re-order SU-35s instead. By the way SU-35 is not 5th Gen perhaps Russian will keep it to themselves and provide bit by bit over the years not so early not so fast they will not lose the market in a glimpse, hindustan will have to wait a decade to reach the Russian Standards of SU-35.

You see Russians are not stupid, they will take it as a separate deal with SU-35 contact if ever negotiations takes place.
 
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Hyped up by Indian media , this air craft configuration in Russia is known as Su-35 - it would be a downgraded version of that though and everyone knows its not 5th gen in any sense.

Who is everyone ? Did you bother doing any research on your claims ?
 
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Poor piece of Info
>1st of all Su 30mki is already a 4+ class and after upgradation say new engine,new cockpit ,new avonics and some RAM Treatment it'll still can't be called as 5th gen in any sense.Just more ++ would add to its rank say 4+++ gen.Thats all.
>How could some one says J 20 is touted to best 5th gen aircrafts ??And since when they offered this to pakistan(I might be wrong )
 
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:lol::lol:
 
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Poor piece of Info
>1st of all Su 30mki is already a 4+ class and after upgradation say new engine,new cockpit ,new avonics and some RAM Treatment it'll still can't be called as 5th gen in any sense.Just more ++ would add to its rank say 4+++ gen.Thats all.
>How could some one says J 20 is touted to best 5th gen aircrafts ??And since when they offered this to pakistan(I might be wrong )

What sort of new cockpit do you want as per you word of mouth the cockput is already 4+ gen.:lol:
 
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What sort of new cockpit do you want as per you word of mouth the cockput is already 4+ gen.:lol:
I think that he was talking about better UI and more use of Digital systems replacing analog ones on the current MKI's.They might get more monitors like the Navy's MiG 29K or the yet to be upgraded Mirage 2000H/TH,we might also see newer Helmets:)
http://www.defence.pk/forums/military-photos-multimedia/3628-indian-navy-mig-29k-4.html
The photos are old but you'll know what i'm talking about:)
 
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Such an old article that it put India's number of MKIs at just above 100. That's grossly incorrect...
 
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DNA news :disagree: i rather trust what Irkut Corp had to say on the upgrade
 
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