Sunni Ittehad Council warns of anarchy if Aasia pardoned

[GentlemanObserver]

assalam alaikum,

You think about it if a murderer confess he or she is punisthed according to the law, so first we wanna establish did this act happened from him or her or didnot and they were not accused wrongly . I was just pointing that she has committed a crime that is punishable. U also think if somebody wanna goto europe or america he will easily insult the prophet and get away, but if the law is applied may be there won't be any asia or john doing it in future while i think u also think. i m all for law change the law otherwise dont call for justice to any crime coz u r helping the criminals get away. Let the rapists, murderers, chor dakoo get away and stop complaining about the lawlessness. If u have anything to say just goto the parliment and change the law i dont have a problem.

Regards

TARIQ

Tariq but spamming a wall of text it won't help highlight your concern. What law has she broken, some retarded law set up by AK... The prophet (PUBH) does not need earthly laws to protect his name.

 

[CaptainJackSparrow]

the biggest anarchy itself is the sunni itthad council..somebody shut and ban these buggers..or send them on fast trip to their future with 72 virgins!

Also the minorities should mind themselves as resident of an Islamic state they are not supposed to go around insulting the majority sentiments.

Who will and When?

 

[Bang Galore]

A quick question to Indians: Would it not please you that Pakistan follows through and hang Ms. Asiya? I mean, the worse Pakistan looks internationally the more India gains? Call me a cynic but it is hard to escape such thoughts.

Not in the very least. We are not that cold hearted. I was merely pointing out that most here with the exception of Paladin didn't refer to the repeal of the law itself. It also goes along with what a minister said about keeping the law as it is. This is something that you people have to face up to. Do you want to fight each case individually when technically you end up on the wrong side of the law or be more pronounced on the stupidity of the law itself that will continue to bring such events to pass over & over again as long as it remains in vogue.

Btw, Zia has been gone for over 20 years now. Nothing prevents the law from being removed except timidity in the face of opposition from the bigots.

 

[ajpirzada]

Idiotic indeed.......

 

[Capt.Popeye]

The Law was introduced by GENERAL Zia ul Haq during Martial Law and made part of the Constitution by the partially-representative Assemblies and that too after threatening even that Assembly.

Surely, this law would have not passed without the bigot Zia in place. Even Nawaz Sharif--who tried to be an Amir ul Mominoon--could not introduce 'Shariat Bill' because the legislators were far more independent by then.

A quick question to Indians: Would it not please you that Pakistan follows through and hang Ms. Asiya? I mean, the worse Pakistan looks internationally the more India gains? Call me a cynic but it is hard to escape such thoughts.

i can speak only for myself; and try to answer your question.
Of course i hope that Ms Asiya is not hanged, but will only say that much because i don't wish to appear like some "great advisor".
About the second question, i definitely cannot derive any satisfaction in seeing Pakistan's image going down. And i am no saint or altruist.

In my mind there is no reason why Pakistan should not be able to put these issues behind and gain a world image of being a progressing and progressive State. All other perceptions of gains and losses are ephemeral and therefore meaningless.

That is the only answer (as an Indian) that i can give you.

 

[ajtr]

Pakistan's Zardari Barred From Pardoning ​

LAHORE (Reuters) - A Pakistani court Monday barred President Asif Ali Zardari from pardoning a Christian woman sentenced to death on charges of insulting Islam, in a case that has sparked criticism over the country's blasphemy law. Asia Bibi, a 45-year-old mother of four, requested a pardon from the president after a lower court sentenced her to death on Nov 8 in a case stemming from a village dispute. The Lahore High Court barred Zardari from pardoning Bibi in a petition filed by Shahid Iqbal, a Pakistani citizen. Iqbal's lawyer Allah Bux Laghari told Reuters a pardon was illegal as the court was already hearing an appeal against her sentence. We believe it is the court's duty to evaluate the evidence against her, not individuals, and if she is found innocent, she should be freed," he said. Human rights groups have demanded the repeal of the law, which they say discriminates against religious minorities who make up roughly 4 percent of Pakistan's 170 million population. Last week, a government minister said an initial inquiry into the case of the Christian mother said she had not committed blasphemy but was falsely accused after a quarrel.

How can court prevent constitutional head from excercising his right to pardon victim vested in him by the constitution.Is it not that lahore high court crossing its constitutional limits to defy the constitution itself which is as equivalent to committing treason???

 

[akhan62]

the Govt is so weak to repeal or even amend this particular law because it came about during the time of Martial law.

one could try their live out to please these mullas and they would never be happy since they think they have a direct link with god and sadly not with people.

the govt think it could survive this democracy for long while these laws are still around. how sad! democracy prevails only when it reaches out to the cries and needs of its weakest community.

we have to decide very soon what is more important for our survival democracy or theocracy. if both cant compliment each other then one has to be priortised over the other.

it is as simple as that.

 

[Spitfighter]

The Law was introduced by GENERAL Zia ul Haq during Martial Law and made part of the Constitution by the partially-representative Assemblies and that too after threatening even that Assembly.

Surely, this law would have not passed without the bigot Zia in place. Even Nawaz Sharif--who tried to be an Amir ul Mominoon--could not introduce 'Shariat Bill' because the legislators were far more independent by then.

A quick question to Indians: Would it not please you that Pakistan follows through and hang Ms. Asiya? I mean, the worse Pakistan looks internationally the more India gains? Call me a cynic but it is hard to escape such thoughts.

I can't speak for the others, but I can't see how a positive Pakistani image is in our interest. Unfortunate, but true.

Lastly, I doubt anyone in Pakistan will stand up to the religious bigots, its simply too late.

 

[mehru]

I can't speak for the others, but I can't see how a positive Pakistani image is in our interest. Unfortunate, but true.

Lastly, I doubt anyone in Pakistan will stand up to the religious bigots, its simply too late.

I don't think that this law can be repealed right now. Too much opposition. However, certain amendments can be made and some political figures are trying to do that. If they succeed then that will be an achievement.

Sherry submits bill for amending blasphemy laws

ISLAMABAD: Amid announcements by the religious forces in the country to resist any move to change the blasphemy laws, former information minister and Pakistan People’s Party MNA Sherry Rehman has submitted a bill to the National Assembly Secretariat seeking an end to the death penalty under the existing blasphemy laws.

Talking to Dawn here on Monday, Ms Rehman said that she had submitted a private member’s bill as she believed that blasphemy laws as set out in the Pakistan Penal Code (PPC) found their roots in colonial laws and had in their present form become a source of victimisation and persecution of the minorities in the country.

The amendments to the Blasphemy Act, she said, were intended to ensure that all citizens of Pakistan had an equal right to constitutional protection and that miscarriages of justice in the name of blasphemy were avoided at all costs.

“The bill amends both the PPC and the Code of Criminal Procedure, the two main sources of criminal law. The aim is to amend the codes to ensure protection of Pakistan’s minorities and vulnerable citizens, who routinely face judgments and verdicts in the lower courts where mob pressure is often mobilised to obtain a conviction,” she said.

According to Ms Rehman, the definition of the term “blasphemy” is currently vague, yet it carries a mandatory death sentence. Also, she said, there were serious problems with the mechanisms to implement the law. She said her proposed bill would rationalise the punishments prescribed for offences relating to religion provided under Sections 295 and 298 of the PPC.

Sherry submits bill for amending blasphemy laws | Pakistan | DAWN.COM

 

[Durran3]

Sherry Rehman is the only sane political figure in our Janjal Pura..

 

[Ababeel]

I don't know how much study of Islamic law, Quran or Hadith those secularist specially the Pakistanis here on this frum who just talk of repealing the blasphemy law have done. A person who think himself as a muslim thinks twice before speaking anything because some time what he talks can take him towards Kufr and out of Islam/Imaan.
If she is really innocent then she must be released/ pardoned and those who have accused her must be given same punishment if they have used the law for settling there won scores with her.
Already a wave is going around the world specially in the "civilised world" to malign Prophet of Islam (PBUH) and if a real perperators of this crime is left unpunished it will be against Islamic law of Blasphemy as well as will open the way for enemies of Islam to malign the Prophet openly which can creat more chaos and enemity between muslims and non-muslims.
The punishment for blasphemy in most of the major religions is death. It is stated in the Old Testament of the Bible, which is the authority for both the Jews and the Christians:


And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: [Book of Leviticus 24:16]


Moreover, if we read Manusmriti, the Law book of the Hindus, it says:

“If a man born of a lower class intentionally bothers a priest, the king should punish him physically with various forms of corporal and capital punishment that make men shudder.” [Manusmriti 9:248]


Regarding the punishment for blasphemy in Islam, it is mentioned in the Glorious Qur’an:
“The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter;” [Surah Al-Maidah 5:33]. In Islam, a person who has committed blasphemy can either be killed or crucified, or his opposite hands and feet can be cut off, or he can be exiled from that land. On the other hand, in other religions there is no other option except capital punishment. Islam at least has four options of punishment for an act of blasphemy.


In spite of all the negative propaganda in a section of the western media, ironically Islam still happens to be the fastest growing religion, not just in the west but also across the world. The more people try to suppress Islam, the more it will prevail. Allah (swt) will make His Deen (Islam) to prevail over all the other ways of life irrespective of people mocking and ridiculing His messengers. As Allah says in the Glorious Quran:


“Mocked were (many) Messengers before thee; but the scoffers were hemmed in by the thing that they mocked.” [Surah Al-An’aam 6:10].

 

[DaRk WaVe]

^^^^

It is really sad the way religion can cloud judgments :roll eyes:

 

[Developereo]

This is a 'little rock nine' moment for Pakistan.