SU30MKI profile on Overseas Excercises

[karan.1970]

Rebuked by who ?? Indians...!!
The US officer was giving a debrief not performing a stand up show.



Then again no one is claiming it to be the best in the list.
One is a $70 Million heavy duty machine while the other is a $20 Million lightweight purposely built fighter. Two different ball games.

$ 70 million?? where did that come from.. I thought it was more like $40-45 mill

 

[karan.1970]

Don't underestimate the Indo-Russian AWACS killer.

The IAF is more intelligent than all of us on this forum. They sure know what to give away and what not to.


Agreed. So is PAF. Better look up the 65 war, 71 war and the war against Islraelis who got their planes shot down, while PAF didn't lose any. It's force to be reckoned with.


India has AWACS as well, and one of the best in the world. The Phalcon can detect low flying missiles and UAV's which have very little RCS, so detecting a fighter jet with a reduced RCS shoud not be a problem.


Agreed. Hence you just repeated my point. Modern warfare in sub continent would be unlike any other. The days of figher pilot dog-fighting only are long gone. A lot is in the scenario and a lot is at stake.


Combine the AWACS with MKI's long range A2A capability.

Again, PAF would be adding Spada 2000 soon. The reason is to protect the sites when the planes are busy in air. Earlier, Pakistan SAMs were not good enough because PAF thought all aerial threats could be handled by the aircraft. But now as PAF needs to be on offensive to force IAF to cut back, the ground sites would be vulnerable to attack, hence PAF wants better SAMs. Spada can detect and target cruise missiles as well. More tests coming soon.



USA is not going to war with India anytime soon, so lets not dream about that.

The dream would turn into nightmare, so don't even think of it.



cheers mate![/QUOTE]

Thanks for a great insight into the AF battle planning..

 

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Pray tell how exactly should we contribute to an exercise?

USAF is the best air force in the world, i think most of us do not dispute that.
PAF is a highly motivated and experienced air force, a fact well substantiated by its years of operational excellence if i may add.

An exercise is a mutual learning experience.
The F-7 is used by PAF, only makes sense to use it in exercises and learn from its comparative weaknesses and strengths.

Coming back to the topic.
SU-30MKI is a great aircraft and is better than anything we currently operate in PAF, however it is certainly not the best non stealth fighter currently in service in the world.

Even the F-15s of USAF will hold their own against the SU-30s, also the technological superiority of US avionics industry implies that USAF is upgrading its F-15s further with AESA radars, JHMCS etc. and very much plans to retain around 200 of the air superiority F-15Cs till at least 2025.

Thanks for the unbiased second paragraph.

What I'm trying to prove is that Su-30MKI is the best aircraft compared to all the aircrafts we are likely to face in the foreseeable future. In future MKI will also be upgraded with new techs that are developed for PAK-FA, and we will also have a air launched version for Brahmos that would be one of the most lethal non nuclear weapons in the IAF arsenal.

No doubt USAF is the best in the world and we have no intentions to compete with them. We know our place in the world ..we are only trying to secure our interests in the subcontinent.

In the next 2 decades things might be different but that's subject to speculation.