Strongest Conventional Militaries in the Islamic World

[Azadkashmir]

Turks were slave at first then they become the master of war. tuba Turkish baths n captured women. oh the romance of war and spoils.

 

[IndoUS]

If there is to be divide then I would say. Each country has its best, so it is impossible to make one on top of other.

Pakistan: Well trained and experienced army, though sever lack of political muscle.

Iran: Trained army and having the political and military will power, though they lack in technology level.

Turkey: Basically the same thing as Pakistan.

Egypt: No idea what the hell is going on in there with constant protests. Though I would say they seem to be the least likely to go to war.

 

[jandk]

Nice Byzantine and Persian architecture TR1. ^

indian culture are far richer than turkish "culture" which is just borrowed elements from persian and other richer civilizations. where ever the turk went, he was despised and where ever he went, he created nothing but havoc. turks could not create, they only knew how to destroy and plunder. we can see many examples, one of which is armenian genocide.

 

[TR.1]

CAN I SEE SOME INDIAN CIVILIZATION PLEASE NO TURKISH ARCHITECTURE - BABUR EMPIRE ARCHITECTURE

 

[Surenas]

The Taj Mahal was dedicated to Mumtaz Mahal neither constructed nor sanctioned to be constructed by her !

I didn't say that it was. But here a list of Persians who constructed/architected the Taj Mahal:

The Master Architect Lahauri

When the construction of the Taj Mahal commenced, Shah Jahan entrusted the project to a board of architects from under his imperial supervision.

Ustad Ahmad Lahauri was generally considered the main architect of the Taj Mahal, although there were some slight discrepancies with who was the principal architect of the Taj Mahal.

Ustad Ahmad Lahauri has been described as “an architect in the court of Shah Jahan from Lahore” despite being a Persian. The board of architects included Abd ul-Karim Ma'mur Khan and Makramat Khan who also supervised the construction of the Taj Mahal.

Lahauri and the Team

Lahauri had the superiorly skillful hands of a great architect and a remarkable ear to Shah Jahan’s appropriate suggestions for alterations of the design, according to the court chronicler, Lahouri.
Shah Jahan’s role and dedication to the construction is undeniable as he showed immense interest in the construction. Overall, 37 men formed the creative unit, 20,000 workmen, and 200 painters.
Involved in the construction of the Taj Mahal were:

Ustad Isa and Isa Muhammad Effendi (Persia) - had a key role in the architectural design of the complex.
Ismail Afandi aka Ismail Khan(Turkey) – architect of the domes, including main dome.
'Puru' (Persia) —supervising architect
Qazim Khan (Lahore) – gold-caster of the finial.
Bebadal Khan – superintendent of the goldsmith department and poet.
Chrianji Lal (Delhi) – a lapidary, chief sculptor, and mosaicist
Amanat Khan Shirazi (Persia) –master calligrapher; former Abd-ul Haq, then granted the title “Amanat Khan” by Shah Jahan for his “dazzling gvirtuosity”.
Amir Ali (Baluchistan) –chief stone-cutter.
Muhammad Hanif – supervisor of masons.
Mir Abdul Karim and Mukkarimat Khan of Shiraz —finance manager and supervisor of daily production.

Bebadal Khan who built the famous gem-encrusted Peacock Throne with Amir Khusrau’s couplet inscribed which said ‘If there is a paradise on earth, it is here’, also composed a chronogram for the Empress Mumtaz Mahal - ‘MayParadise be the abode of Mumtaz Mahal’. The Peacock Throne originally stood in the Private Audience Hall until it was stolen by Nader Shah in 1738.

http://www.tajmahalfacts.org/demo/architect-of-taj-mahal.html

 

[Armstrong]

If there is to be divide then I would say. Each country has its best, so it is impossible to make one on top of other.

Pakistan: Well trained and experienced army, though sever lack of political muscle.

Iran: Trained army and having the political and military will power, though they lack in technology level.

Turkey: Basically the same thing as Pakistan.

Egypt: No idea what the hell is going on in there with constant protests. Though I would say they seem to be the least likely to go to war.

Hey, we'd be fighting with the power of Mangoes too ! So we're unbeatable unless against a fellow Mango eater !

 

[TR.1]

For TR1:

You fail TR1.

LOL YOU RETARD HAHAH YOUR SO DUMB , MAMELUKS WAS A TURKISH EMPIRE - THEY SERVED THE CALIPHATE MANY TIMES , THEY WERE NEVER SLAVES BUT VERY GOOD SOLDIERS .

 

[Icewolf]

Indian culture is straight up copy of Pakistan s Indus Valley Civilization... India is actually derived from one of our provinces named "Sindh" which comes from the "Sindhu/Indus" river which is in Pakistan

 

[Surenas]

indian culture are far richer than turkish "culture" which is just borrowed elements from persian and other richer civilizations. where ever the turk went, he was despised and where ever he went, he created nothing but havoc. turks could not create, they only knew how to destroy and plunder. we can see many examples, one of which is armenian genocide.

Indian culture is much richer than Turkey's culture. We Persians even culturized the Turks. E.J.W. Gibb:

Attained a very considerable degree of culture, thanks entirely to Persian tutorage. About the middle of the eleventh century they [that is, the Saljuqs] had overrun Persia, when, as so often happened, the Barbarian conquerors adopted the culture of their civilized subjects. Rapidly the Seljuq Turks pushed their conquest westward, ever carrying with them Persian culture...o, when some hundred and fifty years later Sulayman's son [the leader of the Ottomans]... penetrated into Asia Minor, they [the Ottomans] found that although Seljuq Turkish was the everyday speech of the people, Persian was the language of the court, while Persian literature and Persian culture reigned supreme. It is to the Seljuqs with whom they were thus fused, that the Ottomans, strictly so called, owe their literary education; this therefore was of necessity Persian as the Seljuqs knew no other. The Turks were not content with learning from the Persians how to express thought; they went to them to learn what to think and in what way to think. In practical matters, in the affairs of everyday life and in the business of government, they preferred their own ideas; but in the sphere of science and literature they went to school with the Persian, intent not merely on acquiring his method, but on entering into his spirit, thinking his thought and feeling his feelings. And in this school they continued so long as there was a master to teach them; for the step thus taken at the outset developed into a practice; it became the rule with the Turkish poets to look ever Persia-ward for guidance and to follow whatever fashion might prevail there. Thus it comes about that for centuries Ottoman poetry continued to reflect as in a glass the several phases through which that of Persia passed...o the first Ottoman poets, and their successors through many a generation, strove with all their strength to write what is little else than Persian poetry in Turkish words. But such was not consciously their aim; of national feeling in poetry they dreamed not; poetry was to them one and indivisible, the language in which it was written merely an unimportant accident.

 

[TR.1]

TAJ MAHAL TURKISH ARCHITECTURE


Ismail Afandi (a.k.a. Ismail Khan) of the Ottoman Empire — Turkish architect, designer of the main dome.[29]
Ustad Isa (Isa Muhammad Effendi) of Persia — Turkish architect, trained by Koca Mimar Sinan Agha of the Ottoman Empire and frequently credited with a key role in the architectural design.[30][31]
'Puru' from Benarus, Persia — has been mentioned as a supervising architect.[32]
Qazim Khan, a native of Lahore – cast the solid gold finial.
Chiranjilal, a lapidary from Delhi — the chief sculptor and mosaicist.
Amanat Khan from Shiraz, Iran — the chief calligrapher.[33]
Muhammad Hanif — a supervisor of masons.
Mir Abdul Karim and Mukkarimat Khan of Shiraz — handled finances and management of daily production.

 

[Surenas]

LOL YOU RETARD HAHAH YOUR SO DUMB , MAMELUKS WAS A TURKISH EMPIRE - THEY SERVED THE CALIPHATE MANY TIMES , THEY WERE NEVER SLAVES BUT VERY GOOD SOLDIERS .

Turks were slaves in Samanid and Arab empires. That's fact. You don't have to be embarrassed.

TAJ MAHAL TURKISH ARCHITECTURE


Ismail Afandi (a.k.a. Ismail Khan) of the Ottoman Empire — Turkish architect, designer of the main dome.[29]
Ustad Isa (Isa Muhammad Effendi) of Persia — Turkish architect, trained by Koca Mimar Sinan Agha of the Ottoman Empire and frequently credited with a key role in the architectural design.[30][31]
'Puru' from Benarus, Persia — has been mentioned as a supervising architect.[32]
Qazim Khan, a native of Lahore – cast the solid gold finial.
Chiranjilal, a lapidary from Delhi — the chief sculptor and mosaicist.
Amanat Khan from Shiraz, Iran — the chief calligrapher.[33]
Muhammad Hanif — a supervisor of masons.
Mir Abdul Karim and Mukkarimat Khan of Shiraz — handled finances and management of daily production.

Main architect, Lauhari was Persian, and most in that list are Persians as well. It's mostly influenced by PERSIANS. Don't try to hide that by use CAPSIZE.

 

[Armstrong]

I didn't say that it was. But here a list of Persians who constructed/architected the Taj Mahal

Dude the way I see it - The Mughals were neither Turks nor the Persians here were Persians...they got indeginized !

For example you can't compare Amir Khusru with an average Persian of his time nor can you came Aurangzeb with an average Turk of their times because our civilizations evolved in different directions to the point where, baring lineage, none of them had any connection to their ancestral homelands neither culturally nor geographically if linguistically for the Persian language was our lingua fraca of our time & with the Persian Empire on our East going through a fairly tough time...most of the Persian artisans & craftsmen had come to what became the Mughal Empire, settled here & got indiginized.

 

[TR.1]

istanbul heart of TURKISH CIVILIZATION AND PERFECTION , GREAT ARCHITECTURE , ALL AROUND THE WORLD . ONE OF THE GREATEST MOSQUES .


TURKISH ARCHITECTURE - DOMABAHCE PALACE ISTANBUL - INDIANS( SLUMS) AND IRANIANS ( DESERT)

16 great turkish empires - not including some

 

[Azadkashmir]

istanbul heart of TURKISH CIVILIZATION AND PERFECTION , GREAT ARCHITECTURE , ALL AROUND THE WORLD . ONE OF THE GREATEST MOSQUES .


TURKISH ARCHITECTURE - DOMABAHCE PALACE ISTANBUL - INDIANS( SLUMS) AND IRANIANS ( DESERT)

compare the guard to the size of the building.

istanbul heart of TURKISH CIVILIZATION AND PERFECTION , GREAT ARCHITECTURE , ALL AROUND THE WORLD . ONE OF THE GREATEST MOSQUES .


TURKISH ARCHITECTURE - DOMABAHCE PALACE ISTANBUL - INDIANS( SLUMS) AND IRANIANS ( DESERT)

compare the guard to the size of the building.

 

[Surenas]

Dude the way I see it - The Mughals were neither Turks nor the Persians here were Persians...they got indeginized !

For example you can't compare Amir Khusru with an average Persian of his time nor can you came Aurangzeb with an average Turk of their times because our civilizations evolved in different directions to the point where, baring lineage, none of them had any connection to their ancestral homelands neither culturally nor geographically if linguistically for the Persian language was our lingua fraca of our time & with the Persian Empire on our East going through a fairly tough time...most of the Persian artisans & craftsmen had come to what became the Mughal Empire, settled here & got indiginized.

Oh, please, come on. All those men I mentioned were Persians. No need to deny that.