Storming the barricades: Hundreds of migrants smash their way through Hungary's razor-wire border

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Still,you don't get,do you ? Those are criminals,Romanians don't form Romanian ghettos,Romanians don't ask for Romanian laws in foreign countries,Romanians don't segregate and turn against adoptive countries,Romanians don't blow themselves up,etc,etc.Romanians work in Western countries because the lwaw give them that right,not because they riot like monkeys at the borders.They have that right because Romania performed some reforms,signed treaties,etc.

How many muslims are demanding those ? Out of the millions of muslims residing in Europe?
How many Christians have been killed by muslims in EU ? And how many muslims killed by EU?
How many Muslims are "segregation" whatever you are claiming they are?
What laws are muslims demanding and how many European muslims are doing that?
Muslim isn't even a race you fool...
Romania joined EU recently and your ppl were still immigrating to EU in masses before...

Romanian "monkeys" were doing much worse than breaking through barriers to enter countries offering asylum when war came to Romania !

I don't care what you think you can wipe off the map,the geopolitical situation is different,not to mention NATO.If you want to see things from the perspective of a 2-year old,it's your business.Fact is that is that a Pakistani calling Romania piss poor is sheer idiocy as we outclass you in every type of human development,there's nothing to learn from you.You will reach Romanian living standards,i mean current ones in 10 years...maybe.I can only laugh at your statements.-i won't even bother posting charts like HDI,standard of living ,etc,you can shout all you want...there's no comparison.

Because we are a young state... Because we live in a troubled region facing wars etc... Etc .. Yet as a state we have achieved much more compared to lil Romania with its small population ... Feeding off from Europe.


And yet we host the largest refugee population in the world!


Compare our situation to Romania ... You guys are like the Niger of Europe...

Again,Romanians are in the West LEGALLY,not jumping fences,most of those so called refugees want hand outs,welfare,Romanians WORK.

Yes Romanians are legally into organised crime,prostitution,crime and living off welfare benefits in Western Europe ?

Put yourself in their shoes... But than again do tell us why you as a Roma are so butthurt? None of those unfortunate people are going to Romania ?

 

[Penguin]

The data from Pak is only partially right... Millions of unregistered refugees are burma,Somalia,Bangladesh,sniffle East and Afghanistan are living here.... Afghans themselves make around 4 million ... Bangladeshi 2-2.5 mil.. Burmese over .6 million etc etc.

So what. It does not detract in any way from the point in general. Migrants or refugees?

 

[Azadkashmir]

no war no refugees it that simple. democrazy doesnt ok. about sharia law no one is asking for it in uk except anjem choudry which majority of pakistanis view with suspious (mi6 patsy). all this mess is all about usury = economy bankrupcy.
borrow more money to pay back debt how can you get out of that and the money is printed out of thin air, third world gets ripped off petro dollars.

 

[flamer84]

How many muslims are demanding those ? Out of the millions of muslims residing in Europe?
How many Christians have been killed by muslims in EU ? And how many muslims killed by EU?
How many Muslims are "segregation" whatever you are claiming they are?
What laws are muslims demanding and how many European muslims are doing that?
Muslim isn't even a race you fool...
Romania joined EU recently and your ppl were still immigrating to EU in masses before...

Romanian "monkeys" were doing much worse than breaking through barriers to enter countries offering asylum when war came to Romania !



Because we are a young state... Because we live in a troubled region facing wars etc... Etc .. Yet as a state we have achieved much more compared to lil Romania with its small population ... Feeding off from Europe.


And yet we host the largest refugee population in the world!


Compare our situation to Romania ... You guys are like the Niger of Europe...



Yes Romanians are legally into organised crime,prostitution,crime and living off welfare benefits in Western Europe ?

Put yourself in their shoes... But than again do tell us why you as a Roma are so butthurt? None of those unfortunate people are going to Romania ?

Dude stop pulling things out of thin air,i can take every statement of yours to the shredder.Every guy with an internet connection can see the difference between Roma and Romanians.Sry,the gypsies are more ethnically close to you than me,it's just a fact so your insinuations leave me cold.


Fresh state ? Romania was plundered by the USSR starting from 1945 to 1960's ,Everything was just taken,from natural resources to our pre war industry-dismantled piece by piece and shipped abroad.Read about the SOVROM'S,this country was stripped naked,we had to build everything up from 0.We didn't complain we did it ,as best we could,and yet we still are in front 1/3 of nations regarding development.

Niger of Europe ? Have you ever been here ? Or atleast do a little research and see that in Europe Albania,Bosnia,Serbia,Macedonia,Moldova,Belarus,Bulgaria,Montenegro are well below Romania.Or that we are the fastest growing EU country in the last 2 years,well over 3% a year and still growing ?



When did war come to Romania and when were Romanians storming borders ? Show me a link,something !

Romania isn't feeding off Europe,Romania had an industry pre 1990,when you join the EU and join the common market our industry can't compete with the Western one,especially on Western terms ,that's why EU funds are given.Do a little research and see how things work,Westerners gain 10 folds the money they give to Romania as structural funds,their firms are prime beneficiaries of these funds.

You do realise that these so called refugees are housed,fed,in Italy,Greece,Hungary to but they want German.Swedish welfare...they just want hand outs ! And for this they are ILLEGALLY storming borders.

How many muslims are segregating ? Check Marseille,the fringe neighborhoods of Paris,check areas in the UK,check Malmo in Sweden.Yes,many muslims segregate and bring with them their arhaic way of life which is incompatible with Europe.

How many muslims on welfare ? Let's take the Netherlands for example

Netherlands: 50-70% of former Muslim ‘asylum seekers’ live permanently on welfare | Muslim Statistics

 

[Pandora]

Hope EU get over run by migrants and then they will know that their arrogant actions have consequences.

 

[Penguin]

Europe is rich, they need to open their borders and help the refugees.

We're getting 350 in my home town right now.

Hope EU get over run by migrants and then they will know that their arrogant actions have consequences.

If the discussion goes to this (low) level: hope the Afghani refugees in Pakistan NEVER LEAVE. And good luck to you too.

 

[Pandora]

We're getting 350 in my home town right now.


If the discussion goes to this (low) level: hope the Afghani refugees in Pakistan NEVER LEAVE. And good luck to you too.

We are already kicking them out. Btw you people dumped Afghans on us as well and then ran with tail between your legs when going went tough. Every where US and their cronies go it becomes a hell hole for local. Once prospering Nations like Iraq and libya are now wastelands with nut jobs running on streets.

 

[Penguin]

We are already kicking them out. Btw you people dumped Afghans on us as well and then ran with tail between your legs when going went tough. Every where US and their cronies go it becomes a hell hole for local. Once prospering Nations like Iraq and libya are now wastelands with nut jobs running on streets.

'We' didn't dump anything on anyone. And lets not forget ISI medalling and stirring the pot with its own interests in mind.

If you want to addres me, try 'you' rather than 'you people'. Iraq and Lybia and Syria were/are run by respected and rational and reasonable men, who had respect for their people, right?

Afghanistan: You can't attack New York and Washington and NOT expect a reaction. Iraq: yeah well , we all got screwed there. Libya/Syria: typically complaints like yours come from countries without even the means/capability to intervene > had the West done nothing, it would have been criticised for that, letting the Muslims down (remember Bosnia?). Help for the people certainly wasn't forthcoming from e.g. Russia or China.

I'm not going to get draw into some stupid discussion. Suffice to say, you have an opinion, to which you are entitled. That doesn't mean it is factually correct or that someone else can't have a different opinion.

Good day

 

[Declein]

Nah. Half a mil refugees versus 508 million EU inhabitants: we can easily absorb 0,1% influx. Besides, in Hungary at least, there is a big difference between how invidual Hungarians view refugees and how their government elects to treat them, I gather from my local news. Towns in Netherlands are making arrangement to take in refugees, which can vary from tens to several thousand, depending on town size.

The issue isn't that we can't absorb them, the problem is the way this is handled, politically. It's a Brussels (read Berlin) lead circus and they can't get it through their thick skulls that acting like some sort of dictators and "imposing stuff" won't fly forever.Especially when it's something so abysmal STUPID like their doing now. Encouraging unrestricted economical emigration to Europe...really...Putin must be getting drunk with joy everytime someone from Brussels opens their mouth on quotas and the poor migrants, they're dismantling the EU faster than he could ever achieve.

And then you have God knows how many retards coming in dreaming of caliphates and stuff and thinking the year is 800 or something, and they're "conquering" stuff.. You have one on this very topic.

On the bolded part your wrong and your local news are full of sh1t. Which isn't quit a surprise, since Western media is polarized in such away to push this agenda and back the government that it would make our old communist media blush.

Perhaps you should consider that young males is also the demographic most at risk of being pressed into armed service by the various factions of the Syrian conflict.

And the ones that should defend their country and try to restore a semblance of order..

Anyway, I never took you or one of the left rainbow crowd..

 

[Penguin]

And the ones that should defend their country and try to restore a semblance of order.

Anyway, I never took you or one of the left rainbow crowd..

Speaking as a father, if I were 40 to 50-ish and had a couple of sons, I would stand to fight and attempt to keep my boys out of the fight. Wouldn't surprise me. Meanwhile, be carefull using supposed statistics.

United Nations’ figures show women outnumber men, and children 11 years old and younger, male and female, account for 38.5 percent of all refugees.

UNHCR’s data show that 50.5 percent of refugees are women. Females age 18 to 59 make up 23.9 percent of the refugees, while males in that age group make up 21.8 percent. Even younger males — age 12 to 17 — represent 6.5 percent of refugees, while females that age are 6.1 percent. The majority of refugees — 51.1 percent — are under age 17, including 38.5 percent who are younger than 12 years old. These numbers were as of Sept. 6.

... a different set of UNHCR numbers cited on a few conservative websites — figures for refugees and migrants who have tried to enter Europe by crossing the Mediterranean Sea. There have been more than 400,000 such “sea arrivals” in 2015, and 51 percent are Syrian. The rest have come mainly from nine other countries. Most of these refugees and migrants have been men — 72 percent — but these are not figures on Syrian refugees or even solely the 200,000-some Syrians who have been willing to take some type of boat to reach Europe by sea.

Stretching Facts on Syrian Refugees

The issue isn't that we can't absorb them, the problem is the way this is handled, politically. It's a Brussels (read Berlin) lead circus and they can't get it through their thick skulls that acting like some sort of dictators and "imposing stuff" won't fly forever.

What exactly is 'Berlin' imposing on whom? Are you talking about the EUs announced emergency quota system that would spread out the deluge of refugees across the EU member states? That would require 22 of the 28 states to open their doors to a total of 160,000 people, averaging 5714 per country. Romanian President Klaus Iohannis has said Romaina is only willing to take in a total of 1,785 refugees and plans to reject Juncker's proposed allotment of 4,646. Romania's population is just short of 20 million people.
Here Are The European Countries That Want To Refuse Refugees

Total 120,000 refugees. Sweden (population 10 million) would have to take 4469. Belgium (population 11 million) would have to take 4564, and Netherlands (population 17 million) would have to take 7214.
European Commission - PRESS RELEASES - Press release - Refugee Crisis: European Commission takes decisive action - Questions and answers

Here you find a graphic showing which countries already have taken in more than their quota requires them , and countries which have not.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/09/04/world/europe/europe-refugee-distribution.html

On the bolded part your wrong and your local news are full of sh1t. Which isn't quit a surprise, since Western media is polarized in such away to push this agenda and back the government that it would make our old communist media blush.

Footage showed Hungarians bringing items to refugees and then being shood away 'very impolitely' by riot police.
May I remind the Romanian that Romania, while in Eastern Europe, is still in Europe and thereby Western world.
Personally, I wouldn't be so presumptuous to comment on Romanian local news. All I meant to indicate was 'national media' as opposed to the CNN's of the world.

Definitions

Refugee
“A person who owing to a well-founded fear of being persecuted for reasons of race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group or political opinion, is outside the country of his nationality and is unable or, owing to such fear, is unwilling to avail himself of the protection of that country; or who, not having a nationality and being outside the country of his former habitual residence as a result of such events, is unable or, owing to such fear, is unwilling to return to it.”
The 1951 United Nations Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees

In the UK, a person is officially a refugee when they have their claim for asylum accepted by the government.
Asylum Seeker:
A person who has left their country of origin and formally applied for asylum in another country but whose application has not yet been concluded.
Refused asylum seeker
A person whose asylum application has been unsuccessful and who has no other claim for protection awaiting a decision. Some refused asylum seekers voluntarily return home, others are forcibly returned and for some it is not safe or practical for them to return until conditions in their country change.

Economic migrant
Someone who has moved to another country to work. Refugees are not economic migrants.

What is an asylum seeker? - The Truth About Asylum - Refugee Council

 

[Declein]

What exactly is 'Berlin' imposing on whom? Are you talking about the Germany and France. announced emergency quota system

Yes, but replace EU with Germany and France.

That would require 22 of the 28 states to open their doors to a total of 160,000 people, averaging 5714 per country. Romanian President Klaus Iohannis has said Romaina is only willing to take in a total of 1,785 refugees and plans to reject Juncker's proposed allotment of 4,646. Romania's population is just short of 20 million people.
Here Are The European Countries That Want To Refuse Refugees

Total 120,000 refugees. Sweden (population 10 million) would have to take 4469. Belgium (population 11 million) would have to take 4564, and Netherlands (population 17 million) would have to take 7214.
European Commission - PRESS RELEASES - Press release - Refugee Crisis: European Commission takes decisive action - Questions and answers

I'm not sure I see your point. We will take 1785 and not one more.If other countries want to take more, it's their decision.
Also, Mr Juncker would do good to remember that he is addressing sovereign nations and not school children which he can "harshly" criticize.

On the flip side, the EU in it;s current political form is at it's end, especially if Brussels decides on sanctions for the Eastern countries. And it was about time.

Footage showed Hungarians bringing items to refugees and then being shood away 'very impolitely' by riot police.
May I remind the Romanian that Romania, while in Eastern Europe, is still in Europe and thereby Western world.
Personally, I wouldn't be so presumptuous to comment on Romanian local news. All I meant to indicate was 'national media' as opposed to the CNN's of the world.

There are people who do this in Hungary, but I don't see the connection between this and your claim that the population of Hungary might disapprove with it's government policies. From your own link around 94% of Chzecs are opposing this. I'll venture a bet that Hungary isn't far behind.

Ps: "
How will 'secondary movements' be avoided? Will people not just move on to another EU Member State?

When someone is relocated to another EU country, they only have the right to legally reside in that country and cannot move on to another EU country.

If they do, and are apprehended, they will be transferred back to the country of legal residence under the rules of the Dublin Regulation.

No person will be relocated from frontline Member States without first having had their fingerprints taken, meaning a person's country of legal residence can be quickly verified.
"
This people have lost all touch with reality..

 

[Arya Desa]

Karma.

Europe destroyed the ME, Africa, colonized India, and now they are crying about these REFUGEES (they're not migrants they are refugees from the countries these firangis destroyed). It is their obligation to accept all and every persons that want to come to Europe from those aforementioned areas.

 

[Penguin]

I'm not sure I see your point. We will take 1785 and not one more.If other countries want to take more, it's their decision.

Romania
19,042,936 = inhabitants
1,005 = total refugee population present
18948 = natives per refugee.

as compared to e.g.

Serbia
9,850,000
70,707
139

Croatia
4,435,056
2,600
1706

Hungary
10,031,208
5,106
1965

List of countries by refugee population - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia