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Sri Lanka - China's Israel in Indian Ocean

Singapore did a good job! We should understand them.
They were surrounded, If they are not relying on the USA, they may be massacred in 1965.

We can not blame Singapore, that is our fault, we do not have the ability to protect them.

Same situation in the case of Sri Lanka too

Sri Lanka has an enduring, multi-dimensional and deep-rooted relationship with China. The long-standing ties of friendship between the two countries are underpinned by mutual trust and confidence. A close identity of views and mutuality of interest remain the hallmark of bilateral ties.
 
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Of course Singapore has to take care of itself, we're a small island with no natural resources surrounded by Muslim countries that have time and again provoked us in the past. Singapore had to ally itself with the leading superpowers back in the 80's or risk losing independence which we nearly did before...

I think the comparison of Singapore vs Isreal does a great injustice. Singapore is just a small dot in South East Asia who thinks it is the leader of the pack , when it is not . It has a tendacy to 'ride with the wind' , hence ephone labelling Singapore as a modern 'gold digger '.

On paper, it has one of the strongest armed forces around , the relality is that their peopleware is extremely weak . Most of the military personel are poorly trained and not effective .

When I was in Thailand last year , there was an incident in the Thai papers whereby 2 Singapore army personel on military training were injured after a shootout with local Thai farmers , apparently it was friendly fire in a night exercise....what a joke !

While many in the Singapore population are Chinese , , they tend to consider themselves 'a grade higher' than those from China. Consequently China does not have an obligation to protect and defend the state of Singapore .

The relationship between China & Sri Lanka tends to run deeper both economically, and politically .
 
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Of course we do not have an obligation to protect and defend the state of Singapore. China has frequently stated and acted that our military is for protecting our own citizens and our own national interests.

However I think you're being too harsh on Singapore. It's not a nation that's able to fight a global war the way USA, China and Russia can so we cannot put it on those standards. It just needs to be able to manage its relatively small territory. Also, isn't Israel actually smaller than Singapore?
 
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I think the comparison of Singapore vs Isreal does a great injustice. Singapore is just a small dot in South East Asia who thinks it is the leader of the pack , when it is not . It has a tendacy to 'ride with the wind' , hence ephone labelling Singapore as a modern 'gold digger '.

On paper, it has one of the strongest armed forces around , the relality is that their peopleware is extremely weak . Most of the military personel are poorly trained and not effective .

When I was in Thailand last year , there was an incident in the Thai papers whereby 2 Singapore army personel on military training were injured after a shootout with local Thai farmers , apparently it was friendly fire in a night exercise....what a joke !

While many in the Singapore population are Chinese , , they tend to consider themselves 'a grade higher' than those from China. Consequently China does not have an obligation to protect and defend the state of Singapore .

The relationship between China & Sri Lanka tends to run deeper both economically, and politically .

China has a responsibility to protect all Chinese.
How diplomatic relations between SG and China? It does not matter. Whether Singapore likes China, as long as it requests help, China has the responsibility to help it.
We can not to repeat the tragedy of 1998. China gov has not declared war to Indonesia, that is a sin. China should kill all the members of the Suharto family.
 
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To become ally of some nation is not in interest of Srilanka.
Why srilanka wants to ruin its peacefull life?
 
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China has a responsibility to protect all Chinese.
How diplomatic relations between SG and China? It does not matter. Whether Singapore likes China, as long as it requests help, China has the responsibility to help it.
We can not to repeat the tragedy of 1998. China gov has not declared war to Indonesia, that is a bug.

no we don't. we have a duty to protect citizens of the People's Republic of China and its special administrative areas of Hong Kong and Macao. who are you to say we have to protect all chinese ethnic groups? do they want you protecting them? this is what I hate, when 朱棣文 was appointed Energy Secretary by the Obama regime some people said its a great achievement for China. I laughed at their stupidity. What the hell achievement? 不就是一个米国佬升官了吗?与中国有半点关系吗?或许他的肤色与我们一样,但他已经是地地道道的米国人,一个只讲英语的,娶了白人为老婆的米国公民。如果奥巴马命令他对中国发射核武器,他绝对会毫不犹豫滴按下发射键。It's just an American being promoted. What relationship does he have to China? Maybe his skin color is hte same but he's already 100% american. He's an American citizen that speaks English alone and is married to a white woman. He'd nuke China without a thought if Obama ordered him to.

There was no tragedy for China in 1998, only a tragedy for indonesia. Zero citizens of PRC, Hong Kong or Macao were killed.
 
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no we don't. we have a duty to protect citizens of the People's Republic of China and its special administrative areas of Hong Kong and Macao. who are you to say we have to protect all chinese ethnic groups? do they want you protecting them? this is what I hate, when 朱棣文 was appointed Energy Secretary by the Obama regime some people said its a great achievement for China. I laughed at their stupidity. What the hell achievement? 不就是一个米国佬升官了吗?与中国有半点关系吗?或许他的肤色与我们一样,但他已经是地地道道的米国人,一个只讲英语的,娶了白人为老婆的米国公民。如果奥巴马命令他对中国发射核武器,他绝对会毫不犹豫滴按下发射键。It's just an American being promoted. What relationship does he have to China? Maybe his skin color is hte same but he's already 100% american. He's an American citizen that speaks English alone and is married to a white woman. He'd nuke China without a thought if Obama ordered him to.

There was no tragedy for China in 1998, only a tragedy for indonesia. Zero citizens of PRC, Hong Kong or Macao were killed.

Sorry, I cannt agree with u.
I said that, The attitude of overseas Chinese is not important, and our attitude is important.
That is our obligation, not their.
 
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you don't need to agree with me. the government does what it needs to do, just dresses it up with fancy words more.
 
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I think the comparison of Singapore vs Isreal does a great injustice. Singapore is just a small dot in South East Asia who thinks it is the leader of the pack , when it is not . It has a tendacy to 'ride with the wind' , hence ephone labelling Singapore as a modern 'gold digger '.

Please point out where in my sentence did I compare Israel to Singapore, its obviously comparing apples and oranges. And unlike many countries blessed with natural resources (probably like yours) Singapore started as a small trading post overrun with corruption, , Gang clans, migrant coolies, hostile neighbors the list is endless. Considering where we are today we are the leader of the pack in South East Asia, Malaysia comes 2nd in the region and if you want to know the difference wear a nice gold watch walk across the causeway to town called Johor Bahru and the you'll find out.


On paper, it has one of the strongest armed forces around , the relality is that their peopleware is extremely weak . Most of the military personel are poorly trained and not effective .

Unless you have attended the training before how can you comment the quality of it? Besides the force is mainly made of white collared workers who have normal day to day jobs not some gung ho Rambos who run around acting hero. Our government is aware of this and thats why we invest in aircrafts, artillery and other armaments which do not require front line combat. The defense line is mainly to deter any immediate aggressive neighbors in the region and not take on the whole world. Unless thats what you really thought for.

When I was in Thailand last year , there was an incident in the Thai papers whereby 2 Singapore army personel on military training were injured after a shootout with local Thai farmers , apparently it was friendly fire in a night exercise....what a joke !

Wrong, boy you are really a joke. Friendly fire??? During night exercises soldiers are never issues live or blank rounds, the Thai farmer thought he heard intruders and fired a shotgun loaded with pellets and injured two of our soldiers who where navigating thru. It was an accident and you're making it sound like they fired on him or something and botched it up.

While many in the Singapore population are Chinese , , they tend to consider themselves 'a grade higher' than those from China. Consequently China does not have an obligation to protect and defend the state of Singapore .

The relationship between China & Sri Lanka tends to run deeper both economically, and politically .

That was the mentality long before just like how people from HK thought that way before 1997, now if anyone from the Big cities in China came down it would be no different from any Chinese here. I've seen people in Shanghai look down on people from the countryside as well but its human nature, and if you deny that then you're just denying yourself.

To Cross1993 & below_freezing.
Thanks for your well regards Cross but I agree with below_freezing, Singapore is our nation and our responsibility to defend it, the Chinese who decided to move to Asean many decades ago made the decision and understood the consequences. Also unknown to some is that Singapore is a safe heaven to overseas Chinese in the region (Malaysia, Indonesia & Philippines). If anything breaks out in the region Singapore will take care of the Chinese who can make it to her shores hence thats why a lot of them keep their funds in Singapore.
 
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Indian have a habbit of being proud of speaking english, but dont consider the other nations in the same way. Maybe english is very important for you like it makes you uper class in india, but for chinese it is just a foiregn language, nothing else.

India being colonised for well over a few centuries and as a result India is properly the only nation in the world so proud of some one else culture than their own , they even went as far as making english one of their official languages and when they won the bid to host the CWG(which they managed to mess it up big time) the whole nation jumping with joy...lmao
 
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Glad to see Sir lanka joing China's camp.

China unlike the US will provide support with almost no strings attatched. Both military and civilian.
 
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Considering SG consists of mostly Chinese descendants with its culture from China, we should generally expect SG should have a warmer relationship with China, at least after open and reform began.

However, in reality, it is not the case. The relationship is purely rooted in business. SG is just another customer and investor, nothing more.

Worst of all, SG always tends to join the China-bashing pack and is very interested in containing China as well, even though I think it is a joke for SG to even dream about that.

That is why I labelled it as just another gold digger.

If you are familiar with a Chinese idiom called "数典忘祖", you will know what I am talking about.


Of course we do not have an obligation to protect and defend the state of Singapore. China has frequently stated and acted that our military is for protecting our own citizens and our own national interests.

However I think you're being too harsh on Singapore. It's not a nation that's able to fight a global war the way USA, China and Russia can so we cannot put it on those standards. It just needs to be able to manage its relatively small territory. Also, isn't Israel actually smaller than Singapore?
 
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We should separate the nation state of singapore, controlled by the Lee monarchy regime, and the people of Singapore. They cannot control the actions of the Lee monarchy.
 
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We should separate the nation state of singapore, controlled by the Lee monarchy regime, and the people of Singapore. They cannot control the actions of the Lee monarchy.

Singapore is Lee Kuan Yew's baby, his own private corporation/fiefdom. The fact that it is Chinese is encouraging but strategically more or less useless.
 
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no we don't. we have a duty to protect citizens of the People's Republic of China and its special administrative areas of Hong Kong and Macao. who are you to say we have to protect all chinese ethnic groups? do they want you protecting them? this is what I hate, when 朱棣文 was appointed Energy Secretary by the Obama regime some people said its a great achievement for China. I laughed at their stupidity. What the hell achievement? 不就是一个米国佬升官了吗?与中国有半点关系吗?或许他的肤色与我们一样,但他已经是地地道道的米国人,一个只讲英语的,娶了白人为老婆的米国公民。如果奥巴马命令他对中国发射核武器,他绝对会毫不犹豫滴按下发射键。It's just an American being promoted. What relationship does he have to China? Maybe his skin color is hte same but he's already 100% american. He's an American citizen that speaks English alone and is married to a white woman. He'd nuke China without a thought if Obama ordered him to.

There was no tragedy for China in 1998, only a tragedy for indonesia. Zero citizens of PRC, Hong Kong or Macao were killed.


i agree, the government of the people's republic of china is responsible solely for the citizens of the PRC and its SARs. it must protect its citizens when at all possible. those citizens of other countries that are of chinese origins are not the subjects of the PRC hence the government of the peoples republic does not bare responsibility for them, the government they have SWORN ALLEGIANCE to bares that responsibility. however that said if a government/peoples are targeting people of Chinese origins, the government of the PRC should log protest against such actions and strongly condemn it
 
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