Spot-fixing/Match-fixing scandal

[Dark Angel]

Its sad that such talents would not play in world cup pakistans chances are slim after this whole fiasco

 

[Speaker]

We're hearing news that the video was made after the fact (the three no balls).

Can you post some links or videos of this news? If proven to be true, this would be one of the biggest conspiracies in cricket.

 

[notsuperstitious]

Its a common British/Australian mentality when they meet a resistant Pakistani Team they resort to the SIDESHOW gimicks

Why only Pakistani teams? India won a series there last year, why no controversy there? Oh i forget, the world is out to get Pakistan!

I'm not really surprised to see conspiracy theories cropping up already, its now the standard operating procedure for everything inconvenient!

 

[alibaz]

Why only Pakistani teams? India won a series there last year, why no controversy there? Oh i forget, the world is out to get Pakistan!

I'm not really surprised to see conspiracy theories cropping up already, its now the standard operating procedure for everything inconvenient!

They dare not doing it with India since over 80% finances for ICC come from India. If no finances from India, ICC will go bankrupt.

Its not only Pakistan, Lankans also had their share

However in this case I dont like to defend Pakistani players, if they are proved guilty, they should be made example for everyone

 

[Al-zakir]

Can you guys scrape their citizenship? How low theses guy can go? Please do something.

 

[Gentle Typhoon]

Picture says a 1000 words, ECB chairmen Giles Clarke, Says it all really.

 

[alibaz]

Can you guys scrape their citizenship? How low theses guy can go? Please do something.

How can one do that, they can be punished for whatever they did.

 

[Usama86]

There you go.. this story was already touched my Majid bhatti for Jang news paper. This is no contoversy or a plane by NOTW to defame Pakistan. This was on the cards and people with eyes and ears open knew what was coming.

YouTube - aaj kamran khan ke saath 30 aug 2010 - part 1!

 

[Awesome]

Yaar, I've asked a simple question. Was the video shot before or after the actual no balls? Any evidence of stating that it was shot before the no balls?

Anything other than the word of NOTW or the word of the implicated MM?

You guys are talking about "Oh it's written on their faces", this n that. Who cares, legality says the burden of proof is upon the accuser. I'm one of the people who support actual jail time and not just life bans on the guilty, but proper due diligence should be shown against their cases and not lynch justice with pitch forks and flaming torches.

 

[Hyde]

Yaar, I've asked a simple question. Was the video shot before or after the actual no balls? Any evidence of stating that it was shot before the no balls?

Anything other than the word of NOTW or the word of the implicated MM?

You guys are talking about "Oh it's written on their faces", this n that. Who cares, legality says the burden of proof is upon the accuser. I'm one of the people who support actual jail time and not just life bans on the guilty, but proper due diligence should be shown against their cases and not lynch justice with pitch forks and flaming torches.

You're right Asim,
The video itself will have least important when it comes to evidence. It is not sufficient evidence to prove someone as guilty. Luckily the case is in UK where video evidences are usually not regarded as true. My uncle's shop was once robbed in East London and we showed the CCTV footage to the police while the thieves were rubbing-off the shop but they replied saying this is not a sufficient evidence and we are accepting it only as a supportive evidence only that the following peoples shown in the footage are the culprits. The real evidence for us is going to be the finger prints we are taking from here and the relevant evidences collected from here....

The video itself can be regarded as false and could be a conspiracy by anybody. It is not hard to stand any Mr Mazhar Mujeeb and record his interview just after the match has been taken place. This video itself is not going to be the only proof the police is going to rely upon. If that is what they have so far, trust me all the players will be released without any charges.

Problem is, it is so convincing that I am willing to believe them as guilty until proven innocent by the British courts which is looking highly unlikely. I heard they found Cash in one of the players room and that is what is going to kill the whole scenario. It is so disheartening to see our players are amidst yet another match fixing scandal and would believe the newspaper until the court rules out otherwise

 

[compak]

Imran Khan fears for cricket in Pakistan
By Shahid Hashmi (AFP) – 8 hours ago
KARACHI — Pakistan cricket great Imran Khan on Monday said the sport was headed for crisis with the careers of top players in jeopardy over their alleged involvement in a gambling scam.
Seven members of the Pakistan team are facing a police investigation over claims they colluded with a middleman in a the scam during their England tour, in a sting by a British Sunday tabloid.
The scandal has cast a pall over the national sport, which has been dogged by "fixing" allegations since the 1990s as well as charges of ball-tampering.
The News of the World said it paid fixer Mazhar Majeed 150,000 pounds (230,000 dollars) for advance details of three no-balls by bowlers Mohammad Aamer and Mohammad Asif in the fourth and final Test between Pakistan and England.
"I hope that it?s not true," Khan told AFP. "If, God forbid, it turns out to be true then it will be the biggest setback for Pakistan cricket and, probably, end the careers of the two best bowlers in the world," he said.
"To me Aamer is potentially the best young talent in the world and I feel sad for him."
Pakistan's government has launched an investigation into the claims while British detectives have questioned the Pakistani players and released on bail the alleged middleman, 35-year-old bookmaker Majeed.
But the allegations alone have hit morale hard in Pakistan, which is reeling from devastating floods that have affected 17 million Pakistanis over the past month.
"I think demoralisation has reached the point of extreme in the last two days. The general feeling is that it's one thing after another," said Khan, a former captain of Pakistan and swashbuckling all-rounder.
"First we were called a terrorist country because a dictator pulled us into someone else?s war," said cricketer-turned-politician Khan, referring to former leader General Pervez Musharraf and the US-led war in Afghanistan.
"Then there were the floods which have left millions of people homeless... and suddenly this cricket controversy comes up. This has shattered everyone in Pakistan."
Khan said the lack of good role models for the country's youth was a problem, but said he felt sorry for accused captain Salman Butt.
"Butt obviously looked like a bright captain, and if he is ousted then it will create another captaincy crisis for the team," said Khan, following the removal of previous skipper Younis Khan.
The scandal follows an investigation by the International Cricket Council into Pakistan's loss in Sydney earlier this year, when wicket-keeper Kamran Akmal dropped four catches.
"(Fans) will always be in two minds whether a defeat is genuine or not... so this will put players under huge mental pressure," said Khan.

 

[Bang Galore]

We're hearing news that the video was made after the fact (the three no balls). If that's true then this is a sinister plan against our players.

You know, you are going to be hearing a lot of stuff over the next few days. How the Indians having flooded Pakistan are now conspiring to bring a bad name to the clean images of Pakistani players & the like. There will no doubt be plenty of takers for that argument in Pakistan. When have the facts ever stopped a nice conspiracy theory from gaining traction?

It has to be noted that Mazhar Majeed's top gambling clients are all Indian, he's married to an Indian as well.

Must be a RAW conspiracy then with some help from Mossad & the CIA.
If Mazhar Majeed's gambling contacts are all Indians, then it follows that he is serving up some information that is of use to them. I don't think Indian gambling syndicates would be willing to pay huge money for information about no balls the day after the event. For that, a newspaper would suffice, wouldn't it?

I think first things first, someone should prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that the video was made before the fact.

The entire foundation of the allegation is based upon the three no balls. If the video was made after they occurred, then this is a set up.

Others have already made the point about the bail & police custody. I have this to add on the theory that the video was made after the fact: U.K. has one of the toughest libel laws in the world. NOTW would be history if they did anything like that. The fact that they have been doing stings like this for years & are still around would indicate that the management there is not completely out of their heads to make up this story.

 

[Xeeshan]

And i want to raise a question about a super-nut "papeety k munh jaisa urf sania mirza india waly" has gone with the wind. The biggest bokkie of these all, is no where in this whole fiasco.

Before this scandal had unfolded, we use to rate him the dirtiest "juwari" in Pakistani team. Now he like a true professional is nowhere in the scene, but only these inexperienced have been found guilty.

 

[Super Falcon]

Kamran Akmal is sure a fixer with his perfomances and he is have hand behind him of someone very big his perfomances are rubish even a baby boy can take those catches remember his runout in sydney test it was unimagible hope he should be kicked out for ever kamran akmal is a fixer for sure salman butt was a big mistake



Ijaz Butt
Yawar Saeed
Salman Butt
Kamran Akmal
Mohammad Asif
Mohammad amer

should be kicked out

akmal and butt should have been life ban's

still we have big probleums raza rabbani is a probleum it is becoz of him happened yawar saeed has relation ship from him


so take out him from govt as well

yaawar saeed never been made manager again kamran akmal suffered us alot make sure he suffer same as pak cricket did

 

[Hyde]

And i want to raise a question about a super-nut "papeety k munh jaisa urf sania mirza india waly" has gone with the wind. The biggest bokkie of these all, is no where in this whole fiasco.

Before this scandal had unfolded, we use to rate him the dirtiest "juwari" in Pakistani team. Now he like a true professional is nowhere in the scene, but only these inexperienced have been found guilty.

personal clashes or hard feelings aside,
Was there any moment when Shoaib Malik was really trapped in match fixing scandal? He was once accused by unreliable source which later on removed his name and replaced with Kamran Akmal.

Malik could be another Jawari (match-fixer) i ain't defending him, but his track record so far is crystal clear.