Special Court Judge demands Gen Musharraf's dead body to be hanged at D-Chowk for 3 days

[maverick1977]

Judges the mobsters.

 

[Jungibaaz]

A stupid and vicious comment by judges. They’ve managed to undermine their own case.

There was no way Musharraf could wriggle out of this one, he is 100% guilty, but with this kind of comment in the back pages and separate to the judgement, they’ve given Musharraf and his defence a way out of a case they could not win in any court in the world.

Utterly stupid move.

 

[HRK]

 

[YeBeWarned]

A formal investigation on this judge needs to be launched, head by SC and Military courts . Mushrraf might have done few mistakes none of them deserve him to be hanged and Dragged his body on D-Chowks . People like Bhutto , Zardari and Shebaz needs to be hanged cause PPPP is responsible for hundreds of kids died in Thar of hunger, and Shebaz is responsible for killing 10+ PAT workers by shooting them at their Party Office .

 

[Verve]

Kia ap nahi jantay k is mulk m shariat k name p siyasi kaydio ko saray am koray Mar kr un ka or un ki naslo ka tamasha bnaya Gia ?

Kia ap nahi jantay k is mulk m logo ko saray am phansia di gy?

Kia ap nahi jantay k is mulk m zaati yarain nibhanay k ley mulk girvi rkhva Dia GA?

US vkt tehzeeb or insani haqooq ka khiyal na aya kissi ko?

And sir, iam not asking for this treatment. Just giving you an idea of what the judge would have been thinking. Besides I still believe that musharaf was the best administrator Pakistan ever had but we also have to adjust the 2007 emergency + action somewhere somehow as it couldn't be let unchecked in a vacuum.

All these sare-aam stuff happened during Musharaf's era?

Your loyalties are with the legal fraternity but judges actions during trial and this dead body dragging and hanging for 3 days is as much if not more unconstitutional than that emergency which only arrested and replaced judges.

I don't understand how the arrests and replacing higher judiciary is abrogation of Constitution when the parliament was not dussolved and absolutely no change was made in the Government - zilch, nada!

Parliament is supreme, not Judiciary. As per this Constitution, right?

Would firing all corp commanders be an abrogation of the constitution?

Tell me one proper era of judiciary that everyone loved in this country? Buy me a judge has been the case way before my birth!

A stupid and vicious comment by judges. They’ve managed to undermine their own case.

There was no way Musharraf could wriggle out of this one, he is 100% guilty, but with this kind of comment in the back pages and separate to the judgement, they’ve given Musharraf and his defence a way out of a case they could not win in any court in the world.

Utterly stupid move.

I told you that you will guys will be crying afterwards. And it's been only 48 hours.

Had the judges let Gov include others and given defence opportunity to present the case and collect evidence, this would not have happened. Treason charge and most likely a life sentence would have been delivered to all of them.

But now Musharaf will likely get a Presidential Pardon for Judges pissing all over the Constitution in this case.

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

Leftists / Surkhas need to keep this in mind every single day of their life

The Irony is the same Muharraf in his misguided Enlightened Moderation allowed them to roam free and gave them the influence to spew their venom against this state. I have two problems with Mushy him helping US in Afghanistan and giving these lefties free hand.

Mushy could have gotten rid of all the rot in this nation but he chose to be a stupid democrat than a smart dictator.

 

[blain2]

That one paragraph has negated the entire judgement (as questionable as it was in the first place) in the minds of many. There is clearly a very significant personal malice and hatred at play here against the accused. Even bastards like child-molesters (who have killed tens of kids after violating them) don't get such punishments as has been pronounced by this idiot of a judge for Musharraf.

Goes to show the moral compass going off-kilter in a very bad way.

I am 150% with Musharraf and the sentiment shared by the armed forces. Never thought I'd say this, but after seeing the hideous shenanigans of the legal community (the raid on PIC) and the kind of trash that makes it to the higher echelons of our judiciary (as evinced by the actions of this "Justice" Seth), our judiciary is rotten to the core from within.

 

[El Sidd]

That one paragraph has negated the entire judgement (as questionable as it was in the first place) in the minds of many. There is clearly a very significant personal malice and hatred at play here against the accused. Even bastards like child-molesters (who have killed tens of kids after violating them) don't get such punishments as has been pronounced by this idiot of a judge for Musharraf.

Goes to show the moral compass going off-kilter in a very bad way.

I am 150% with Musharraf and the sentiment shared by the armed forces. Never thought I'd say this, but after seeing the hideous shenanigans of the legal community (the raid on PIC) and the kind of trash that makes it to the higher echelons of our judiciary (as evinced by the actions of this "Justice" Seth), our judiciary is rotten to the core from within.

It does not make the verdict void or negates it. It stands to be challenged and may be ratified but the verdict of high treason cannot be returned.

My legal advice to Mr. Musharraf is to claim asylum in UAE till GoP is found guilty of pursuing vindictive political cases against him.

 

[Jaanbaz]

Sure if you wanna hang Musharaf that's great but also hang Zardari, Nawaz Sharif, Shahbaz Sharif, Moulana Diesel and most of the judges too considering they are all greedy little shits, hang most of bureaucrats since most of them are corrupt too. Why stop at one person?

 

[blain2]

It does not make the verdict void or negates it. It stands to be challenged and may be ratified but the verdict of high treason cannot be returned.

My legal advice to Mr. Musharraf is to claim asylum in UAE till GoP is found guilty of pursuing vindictive political cases against him.

That paragraph by itself does not, but it clearly sheds light on the motivations of those sitting in judgement (reminds me of the Bhutto case where guilt HAD to be found). However the case on its merits can be argued and the verdict can be overturned on appeal.

Let's also not forget the words of the dissenting judge who wrote:

“[Counsel] has failed to appreciate that on the date of offence, except ‘abrogate’ and ‘subvert’, no other act of any person was considered as an offense under Article 6 of the Constitution. Only the act of ‘abrogation’ and ‘subversion’ of Constitution was considered as an act of high treason.

“The words ‘suspension’ and ‘abeyance’ were not used in the language of Article 6 of the Constitution until 20.4.2010 when [they] were introduced through the 18th Amendment almost after two and a half years to the date of alleged offence of high treason.”

 

[Asian.Century]

Pakistan should consider why it remains under developed still after 70 years while its military booms massively.

 

[Jungibaaz]

I told you that you will guys will be crying afterwards. And it's been only 48 hours.

Had the judges let Gov include others and given defence opportunity to present the case and collect evidence, this would not have happened. Treason charge and most likely a life sentence would have been delivered to all of them.

But now Musharaf will likely get a Presidential Pardon for Judges pissing all over the Constitution in this case.

What’s changed now is that the army and government have been given a free and effective excuse to challenge or render null the ruling. And no judges did not as you claim piss over the constitution, the opposite is true.

What you and I discussed has not changed one bit. Musharraf is still guilty. And adding those other people was going to be Musharraf’s defence’s plan. But it would not have worked on it’s own, judiciary already dismissed the desperate attempts to prolong Musharraf’s case by adding other people. It didn’t work then when the courts decided to proceed on Musharraf alone and it probably would not have worked now.

The other argument about absentia is also completely invalid as Musharraf was given every opportunity to return for trial. He was even offered to have a judges fly out of Pakistan to where he is being treated to have the trial, he also offered the opportunity to appear via video streaming. He refused all because it would prolong his case which he knew he’d lose.

In any normal country with proper institutions, Musharraf’s case would have been done in short order and guilty verdict rendered. Even now with this one off stupid comment in the footnotes that undermines the credibility of the judges, in any other court on earth, he’d still be guilty. But in Pakistan, the combo of an army unwilling to abide by laws, defending one of its own, and a government happily helping the former in abetting the latter.

Musharraf should not be able to weasel his way out of this. And army + govt would have tried their best to undermine the verdict anyway. What’s changed now is that they’ve been given a freebie to take a good shot at the credibility of the judges. And any future course of justice they can prevent or bog down by applying pressure.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Pass the same punishment on Nawaz, Shahbaz, Zardari, Pashteen, Altaf, Fazlu too. I will be your biggest fan.

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

. Even now with this one off stupid comment in the footnotes that undermines the credibility of the judges,

You are clearly downplaying those lines by calling it 'one off'. First of all those were not footnotes infact legitimate part of detailed verdict where even implementation mode of process defined against the accused in case of his early death by one judge. Footnotes are a bit of clarification by any judge or 'itekhlafi notes'. That paragraph and the paragraph above 66, effectively made entire verdict very controversial especially the judgement of judge waqar Seth.

Yes also in any normal country, such judgements are also thrown out of the box immediately where a corpse is ordered to be paraded for three days. A retrial is more likely to happen now.

 

[Thorough Pro]

Sure, now in this day and age we have to do what barbarian societies used to do in medieval ages. If that is the case, then why bother to do the drama of trials and not just punish the opponent as the ruler wants?

Show us such a punishment awarded by a court in recent history in the civilized world.
Pakistan's constitution itself guarantees respect and honour of a dead body. Awarding such a punishment itself is an illegal act and gross violation of the same constitution under which this biased and retarded so-called judge is awarding punishment.

I am 99% sure paragraph 66 was written by none other than Nawaz Shareef himself.

Hanging the dead-body of one's biggest adversary has been a practice of showing the "dominance" over one's fallen evil foe in pakistan and probably in other countries too throughout the history, whether it was a good or bad practice is an intellectual debate. So I don't think this judge is suggesting something that has never happened before in the history.