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South Korean, Chinese students face off over Hong Kong protests in Korea

Hayoung Choi, Hyonhee Shin
NOVEMBER 15, 2019 / 7:15 PM /

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SEOUL (Reuters) - Kim Ji-mun, a 23-year-old South Korean university student, had just put up a banner on campus with his friends in support of Hong Kong’s pro-democracy protests when a group of Chinese students tried to take it down.

The encounter at Hanyang University in Seoul led to a seven-hour confrontation, he said, with the Koreans trying to protect their hand-written poster bearing the message “We join the democracy movement in Hong Kong”, and the other side jeering, throwing things and chanting “One China”.

“They come in groups, cursing and saying they would kill us. They took photos of the students who support Hong Kong and shared them on social media,” Kim told Reuters.

Kim said the Chinese students mocked the South Koreans in the Wednesday altercation, suggesting they had been paid to back Hong Kong, and making that point by throwing coins at them.

Hong Kong has been rocked by five months of protests by big crowds, with young people at the forefront, angered by what they see as Beijing’s stifling of freedoms despite a “one country, two systems” promise of autonomy when the city returned to Chinese rule in 1997.

China rejects the suggestion it is interfering in Hong Kong, and blames Western countries for inciting the trouble.

South Korea has its own painful history of student-led, pro-democracy protests, in particular a l980 uprising crushed by troops.

“South Korea received support from foreign countries when we fought for democracy. I couldn’t remain silent as I also share the belief in the value of democracy,” said another student, Kang Min-seo, 24.

Reuters could not track down contact information for the Chinese students involved in the Wednesday confrontation, or in several similar incidents that have taken place at South Korean universities.

Hong Kong’s protests have stirred similar confrontations in various places around the world in recent weeks, usually involving patriotic Chinese students.

‘BROTHERS’
China’s embassy in South Korea said it regretted “emotional conflicts” between the students but it was “natural and sensible” for Chinese students to display anger towards efforts to hurt their country’s sovereignty and distort facts.

A coalition of students supporting the Hong Kong protests criticized the embassy, saying it facilitated the Chinese students’ attempts to undermine democracy, and called for a protest next week to raise awareness of the issue.

“I have a room-mate from mainland China and we don’t talk about politics because we’d argue,” said Huang Shun Yi, a Taiwanese student at Hanyang University.

“But for me, Hong Kong and Taiwan are like brothers, and I want to help.”

At Seoul National University, students have created their own “Lennon Walls” - mosaics of Post-it notes named after the John Lennon Wall in communist-controlled Prague in the 1980s - which have appeared in Hong Kong.

Most notes called for support for Hong Kong’s freedom but some were not so enthusiastic. “Hong Kong is part of China,” one read.

Kim Dong-yoon, 23, a student at Korea University said Hong Kong’s protesters needed international support.

“We young people might seem uninterested in politics but we have pride in the principles of democracy,” Kim said.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ace-off-over-hong-kong-protests-idUSKBN1XP162
 
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Foreigners getting involved like this is the worst thing they can do...
 
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Just a bunch of hot headed college students, older adults are more sensible than this.
 
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“But for me, Hong Kong and Taiwan are like brothers, and I want to help.”
That reminds me some Muslims blindly supported Muslims in other countries for religion reasons. Now I can see the democracy has gradually become a religion. Pro democracy scums do all bad things in the name of belief. US is the Vatican of this cult
 
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That reminds me some Muslims blindly supported Muslims in other countries for religion reasons. Now I can see the democracy has gradually become a religion. Pro democracy scums do all bad things in the name of belief. US is the Vatican of this cult

Your comment remained me of Birds that are born in a cage think that freedom is a crime.
 
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Your comment remained me of Birds that are born in a cage think that freedom is a crime.
You comment exactly proved what I said about the religious way of thinking. You guys believe those who don't have same kind of ideology with you are living in dark.

We believe our ideology has merits and demerits. Others have merits and demerits too. We don't believe our ideology is superior to others. There is no an ideology that is suitable for all people from different cultural backgrounds. It's okay to keep your ideology as long as you don't make trouble to others.
 
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You comment exactly proved what I said about the religious way of thinking. You guys believe those who don't have same kind of ideology with you are living in dark.

We believe our ideology has merits and demerits. Others have merits and demerits too. We don't believe our ideology is superior to others. There is no an ideology that is suitable for all people from different cultural backgrounds. It's okay to keep your ideology as long as you don't make trouble to others.
Your interpretation of my comment reflects your insecurity and complexity.

If you read my comment or signature with the intention to understand it, you would not have said that we believe everyone else is wrong.
Democracy has its own fault but people live in democratic country can enjoy freedom, equal rights and justice.
 
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Your interpretation of my comment reflects your insecurity and complexity.

If you read my comment or signature with the intention to understand it, you would not have said that we believe everyone else is wrong.
Democracy has its own fault but people live in democratic country can enjoy freedom, equal rights and justice.
Another feature of religious way of thinking is overconfidence. Person from messy Bangladesh teaches what China should do.
 
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Your interpretation of my comment reflects your insecurity and complexity.

If you read my comment or signature with the intention to understand it, you would not have said that we believe everyone else is wrong.
Democracy has its own fault but people live in democratic country can enjoy freedom, equal rights and justice.
Problem is who own the definition of democracy? I disagree the western system is democracy, or alike system is democracy.

To me and many Chinese, democracy definition is "Government of the people, by the people, for the people"

Democracy is by far the most challenging form of government - both for politicians and for the people.

I personally think Western Political system is one of the worst form of so called Democracy, they are more like "Tyranny of the Majority"

That reminds me some Muslims blindly supported Muslims in other countries for religion reasons. Now I can see the democracy has gradually become a religion. Pro democracy scums do all bad things in the name of belief. US is the Vatican of this cult
Can NOT agree more. I believe it's religion for years.

CIA are the priests
NED(NATIONAL ENDOWMENT FOR DEMOCRACY) is the church fund
American Military Force is the Crusades
Montesquieu, Joseph Schumpeter, Robert Alan Dahl and Giovanni Sartori are prophets
Arab Spring is preach.
 
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Now I can see the democracy has gradually become a religion. Pro democracy scums do all bad things in the name of belief. US is the Vatican of this cult
Exactly, and the west is hard selling it everywhere and through it they can control people's mind in those places.

Your comment remained me of Birds that are born in a cage think that freedom is a crime.
150 million Chinese travel overseas, the number is almost like your whole population, China also has the largest number of students studying abroad, it's you guys knowing nothing about what's going on in today's world.
 
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The Chinese student shall support North Korea to spite those SK student to shut their mouth.
Who knows who is behind those students. Don't escalate, those students may just be tools and backed by South Korea right wings, and US.
 
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Problem is who own the definition of democracy? I disagree the western system is democracy, or alike system is democracy.

To me and many Chinese, democracy definition is "Government of the people, by the people, for the people"

Democracy is by far the most challenging form of government - both for politicians and for the people.

I personally think Western Political system is one of the worst form of so called Democracy, they are more like "Tyranny of the Majority"
Obviously western democratic system isn't perfect but I still believe their system is better than what communist regimes are practicing today.
You have different view on the matter which I can respect. We don't have to hate each other to disagree on something.

CIA are the priests
NED(NATIONAL ENDOWMENT FOR DEMOCRACY) is the church fund
American Military Force is the Crusades
Montesquieu, Joseph Schumpeter, Robert Alan Dahl and Giovanni Sartori are prophets
Arab Spring is preach.
I don't think they are on Crusade, at least its not the main reason anymore. Its all about self-interest which is OIL. Donald Trump don't hide things like the other cleaver people of US, he stated about it a few days ago.
150 million Chinese travel overseas, the number is almost like your whole population, China also has the largest number of students studying abroad, it's you guys knowing nothing about what's going on in today's world.
That's where you are wrong sir. There are enough uncomfortable news about Chinese tourists on the internet. There was a incident in Bangladesh where police caught two Chinese tourists strangled pet dogs and prepared it for barbecue after skinning. China is a friendly nation so police didn't press any charge, keep the news low and handed them to Chinese embassy.
I can share many similar incidents but China is friendly country, I choose not to do that.
 
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