South Korea & China worry over North Korea's nuclear program

[casual]

I think China for now wants maintain a stable status quo. That means no unification, and no crazy antics by either side.

I still don't think that the US and SK government has proven conclusively the Cheonen was sunk by a NK sub.

no. if the status quo is maintained, NK will just get more nukes and that's very bad for china.

 

[cross1993]

If NK to acquire nuclear weapons, we should support SK to destroy it.
We can not trust NK.

 

[CardSharp]

If NK to acquire nuclear weapons, we should support SK to destroy it.
We can not trust NK.

And we trust the SKs why?

 

[below_freezing]

no. if the status quo is maintained, NK will just get more nukes and that's very bad for china.

Why is it bad for China? With 1 nuke you're a terrorist rogue state but with 100 you're a responsible shareholder in the world order (ISRAEL). NK hasn't opened its economy before precisely because it doesn't have nukes.

 

[cross1993]

And we trust the SKs why?

Because SK has no nuclear weapons.

 

[no_name]

Why is it bad for China? With 1 nuke you're a terrorist rogue state but with 100 you're a responsible shareholder in the world order (ISRAEL). NK hasn't opened its economy before precisely because it doesn't have nukes.

That logic is a bit loose. So if a bank robber has 100 guns instead of 1 he suddenly is 'responsible' and should be respected?
Nah man it still depends on what type pf person you are dealing with.

 

[casual]

Why is it bad for China? With 1 nuke you're a terrorist rogue state but with 100 you're a responsible shareholder in the world order (ISRAEL). NK hasn't opened its economy before precisely because it doesn't have nukes.

and why the hell does china want a "israel" next door?

gota drop them before they get 100 nukes

 

[below_freezing]

and why the hell does china want a "israel" next door?

gota drop them before they get 100 nukes

Because the arabs are loose. There are many non-nuclear ways to control a country. Kim doesn't dare actually use his nukes. He is an atheist. He knows that when you die, you rot in the ground and that's it, so he won't commit suicide. Religious fundamentalists in the Middle East or those that don't actually die in a nuclear war, like the Wall Street regime, are more likely to start a nuclear war than North Korea.

 

[no_name]

Off topic but I don't really believe that when you die thats it.

 

[CardSharp]

Off topic but I don't really believe that when you die thats it.

A lot of atheist do though. The idea of a big fuzzy wozzy beyond is kind of illogical, however much we'd like there to be one.

 

[below_freezing]

Off topic but I don't really believe that when you die thats it.

Ok. People remember you and the government keeps your name in a book somewhere. How's that?

 

[no_name]

Death and what lies beyond is something that cannot be made conclusion on until you personally experience it.
To say there is nothing after death is just as dogmatic as saying there is something.

People should have a healthy dose of fear for the unknown.

 

[cross1993]

For an atheist. My life will be doomed to end, so I need a glorious way to end.

 

[no_name]

For an atheist. My life will be doomed to end, so I need a glorious way to end.

Hopefully you will not do this at the expense of others.

 

[below_freezing]

Death and what lies beyond is something that cannot be made conclusion on until you personally experience it.
To say there is nothing after death is just as dogmatic as saying there is something.

People should have a healthy dose of fear for the unknown.

Yes, I love this world, so I'm scared of dying and leaving it. One thing's for sure about death: you aren't staying here.

I suspect Kim, as an atheist, is the same way.