South Indian dream yet to be realized

[Rajnikanth]

There were two polarizing figure who've defined the modern history of south Asia: Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi and Muhammad Ali Jinnah

Gandhi I respect. The man was a symbol for independence movement(celebrity) but his socialist principals wasn’t a true reflection of Indian society or culture.

Jinnah I Admire. He was an educated top British barrister of his time, due to his relentless persistence the Muslim's of India were able to obtain self-determination.

What Indians especially south Indian fail to realize, is the fact that Gandhi was pacifist and his idealistic aims we’re in complete contradiction to Northern Hindu Capitalism and culture of social and ethnic discrimination ingrained in their religion for thousands of years. (Akin to Nazis placing a token socialist leader to show their good guys.)
If there wasn’t one single entity (India), all of us south Asians would of been better off.. like the Europeans, maybe a general alliance but separate states so we would have control over our destiny and local natural resources, and spending for social programs. In addition to the amount of funds we put into state coffers disposal would be reimbursed equally.

Furthermore the amounts of taxes and funds (forex from workers and other..) agriculture, minerals deposits, oil, coal, industry, call centers , and other resources generate the driving force behind India’s economy should be within south Indian possession so we can benefit from it. (its our resources and blood and sweat) and there wouldn’t be any disparity due to our ethnicity rather we would be treated as equals and northerners would work for us..

The British placed the rule of the minority, such as in Ceylon, Nepal, Andhra Pradesh, Tamil Nadu, and etc.. to terminate authenticate deep-rooted systems into ethnic nepotism which to this day is a standard practice of our region...

If the British hadn’t conceded major powers to northern Aryan Hindu congress the outcome would of been equitable to all the parties including Telugus, Tamils, Kannadigas, Malayalis, Tuluvas and etc.......


During independence natural course should of been allowed to take place:

Conflicts would of occurred across all parts of the region, however the outcome would of resulted in fair equal division of the land and resources and among the various communities (less long term suffering). Bear in mind if world war I or II hypothetical hadn't taken place the continent of Europe would be poorer than Africa due to its sheer population both these wars were intended to reduce population.

As for Western Asian's and eastern Bengal, if they’d stayed within the union, they'd bowing with us...

In conclusion south Indians need be to awaken and realize the circumstance besieging our future, before it’s too late!!....

 

[Gin ka Pakistan]

Muhammad Ali Jinnah was in Indian Congress in the start till Hindus opposed division of Bengal which was supported by all the Muslim leaders in Indian Congress , after seeing true face of Hindus they all left and joined Muslim League.

 

[Rajnikanth]

how is my post trollish, i'm speaking the facts and airing out my opinion on the subject isn't what this whole community is about?

there is nothing offensive in my post or violation of any rules or conditions

 

[Rajnikanth]

It's important people know the true history not the false coerces ion taught in schools and as well now the internet media has started to be manipulated by national intelligence agencies (it's called cyber warfare )

 

[TaimiKhan]

Next time if you re-posted a thread which is closed once, you won't be allowed to post again on the forum.

The words you had used for Muhammad Ali Jinnah in your first thread are well known and you should be thankful to be still on the forum.

And no need to get Pakistan's founder in this discussion as he has nothing to do with South Indian dream.

Plus don't see what is the logic behind your post ? It has no meaning in it to be left posted.

 

[Hulk]

Furthermore the amounts of taxes and funds (forex from workers and other..) agriculture, minerals deposits, oil, coal, industry, call centers , and other resources generate the driving force behind India’s economy. It should be within south Indian possession so we can benefit from it. (its our resources and blood and sweat) and there wouldn’t be any disparity due to our ethnicity rather we would be treated as equals and northerners would work for us..

Care to explain, what you mean by above. I feel you are trying to create south/north divide. Dude you think that we would have been better with smaller states and corporation. Wake up, we were like that before British came, what did we achieved back then, were we friends. We are have strong regional feeling to the core, if we were separate, we would have been most likely fighting with each others for sure. Do not try to compare yourself to Europe, we are not like them.

India extracts benefits from the world(US, EU etc) because of its size, if it were states we would have just saying "yes sir what can I do for you sir kind off".

 

[RPK]

there nothing called south indian dream. south indian all about illusion made by politician to fulfill there own dreams. tilldate nothing is gained in that!

 

[EyelessInGaza]

I will use only part of your post to highlight the inaccuracy of your analysis. Which is....

............... Bear in mind if world war I or II hypothetical hadn't taken place the continent of Europe would be poorer than Africa due to its sheer population both these wars were intended to reduce population...

Oh. My. Lord.

 

[Roby]

What Indians especially south Indian fail to realize, is the fact that Gandhi was pacifist and his idealistic aims we’re in complete contradiction to Northern Hindu Capitalism and culture of social and ethnic discrimination ingrained in their religion for thousands of years. (Akin to Nazis placing a token socialist leader to show their good guys.)
If there wasn’t one single entity (India), all of us south Asians would of been better off.. like the Europeans, maybe a general alliance but separate states so we would have control over our destiny and local natural resources, and spending for social programs. In addition to the amount of funds we put into state coffers disposal would be reimbursed equally.

Furthermore the amounts of taxes and funds (forex from workers and other..) agriculture, minerals deposits, oil, coal, industry, call centers , and other resources generate the driving force behind India’s economy should be within south Indian possession so we can benefit from it. (its our resources and blood and sweat) and there wouldn’t be any disparity due to our ethnicity rather we would be treated as equals and northerners would work for us..

The British placed the rule of the minority, such as in Ceylon, Nepal, Andhra Pradesh, Tamil Nadu, and etc.. to terminate authenticate deep-rooted systems into ethnic nepotism which to this day is a standard practice of our region...

If the British hadn’t conceded major powers to northern Aryan Hindu congress the outcome would of been equitable to all the parties including Telugus, Tamils, Kannadigas, Malayalis, Tuluvas and etc.......


During independence natural course should of been allowed to take place:

Conflicts would of occurred across all parts of the region, however the outcome would of resulted in fair equal division of the land and resources and among the various communities (less long term suffering). Bear in mind if world war I or II hypothetical hadn't taken place the continent of Europe would be poorer than Africa due to its sheer population both these wars were intended to reduce population.

As for Western Asian's and eastern Bengal, if they’d stayed within the union, they'd bowing with us...

In conclusion south Indians need be to awaken and realize the circumstance besieging our future, before it’s too late!!....

Buddy I am a south Indian.This is an unnecessary post I would say, at least not belongs to this forum

 

[Nazru]

There were two polarizing figure who've defined the modern history of south Asia: Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi and Muhammad Ali Jinnah

Gandhi I respect. The man was a symbol for independence movement(celebrity) but his socialist principals wasn’t a true reflection of Indian society or culture.

Jinnah I Admire. He was an educated top British barrister of his time, due to his relentless persistence the Muslim's of India were able to obtain self-determination.

What Indians especially south Indian fail to realize, is the fact that Gandhi was pacifist and his idealistic aims we’re in complete contradiction to Northern Hindu Capitalism and culture of social and ethnic discrimination ingrained in their religion for thousands of years. (Akin to Nazis placing a token socialist leader to show their good guys.)
If there wasn’t one single entity (India), all of us south Asians would of been better off.. like the Europeans, maybe a general alliance but separate states so we would have control over our destiny and local natural resources, and spending for social programs. In addition to the amount of funds we put into state coffers disposal would be reimbursed equally.

Furthermore the amounts of taxes and funds (forex from workers and other..) agriculture, minerals deposits, oil, coal, industry, call centers , and other resources generate the driving force behind India’s economy should be within south Indian possession so we can benefit from it. (its our resources and blood and sweat) and there wouldn’t be any disparity due to our ethnicity rather we would be treated as equals and northerners would work for us..

The British placed the rule of the minority, such as in Ceylon, Nepal, Andhra Pradesh, Tamil Nadu, and etc.. to terminate authenticate deep-rooted systems into ethnic nepotism which to this day is a standard practice of our region...

If the British hadn’t conceded major powers to northern Aryan Hindu congress the outcome would of been equitable to all the parties including Telugus, Tamils, Kannadigas, Malayalis, Tuluvas and etc.......


During independence natural course should of been allowed to take place:

Conflicts would of occurred across all parts of the region, however the outcome would of resulted in fair equal division of the land and resources and among the various communities (less long term suffering). Bear in mind if world war I or II hypothetical hadn't taken place the continent of Europe would be poorer than Africa due to its sheer population both these wars were intended to reduce population.

As for Western Asian's and eastern Bengal, if they’d stayed within the union, they'd bowing with us...

In conclusion south Indians need be to awaken and realize the circumstance besieging our future, before it’s too late!!....

Dude, any logic for what you say? And first what does this have to do in pakistan defence forum??
I am native of a city which is deep south of Chennai, the city of Hazrat Nathervali.

And the only reason india survived, grew and it is possible to even have an economy for you to talk about inequal distribution is because of it staying together. If not for an united india, each and every state would have been pawns in cold war and would have been colonized within five years of independence.
Historically,the times when whole or most of india was a single political entity was when growth and development happened [maurya, gupta, akbar, british], and the times when multiple political states existed was the times of turmoil and tragedy.

As much as Nehru is despised for taking Kashmir to UN, talking Panchsheel to China and getting beaten, his key contributions to integration, land reforms, abolishing feudal setup, creating public sectors and most importantly NAM are the reasons why india is what it is today. After 250 years of independence and democracy US is still talking about becoming a more perfect union and you cannot expect that in a 60 year multi-cultural set up.

 

[zombie]

Utter Nonsense. This guy is more likely a Pakistani troll. Let the mods confirm.

 

[Red Dwarf]

Next time if you re-posted a thread which is closed once, you won't be allowed to post again on the forum.

The words you had used for Muhammad Ali Jinnah in your first thread are well known and you should be thankful to be still on the forum.

And no need to get Pakistan's founder in this discussion as he has nothing to do with South Indian dream.

Plus don't see what is the logic behind your post ? It has no meaning in it to be left posted.

I can understand why your blood is boiling. Thats because he is your father of the nation. So what should we do when others call our father of the nation, racist and fascist. That thread about him is still growing and still nobody to care.

 

[UchihaCG]

There were two polarizing figure who've defined the modern history of south Asia: Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi and Muhammad Ali Jinnah

Gandhi I respect. The man was a symbol for independence movement(celebrity) but his socialist principals wasn’t a true reflection of Indian society or culture.

Jinnah I Admire. He was an educated top British barrister of his time, due to his relentless persistence the Muslim's of India were able to obtain self-determination.

What Indians especially south Indian fail to realize, is the fact that Gandhi was pacifist and his idealistic aims we’re in complete contradiction to Northern Hindu Capitalism and culture of social and ethnic discrimination ingrained in their religion for thousands of years. (Akin to Nazis placing a token socialist leader to show their good guys.)
If there wasn’t one single entity (India), all of us south Asians would of been better off.. like the Europeans, maybe a general alliance but separate states so we would have control over our destiny and local natural resources, and spending for social programs. In addition to the amount of funds we put into state coffers disposal would be reimbursed equally.

Furthermore the amounts of taxes and funds (forex from workers and other..) agriculture, minerals deposits, oil, coal, industry, call centers , and other resources generate the driving force behind India’s economy should be within south Indian possession so we can benefit from it. (its our resources and blood and sweat) and there wouldn’t be any disparity due to our ethnicity rather we would be treated as equals and northerners would work for us..

The British placed the rule of the minority, such as in Ceylon, Nepal, Andhra Pradesh, Tamil Nadu, and etc.. to terminate authenticate deep-rooted systems into ethnic nepotism which to this day is a standard practice of our region...

If the British hadn’t conceded major powers to northern Aryan Hindu congress the outcome would of been equitable to all the parties including Telugus, Tamils, Kannadigas, Malayalis, Tuluvas and etc.......


During independence natural course should of been allowed to take place:

Conflicts would of occurred across all parts of the region, however the outcome would of resulted in fair equal division of the land and resources and among the various communities (less long term suffering). Bear in mind if world war I or II hypothetical hadn't taken place the continent of Europe would be poorer than Africa due to its sheer population both these wars were intended to reduce population.

As for Western Asian's and eastern Bengal, if they’d stayed within the union, they'd bowing with us...

In conclusion south Indians need be to awaken and realize the circumstance besieging our future, before it’s too late!!....

What are you, trying to start a revolution?
Pakistan troll Take that India flag off bro if you don't support "India" as a whole.

I can understand why your blood is boiling. Thats because he is your father of nation. So what should we should when others call our father of the nation, racist and fascist. That thread about him is still growing and still nobody to care.

brother, just keep in mind that we're in a Pakistani forum.... best to shut our mouths because we know how 'fair' they are. Talk back and they'll ban us for crying for fair judgment. No one cares if they talk bad about Gandi and Nehru here. But when we express our opinions about Jinnah.........

 

[TaimiKhan]

I can understand why your blood is boiling. Thats because he is your father of the nation. So what should we do when others call our father of the nation, racist and fascist. That thread about him is still growing and still nobody to care.

If you have a link to any thread or post, which is saying bad about your founding father, send me in a pm or as a visitor msg the link to it, will be taken care of.

If sometimes something is overlooked it doesn't means its deliberate. There is no compromise on religion and other major figures of any nation to be ridiculed about.

So next time, do ask the mods or admn in a PM or visitor msg for why such kind of things are taking place before you come up with such posts like the above one.

Waiting for your PM.

 

[TaimiKhan]

What are you, trying to start a revolution?
Pakistan troll Take that India flag off bro if you don't support "India" as a whole.

If you have issue with any member, would be better that you report him, other then getting to personal attacks.

brother, just keep in mind that we're in a Pakistani forum.... best to shut our mouths because we know how 'fair' they are. Talk back and they'll ban us for crying for fair judgment. No one cares if they talk bad about Gandi and Nehru here. But when we express our opinions about Jinnah.........

Well if you have so much issue with it being a Pakistani forum, why do you even bother to log in ?? Enjoy bharati forums, what are you finding here ??

And having Indian members in numbers with some having sane minds and discussions totally negates your above theory. Yeah if someone like you comes up with bait like comments and tries to make threads into inflammatory ones, then your whining is justified in your opinion, not in ours or others.