South China Sea Forum

[scobydoo]

Both China and Indonesia are building major ports in Indonesia for dual purpose naval&civilian

Pelindo II to build 3 new ports within 2 years | The Jakarta Post

China is also helping Indonesia with producing " Anti-shipping " missile

Indonesia, China to Sign Missile Production Agreement

Why do you think Indonesia would Choose China in producing Naval missiles ? it clearly shows where Indonesia stands , they choose to be neutral on the surface but also militarly working with China.

Indonesia has given the PLA navy permission to use Indonesian waters to spy and monitor the philippines .

At the end both Indonesia and Malaysia are muslim countries and they understand that the so called " Asia pivot " is not about china but rather attacking Muslims living in Indonesia and Malaysia , it is understandable why both countries are supporting china

A strong China will ensure the Independence of Malaysia and Indonesia from the threats of Christian aggression lead by philippines and the west.

Indonesians have watched on TV what happened to Muslims in the middle east at the hands of Americans , they are have their reasons in supporting China and the one china policy .



Excellent , A strong China is needed for an Independent Asia from foreign influence .

Since when Indonesia allow its territory for other country to spying others? Our constitution doesn't allow that.

Indonesia is not muslim country dude, our law guarantees freedom of 6 religion, and applying equal treatment to all 6 religion. Indonesia dont support any claimant on SCS issues

I don't know where do you get all these political view about Indonesia, but its totally wrong.

 

[USAHawk785]

Since when Indonesia allow its territory for other country to spying others? Our constitution doesn't allow that.

Indonesia is not muslim country dude, our law guarantees freedom of 6 religion, and applying equal treatment to all 6 religion. Indonesia dont support any claimant on SCS issues

I don't know where do you get all these political view about Indonesia, but its totally wrong.

Well said, clearly mahatir is a delusional, kowtowing quack.

 

[Zero_wing]

I was even suggesting replacing Vietnam and Philippines with China in ASEAN , it would give the organization a great boast and power if China Joined .

Are crazy one the China is outside of the South east Asia region hence the word "Association of Southeast Asian Nations" two the Philippines is founding member of ASEAN if the Philippines leave ASEAN its founding member it will be just like shooting your own foot in short it ASEAN will lose legitimacy and unity in fact it does not just go for the founding members but also all the members of the Organization remember its trying to be community and its already pushing hard for it now you trying to suggesting to break it up by removing countries that are Anti Chinese Imperialist? Only Maoist brainless chinko Imperial would even think like that! I mean its bad enough you total Cambodia a puppet state (well they need the money) Making the future of ASEAN grim and you wanna turn it to a modern day WARSAW pact with your country as the Modern USSR! (man this Chinko Imperials come up with really imbecilic ideas and suggestions) I think we got other false flagger chinko Imperialist troll who needs to have common sense and brain.

 

[HongWu]

The USA itself has been secretly negotiating with China in unifying Korea in return for withdrawing from the whole region . The Vietcongs are dumb to believe that America will save them in an event of war with China . The vietcongs do not understand that it was China that saved them from USA .

I know China is a patient country and looks for long term goals , this is just a matter of time and already USA is reducing its military budget , in a settlement agreement between both sides the USA will sell both Vietnam and Phillipines .

Vietnam is only digging its own grave with its current behaviour , no one in SE Asia like Vietnam's foreign policy , they always had problems with Thailand , Cambodia and Malaysia .

Vietnamese and Filipinos think they are clever by allying themselves with USA against China. Aquino III outsmarted himself last year because China is so powerful we can confront USA directly in a naval war within the first island chain. We called their bluff and Philippines lost the disputed island. Now we are doing the same thing with Vietnam. I am just waiting for Vietnam to make a blunder like Aquino III and it's all over for Hanoi because we share a land border with them.

 

[Zero_wing]

Vietnamese and Filipinos think they are clever by allying themselves with USA against China. Aquino III outsmarted himself last year because China is so powerful we can confront USA directly in a naval war within the first island chain. We called their bluff and Philippines lost the disputed island. Now we are doing the same thing with Vietnam. I am just waiting for Vietnam to make a blunder like Aquino III and it's all over for Hanoi because we share a land border with them.

Wow sir are you high? really maybe in your country history books it said that you won but you guys won a few islands but overall you guys could not subdue Vietnam they were battle harden you guys fell apart most of your battles with them they manage to content your invasion but they had big casualties so in truth nobody won that war it was stalemate but in terms of defense i say Vietnam did well if you say this not true why did Vietnam still exist today then? Don't tell me you were you show mercy because that's not true if you did that belief that you won should not exist it would say that a peace deal has been made but both countries claim victory again it was a stalemate a draw so deal with it other is you wining against the US Navy is other opium generated fantasy (should stop using that $h#t) one you never went on any naval engagement ever the Us has two the US navy can fight 3 wars in period of 100 years while most of your technology is copied poorly or stole from others it does not far against the US superior technology which one of the most advance you can sick a few ships but in the end your PLA navy will be corals reefs so please do so if you have the power to do so.

On my country one the only mistake President Aquino made is believing china to honor agreement that was made during the standoff so that's it but if i was the President i would send half of the Philippine Navy in the back of the Philippine Coast Guard and ask Aid to US and our Regional Allies to back us up and then Complain to the UN for gross violation of the code of conduct and endangering world peace in that way china will be heavy criticized for doing so and force to withdraw or risk international condemnation for using force not even your International position and your set in the security council can protect you with that mess so you have to either withdraw of continue and risk a new War. Oh ya would say to me why would the Us give a damn well not just MDT America has strategic interest and economic ones in the Philippines plus we got lobbying groups in the States and the Filipino American Vote not to mention Americans living the Philippines plus relationship history etc and other countries have invests here not unless china is willing to compensate many would still support the Philippines and attack legitimate peace loving country is bad press for china and not to mention you guys made a lot of enemies so take your pick a few reason vs a lot of good reason its seems your country will lose hard no matter what you do.

 

[USAHawk785]

We have 2 major Ally China and Indonesia , by the way we bombed the philippines border during the sabah conflict 2 month ago and killed over 100 philipinos what did the united states do ? nothing .

The chinese Navy took over James Shoal and continuously passes into philipines waters what did your united states do ? nothing

Your Nato is broken up clown , both Germany and France are against the united states and you really have no allies except britain who I would question their future commitment to any war.

south korea is locked with north and if the north unites with south then they will turn against your ******* country , as for Japan its no more than a toothless *****



LOL you will be Isolated in Asean vietcong thailand , indonesia and malaysia all against your ****** country , as for philippines we no they are nothing better than being maids in our country.

Malaysia economy is triple vietnam's economy yet we have 1/4 your populations, show how " strong " your country is clown .

Allies? lol ! The Indonesian military [TNI] views Malaysia as its major threat. Lest you forget the territorial confrontation Jakarta has had with Kuala Lumpur regard Sipadan. You're an isolated nation, a shrimp among whales. Your nation is surrounded on all sides ; Thailand's Royal Thai Armed Forces to the north, Singapore to your center, and the giant Indonesia and the TNI to your south.

In case of a war, in the event that ASEAN collapsed, Malaysia would be gobbled up.

 

[mahatir]

Allies? lol ! The Indonesian military [TNI] views Malaysia as its major threat. Lest you forget the territorial confrontation Jakarta has had with Kuala Lumpur regard Sipadan. You're an isolated nation, a shrimp among whales. Your nation is surrounded on all sides ; Thailand's Royal Thai Armed Forces to the north, Singapore to your center, and the giant Indonesia and the TNI to your south.

In case of a war, in the event that ASEAN collapsed, Malaysia would be gobbled up. And who would save your brown-skinned malays and their bhumiputra 'rights' ? lol.

Get back to reality, bud. Too much cannabis truly negatively impacts your coherence and neurocognitive acuity.

what a clown , stupid Indonesians and Malaysians are originally Malay , we speak the same language and share same religion LOL.

Singapore are Chinese
Thailand 15% chinese and allied with China " they have issues with vietnam to " .
Philippines no comment , they were fucked by us recently in sabah conflict.
Indonesia and Malaysia share same ethnicity and religion .

Bottom line you have no chance in this region clown

 

[Zero_wing]

what a clown , stupid Indonesians and Malaysians are originally Malay , we speak the same language and share same religion LOL.

Singapore are Chinese
Thailand 15% chinese and allied with China " they have issues with vietnam to " .
Philippines no comment , they were fucked by us recently in sabah conflict.
Indonesia and Malaysia share same ethnicity and religion .

Bottom line you have no chance in this region clown

Really? you do realized the Philippines did send them there it was moros idea to go there beside they owned that area anyway they are still there so why do mean you F@ck them over? they will be a pain to you so good luck with that beside you people armed and train them so its karma see how do like being trolled

 

[Malaya]

We have 2 major Ally China and Indonesia ,

Are you dreaming? Indonesia your ally?

by the way we bombed the philippines border during the sabah conflict 2 month ago and killed over 100 philipinos what did the united states do ? nothing .

You mean this?

You have unleashed all your military might to quell a small size of determined Tausug Mujahideens but with a disappointing outcome and a huge embarrassment to your amateur army.

Don’t worry Malaysia will experience what the Philippines has experience and even worse.

The chinese Navy took over James Shoal and continuously passes into philipines waters what did your united states do ? nothing

LOL the Chinese is already in Malaysian territories and has 4 warships anchored in James Shoal to supervise the construction of a military installation there. They are claiming all the Islands and waters in and around that area which Malaysia considered part of its territory. For sure ethnic Chinese in Malaysia will welcome China with open arms since they fear your country is becoming an Islamic state.

LOL you will be Isolated in Asean vietcong thailand , indonesia and malaysia all against your ****** country , as for philippines we no they are nothing better than being maids in our country.

Malaysia economy is triple vietnam's economy yet we have 1/4 your populations, show how " strong " your country is clown .

You think you have a lot of friends within ASEAN? Singapore should kick your butt out; you Malaysians maltreated Singaporeans, leading to riots and their eventual pull out of the federation. Singapore should ban all Malaysians coming into its territory, and guard its borders heavily. The land-grabbers are way too close. Ask people at Aceh Indonesia and south Thailand. I used to admire Mahathir, I did not know he is crook, a big-ticket crook. Japs export cars, Koreans export high-tech gadgets, Taiwan sells computer parts, etc and Malaysia? It is a smuggler of arms, trainer of secessionist groups, supporter and exporter of small wars.

 

[Malaya]

China spanked Philippines and Japan and grabbed control over disputed islands. Still waiting for American response.

China don't have balls. The Philippines and Japan is waiting for your first shot.

 

[hurt]

China don't have balls. The Philippines and japan is waiting for your first shot.

There is Philippines.
There is japan.
but there is no Philippines and japan

you only face it by youself. No one can help you

 

[Malaya]

There is Philippines.
There is japan.
but there is no Philippines and japan

you only face it by youself. No one can help you

CHINA in reality has no appetite to wage war... it can't even touch a small island called TAIWAN.

 

[hurt]

CHINA in reality has no appetite to wage war... it can't even touch a small island called TAIWAN.

All of People are Chinese citizensin in taiwan .We need Chinese citizensin alive include soldiers of taiwan.
But there is no much chinese citizensin in Philippines,We never mind Philippines.....

PS.Philippines too weak.The taiwan Army of a small island can destroy Philippines so easy.

 

[Malaya]

All of People are Chinese citizensin in taiwan .We need Chinese citizensin alive include soldiers of taiwan.
But there is no much chinese citizensin in Philippines,We never mind Philippines.....

PS.Philippines too weak.The taiwan Army of a small island can destroy Philippines so easy.

Don't worry that won't happen. Taiwan and the Philippines have good economic and bilateral relations. Besides both are also strong US allies.

China really deserves a thorn on its side, like Taiwan.

Aside from Japan, Vietnam, Philippines, S. Korea, India etc

 

[Zero_wing]

because you too weak

Weakness is not a sin and so what if we are weak the question is who is the aggressor here? That is answerable by the answer china is the greatest aggression the so called peaceful rise is lie just like everything in china and china is the new Nazi Japanese Empire and Fascist Italy in the 21st century same mind set too one both think of others as lower than themselves two you want to glory in war three expand territories base on old maps old mind set etc.