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:omghaha:Dont forget your dead number.

We remember them as Martyr,but your government even dont tell your poeple the killed number of your military:rofl:

He paid his life for stupid Deng Xiaoping, idiot dirty aggressor died in our soil.

Vietnamese people don't forget young people were killed by dirty chinese aggressors by Paracel 1974 and Gac Ma rocks 1984. :smokin:
 
He paid his life for stupid Deng Xiaoping, idiot dirty aggressor died in our soil.

Vietnamese people don't forget young people were killed by dirty chinese aggressors by Paracel 1974 and Gac Ma rocks 1984. :smokin:

No,he killed lots monkeys,its worth:china:
 
No,he killed lots monkeys,its worth:china:

Lots of chinese monkeys here. :guns::china:

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Problems?You steal our islands is The most important problem .

Oh please this coming from guy who's country has no respect for international law and other peoples territories and have disputes with almost all of its neighbors? i think the world would agree that china is the bad guy here

They are the hunter who dead in hunting monkey.
Hunters own tomb but monkey dead wilderness

Racist f@ct alert what no more evidence just pointless racist arrogant punts ha you chekwa are just sore losers
 
^Hypocrite^

Funny thing is, you are also arrogant and racist.

Stop using derogatory words like ch*nk and chekwa

From where you come from, people there are unethical.
 
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Asean appears more united on South China Sea issues
July 7, 2013

What a difference a year - or, more to the point - a new host makes.

Around this time last year, the Association of Southeast Asian Nations reeled from an unexpected scandal: the failure for the first time to issue a joint communique after a leaders' summit. China had pressured host Cambodia, its close ally, not to allow any mention of the South China Sea disputes in the traditional closing statement; both the Philippines and Vietnam vigourously objected, but in the end Cambodia chose to side, not with its ASEAN partners, but with China.

Chinese overreach had immediate regional consequences. Beijing's aggressive conduct in the South China Sea attracted renewed international attention. Cambodia felt the urgent need to repair its relations with neighbouring Vietnam, one of the claimant countries. Not least, the largest ASEAN member, Indonesia, began a form of shuttle diplomacy, with support from Singapore, to try to repair the unexpected damage to ASEAN unity.

This Indonesian initiative, it became clear over last weekend, during the ASEAN summit hosted by Brunei, has effectively strengthened Asean's resolve to commit China to a binding "code of conduct", one which will govern maritime disputes as well as maritime cooperation in the region.

"We have to have the code of conduct," Indonesian Foreign Minister Marty Natalegawa said in Bandar Seri Begawan. "Otherwise, uncertainty will prevail."

With new Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi taking part in ASEAN exchanges for the first time, the association reached an agreement with Beijing to begin official consultations on the code of conduct, to lead to formal talks in September.

The language of the communique is worth a close read. The 90th paragraph of a 98-paragraph communique reads in full: "We discussed the situation and recent developments in the South China Sea. In this regard, we appreciated the exchange of views on the issues including initiatives and approaches to enhance trust, confidence and dialogue, and address incidents in the South China Sea. We also noted suggestions for a hotline of communication, as well as search and rescue of persons and vessels in distress. We further reaffirmed the importance of peace, stability and maritime security in the region. We underscored the importance of the Declaration on the Conduct of Parties in the South China Sea (DOC), Asean's Six-Point Principles on the South China Sea, and the Asean-China Joint Statement on the 10th Anniversary of the DOC. In this regard, we reaffirmed the collective commitments under the DOC to ensuring the resolution of disputes by peaceful means in accordance with universally recognised principles of international law, including the 1982 United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea, without resorting to the threat or use of force, while exercising self-restraint in the conduct of activities."

This is exactly the Philippine position, and it is good to see it restated in an official ASEAN statement. Even more important for resolving regional tensions is the last sentence of the next paragraph: "Taking into account the importance of the 10th anniversary of the Asean-China Strategic Partnership in 2013, we look forward to the formal consultations between ASEAN and China at the SOM [Senior Officials' Meeting] level on the COC [Code of Conduct] with an aim to reach an early conclusion of a Code of Conduct in the South China Sea, which will serve to enhance peace, stability and prosperity in the region."

It may be that Cambodia has realised that its membership in ASEAN loses much of its potency if it is perceived as a Chinese proxy; it may be that Sultan Bolkiah of Brunei has put his entire weight behind the Indonesian initiative; it may be that Chinese assertiveness in advancing its claims to almost the entire South China Sea, and the refusal of both the Philippines and Vietnam to back down, has had the effect of strengthening ASEAN conviction about its "centrality in the evolving regional architecture" - in the words of the communique.

Whatever the reason, China has finally heard from ASEAN again on the vexing issue of competing maritime claims in the South China Sea. That is no small thing.

Asean appears more united on South China Sea issues - The Nation
 
Give Australia, ASEAN access to PH bases
BY CARMELA FONBUENA
07/01/2013

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MANILA, Philippines - Former defense secretary Gilberto Teodoro Jr supports a government plan to give the United States and Japan more access to Philippine military bases. He said the same access should be given to Australia and ASEAN countries.

"I favor optimizing access to Philippine bases not only for Japan and the US, but also for other friendly States, such as the ASEAN states and Australia," Teodoro told Rappler on Monday, July 1, when asked to comment on the government plan.

"This will facilitate confidence building and interoperability between our forces and those of others," Teodoro added.

Defense Secretary Voltaire Gazmin said the government is drafting plans to allow US forces to spend extended time on the Philippines' military bases. He said the same plan will be offered to Japan's military.

READ: PH wants to give US, Japan access to bases

Teodoro argued defense exchanges have various benefits, including assisting the Philippine government in improving its disaster preparedness.

"This is useful not merely for traditional defense concerns but also for non-traditional ones such as Humaniatarian Assistance and Disaster Response (HADR), Peace Keeping Operations (PKO), and responding to pandemics, to name a few," Teodoro said in an e-mail to Rappler.

Teodoro ran for president in 2010 but lost to his cousin, President Benigno Aquino III. He continues to speak on security and defense-related matters.

Concerned camps

Various camps are critical of the government's plan to open access to its bases, notably the one in Subic, Olongapo City. Leftist group Bayan called on government and various sectors to "reject US intervention and manipulation."

"The Philippine government is grossly mistaken if it thinks that the US is the key to defending our national sovereignty. The US is merely out to take advantage of the dispute so that it can position itself strategically in Asia," Bayan said in a statement on Sunday, June 30.

The Philippine Daily Inquirer also ran a July 1 editorial critical of the plan. It reads: "A decision to host allied military forces inside Philippine bases, however, should not be taken lightly; meetings and supply arrangements and joint exercises can all be justified as the Armed Forces of the Philippines’ belated attempts at capacity-building. Allowing foreign troops from allies with a stake in the ongoing South China Sea disputes to operate in and—the crucial difference—from Philippine military bases is much harder to rationalize."

Teodoro said what's important is for government to craft policy guidelines that will guarantee the protection of Philippine interests.

"I used the term optimizing in order to underscore the importance of having carefully crafted policy guidelines on the matter, which shall take into account our national and international interests, responsibilities, and obligations," he explained.

Aggressive China

The plan to give the US and Japan more access to the country's military bases comes at a difficult time for Philippine-China relations.

On Saturday, June 29, China's state-run media warned that the Philippines should brace itself for a possible "counterstrike should Beijing continue to be provoked in the South China Sea (West Philippine Sea).

The Philippines has accused China of "massive" military buildup in the disputed West Philippine Sea. In a statement released on the first day of the annual Asia-Pacific talks in Brunei, the Philippines warned that the Asian giant's tactics threatened peace in the region.

Japan earlier pledged to help the Philippines defend its "remote islands," as both governments expressed concern over China's robust moves to stake its claims to disputed Asian waters.

READ: Japan vows to help PH amid China Sea row

"We agreed that we will further cooperate in terms of the defense of remote islands... the defense of territorial seas as well as protection of maritime interests," Japanese Defense Minister Itsunori Onodera told a joint news conference.

The Philippine military also recently held war games with the United States near the disputed Scarborough Shoal. It is a part of a 6-day Cooperation Afloat Readiness and Training (CARAT) exercises that involved 3 US Navy vessels, including the USS Fitzgerald, a guided missile destroyer.

Wait a second, is Aquino saying he want to lease PH military bases (pimp PH sovereignty) to other country?
 
Nope its still a Philippine military base under the Philippines it just means it allows allied countries to stay conduct joint training and exercise and resupply and refuel etc noting major its still under the VFA or Vising Force agreement but this time more allied countries would be allowed not just America. Indonesia should look into it as well
 
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