South Asia UNITE against western european propaganda and lies against Indians / Pakistani

[Echo_419]

why r indians like you existing? india was also created in the same year as pakistan. pakistanis will never accept indians as their brothers and sisters. most pakistanis have racist attitude to indians. leave pakistanis alone and have pride in who u r. i dont care about pakistan id ont wanting union with them

Yaar just fir curiosity where exactly so you live in India & do you know how to read hindi

 

[Sugarcane]

When u refuted ??

Contradictions / Difficulties in the Qur'an
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/SKM/contradictions.htm
Ali Sina reveals Islam and Prophet Muhammad
A List Of Biblical Contradictions

Hence bible and quran are wrong about adam and eve..
now refute that...

We are talking about evolution theory...........

 

[Neutral observer]

Yaar just fir curiosity where exactly so you live in India & do you know how to read hindi

im a gujarati born and raised in the uk. i cant read or write in hindi

 

[Echo_419]

im a gujarati born and raised in the uk. i cant read or write in hindi

Well can you speak or write Gujarati

 

[WAR-rior]

obviously ur right about that. indians all consider each other same. but pakistanis come from different country and often look different too(alot of people notice this) have diferent religion, culture, language.

i'm indian and proud of who i am. i dont wana be asociated with pakistan. leave pakistanis on their own.

I understand that u say this all coz of attitude of Pakistanis. But facts remain the same. Irrespective of what someone wants, Pakistanis are ultimately the ones migrated from India during partition. This itself says they are Indians by genes no matter what any chavanist try to say just to so called have a different identity from Indians. Pakistanis are habitual of doing something that is against basic facts on ground. Whether we want or not, Pakistan, Bangladesh and India all are same people only to become different country due to misdeeds of Westerners during partition.

Shouting on top of a tower doesnt change facts. PAKISTANIS ARE NOT ARABS AND ARE SUBCONTINENTAL. and that my friend is TRUE.

Had islam not been formed by Muhhamad there would have been no partition hence we would have remained as one nation and could have developed more fastly but as always a new religion ruined this world forever. were previous religions not sufficient..??

Islam as per its nature of practice is for Saudi conditions. India was always the most complete piece of land with maximum productivity and hence everyone was content and satisfied. Some reason why India was always ivaded. For abandant gold, welth and resources. Some reason why Invaders settled in India was they cud have never got the life in Sand region what they got in fertile India. Hence, Islam was never required for a region like India. Simple Example, In islam eating meat is part of religion and as staple food coz in Saudi sands, vegetation was nil and hence only survival was being carnivorous. In India tough meat was consumed in ancient times but was never the staple food coz all kinds of crops grew here.

So you simply cant say Islam wasnt necessary. It was but for some other civilization. In India you never needed it. It came only coz if Invaders and hence their influence and conversion.

 

[WAR-rior]

Blood brothers? which world are u living in? Most Pakistanis ive come across didnt behave like indians are their blood brothers. they infact have condescending view of indians. they look down on indians and view indians as inferior. if any indian is in doubt just read the comments from most pakistanis on this forum. pakistanis dont like indians and they are not interested in south asian union. the gigantic majority of pakistanis are not for a south asian union. they infact dont like being asociated with other south asians and especially indians. its obvious for evryone to see.

why indians would want union with pakistan i dont understand. pakistan is seperate country and they have their own thing going on.

Ha Ha. Nobody want any union dude as per your defination. Once whole Europe was one but today they are European Union, which doesnt mean the individual countries dont exist. Just coz Pakistanis on this forum are ignorant doesnt mean we too shud be. PAkistanis for their ignorance have become 'na ghar ka na ghat ka'. But we Indians know our Identity against that of others in the Worls and that itself is a virtue. Poor Pakistanis are still not sure who they are or shud be or want to be. Dont go for reactive attitude.

I know that Pakistanis are none other than Subcontinental and even the Afganis are none other than people of ancient country of Gandhara(Kandhar) from where our Shakuni of Mahabharata comes. All the regions in Mahabharat are part of BHARAT VARSH. ie. People from different countries but part of same race. Do watch all the participants of Mahabharat. The reason its called by that name is coz for the 1st tym all the kingdoms of same race and region participated in single War. Also to note is that Hindukush, Himalyas and Indian Ocean was the reason which kept these people as part of same Race for a long time. There was hardly any mingling by majority of people of Sub Continent with West Asia, China and Sri Lanka. Only limited exposure with tribes of these region was because of some nomads.

Now obove facts are written history and many times shown by BBC documentries on basis of International History. So fuget what Pakistanis think and beleive in what on paper historical facts are.

 

[faithfulguy]

Still you dont get it.Some people will give priority to their believes like religion etc.But at the end ,all
are Indians.Doubt that showed by you is already show by Winston Churchill ,the infamous PM of UK in 1947,he believes India at its present form will not complete 20 years.But now we celebrated 66 independance and the whole world considered India as a world power and emerging country.
Due to vast diversity in India ,some problem will arise .but at the end all are one .An Indian.we are proud about that
I met a lot of sikh friends in kerala my home state .From my experience first they see themselves as Indian and they are also proud about to know as an Indian ,like any other Indian.
Pakistan is created on the basis of religion.So they are very much different than India.

First of all, Winston Churchill was a great world leader and without him, Britain might fall to Nazi Germany. Since Britain was the one country that stand up against Nazi Germany by itself for a long time, it deserve our respect. And Winston Churchill should take the most credit for that defense.

But since you are not a member of the free world, you don't really care for people that fought for freedom. As a result, you judge others through your narrow views. You probably hate Winston Churchill for correctly regard India as a geographical expression. And without English and the British parliamentary system, India might not survive 20 years. But because India was gifted these things by the British, India lasted longer. So be thankful for English that united India. Because without a common language that unite India, India would not have lasted.

But fact is that each and every countries in Europe has same power and potential britian ,Germany ,France all have same caliber.
But in Indian subcontinent India is too powerful than all other countries combined in south asia.that the difference ,so 2 or 3 wars and after we can reunion..... .Its not going to work like that.It will be disaster.So let it go this way ,each countries have their own priorities.It no going to change

I guess Britain had created a monster in the Indian subcontinent called India if India think like you.

 

[farhan_9909]

A union is impossible and we should have a union with people we have similarities with not Indians.

Not a union but we should have greater military relations with iran and turkey

Though i wish if GCC could be expanded to turkey,Pakistan and iran aswell.that would be a powerful union.

We should than conduct missions under an army like incase of NATO and non muslim countries should not be allowed to invade muslim countries like syria.afghanistan,iraq,libya etc

 

[MadDog]

Ha Ha. Nobody want any union dude as per your defination. Once whole Europe was one but today they are European Union, which doesnt mean the individual countries dont exist. Just coz Pakistanis on this forum are ignorant doesnt mean we too shud be. PAkistanis for their ignorance have become 'na ghar ka na ghat ka'. But we Indians know our Identity against that of others in the Worls and that itself is a virtue. Poor Pakistanis are still not sure who they are or shud be or want to be. Dont go for reactive attitude.

I know that Pakistanis are none other than Subcontinental and even the Afganis are none other than people of ancient country of Gandhara(Kandhar) from where our Shakuni of Mahabharata comes. All the regions in Mahabharat are part of BHARAT VARSH. ie. People from different countries but part of same race. Do watch all the participants of Mahabharat. The reason its called by that name is coz for the 1st tym all the kingdoms of same race and region participated in single War. Also to note is that Hindukush, Himalyas and Indian Ocean was the reason which kept these people as part of same Race for a long time. There was hardly any mingling by majority of people of Sub Continent with West Asia, China and Sri Lanka. Only limited exposure with tribes of these region was because of some nomads.

Now obove facts are written history and many times shown by BBC documentries on basis of International History. So fuget what Pakistanis think and beleive in what on paper historical facts are.

My friend Gandhara civiliization didn't only include Kandahar, it included Pakistan's North Western Province and part of Northern Punjab. The other civilizations of Pakistan were Indus Valley civilizations, and Mehrghar civilization of Baluchistan. All of these were developed along the sides of River Indus, Read the book by Aitzaz Ahsan.."The Indus Saga and the Making of Pakistan"....The civilizations of Indus were absolutely independent of civilizations that developed along Ganges and Yamuna.....Pakistan mentioned first time in ChRehmat Ali's Journal means five regions Punjab, Afghania ( old name of KPK province) , Kashmir, Sindh and BalochisTAN. These five regions got their culture inherited from civilizations developed along River Indus..has nothing to do with civilizations in Ganges and Yumana where today's India inherited its culture and values from...the only region in India which is culturally closer to Pakistan is Punjab and Kashmir (Punjabis are 1.5% of the Indian population while Kashmir is a disputed area), the rest ( Gujratis, Marathi, Haryanvi, Tamils, Telugu, Kannada, Bengali, Bihari, Assamese, Nepali) are absolutely different, as alien as Tajiks or Uzbeks are to us.

 

[WAR-rior]

My friend Gandhara civiliization didn't only include Kandahar, it included Pakistan's North Western Province and part of Northern Punjab. The other civilizations of Pakistan were Indus Valley civilizations, and Mehrghar civilization of Baluchistan. All of these were developed along the sides of River Indus, Read the book by Aitzaz Ahsan.."The Indus Saga and the Making of Pakistan"....The civilizations of Indus were absolutely independent of civilizations that developed along Ganges and Yamuna.....Pakistan mentioned first time in ChRehmat Ali's Journal means five regions Punjab, Afghania ( old name of KPK province) , Kashmir, Sindh and BalochisTAN. These five regions got their culture inherited from civilizations developed along River Indus..has nothing to do with civilizations in Ganges and Yumana where today's India inherited its culture and values from...the only region in India which is culturally closer to Pakistan is Punjab and Kashmir (Punjabis are 1.5% of the Indian population while Kashmir is a disputed area), the rest ( Gujratis, Marathi, Haryanvi, Tamils, Telugu, Kannada, Bengali, Bihari, Assamese, Nepali) are absolutely different, as alien as Tajiks or Uzbeks are to us.

Give me one simple logic. What was that factor which wud have made the civilizations from Indus and Ganges stay apart from each other?

I mean Chinese in Vedic India were never mingled due to Himalyas. Persians dint much interacted with Indians due to hindukush. Lankans never interacted with Indians due to Indian Ocean.

Why do u think Sindhu and Ganga people never interacted? Is it that Indus guyz knew that after millenia they wud embrace a new religion and hence shud be seperate from evil yindoos from that date itself?

And regarding the the journals and books you mentions are a bit biased in nature without logic. Just go into some well documented International History and read bout MAHAJANPADAS of Indian Subcontinent. ie. Bharat Varsha. Also, the names you mentioned were different kingdoms but all were same race due to their frequent mingling and having marrying across kingdoms. Gandhari (from Indus region) married Dhritrashtra (From Ganges region) coz there was no physical barrier to restrice movement and relations. Now what I said seems logical and practical. Isnt it?

And your comparision of Gujratis, Marathi, Haryanvi, Tamils, Telugu, Kannada, Bengali, Bihari, Assamese, Nepalis from Uzbek and Tajiks only mean that current region in Pakistan mingled with them more frequently past 2 millenia but India as a race is even more ancient. Do look out for 'Vedic India'.

wtf is this thread about.
We are different nations with our own priority why should we gang up on US with which we got good relation? Makes no sense?

Arre yaar. Who says union with SAARC countries mean enmity with USA. I think u dint understand the concept of union.

Also, if Pakistan wake up to realities and not create problems for India in name of Kashmir then there is no problem between us.

 

[wolfschanzze]

India and Pakistan should unite and end the mistake of partition..

First of all Europe had a common thing all countries were christian,What are we same religion i guess not, if pakistais dont want to be part of india why are you running after them?I see a stockholm syndrome in fellow indians here in PDF, Somehow even though the pakistanis hate you, deride your country,religion and our people yet you find it perfect to stay here instead of joining your country defence forums, i dont understand this behaviour from fellow indians, why stay and wish for peace even after getting insulted everyday?

 

[hadoken]

To be fair the prosperity of south Asia as an ECONOMIC HUB depends on the political stability between teh 2 nations. Btw, Punjab has more in common with Kashmir than they do with Haryana loool okay mate!

As far as I know Hindus from Kashmir and Jammu have more in common culturally and linguistically with Himachalis and Uttarakhandi more so than anyone else.

 

[Neutral observer]

First of all Europe had a common thing all countries were christian,What are we same religion i guess not, if pakistais dont want to be part of india why are you running after them?I see a stockholm syndrome in fellow indians here in PDF, Somehow even though the pakistanis hate you, deride your country,religion and our people yet you find it perfect to stay here instead of joining your country defence forums, i dont understand this behaviour from fellow indians, why stay and wish for peace even after getting insulted everyday?

bro thats exactly what im saying here!! u see how offended indians get if somebody mentions Pakistan is different from india?? they start clutching straws to poof their point. its pathetic and if anybody brings this problem up the indians dismiss it but deep down inside they know the truth that pakis will never accept indians as there own ppl. even the most friendly pakis are reluctant about this stuff.

if pakistanis dont wanna be part of india or asociate with india then leave them alone. wats the point of lying to asocite with them? indians are insulted nonstop about skin color and looks yet they stay here sucking up to pakis.

im ASHAMED OF THEM, HAVE SOME INTEGRITY

wat else i have to say is the only ppl caling for union is indians most pakis have superior complex and never cal for union or peace

 

[wolfschanzze]

bro thats exactly what im saying here!! u see how offended indians get if somebody mentions Pakistan is different from india?? they start clutching straws to poof their point. its pathetic and if anybody brings this problem up the indians dismiss it but deep down inside they know the truth that pakis will never accept indians as there own ppl. even the most friendly pakis are reluctant about this stuff.

if pakistanis dont wanna be part of india or asociate with india then leave them alone. wats the point of lying to asocite with them?

Actually genetically speaking pakistanis are the same as indians, just like how caucasians are a group of people even though they have different countries, likewise they have indian genes, be it srilanka,nepal,bangladesh etc.Pakistanis in general think they are arabs,this lack of identity is what causes so much trouble in their nation, while on other hand indians call themselves indians.
But aside from that we both are different countries, i still dont understand why indians want peace with pakistan even after 4 wars and numerous terror attacks.My point is we should totally ignore pakistan, no talks,no sports, no art shows, no trade, untill they stop terror attacks.Let them be as they are they will implode from within in a few years looking at the daily incidents and terror created by TTP and their homegrown terrorists.
I am apalled at the love of fellow indians for pakistan, i guess its AMAN KI AASHA brainwashing effecting our fellow indians here in PDF.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Pakistan and India. If these two countries agree then we will be free from america and we will have a chance to develop our countries. Those fukin NATO are playing their shitty games in this region by takin advantage of pak-india rivalry and they are living peaceful lives out there. If these countries unite then even USA won't be able to disturb these countries. Pak-India Comb(if possible) Will be the next superpower of the world.

I'm saying forget America and stuff, if w bury the hatchet, we can really do so much for each other. In end, we are family. The Chinese and americans aren't.