Sorry, Fareed: Saudi Arabia Can Build a Bomb Any Damn Time It Wants To

[Hyperion]

Sorry mate.... not even ONE TRILLION dollar buys you the knowledge or expertise to manufacture nuclear weapons or reactors....... it really doesn't............ this is not a seventy year old tech, it's sacred tech........

Within the next two years actually. Have you heard the term "paisa phaek, tamasha dekh." (roughly translated: Throw money, and watch the show).
This world (unfortunately) worships only one thing, and that is money. The Saudis are sitting on a SWF of approx $700bn to $900bn, maybe even more (depends on who you talk to).

DO you honestly think that any of the powers who have a credible nuclear & missile program, will ignore the Billions of US$. Be it Russia, China or even US?

They will be lining up in their best custom fitted suits and silk ties, flying in on private jets, with expensive gifts!!

 

[Saif al-Arab]

ok, I accept using "Peace because it is ideal and because you are neighbors" instead of brushing a failure and defeat under the rug... I get it... no problem... It is typical of our Muslim brothers...

Who is brushing anything under the carpet? KSA was not involved in those wars other than in 1947-1948. Nor was even 15% of the Arab world involved in those wars. There is a HUGE difference between Israel (supported fully by the Western world) who fought for their very existence and led by capable army officers (not corrupt ones or those formed in dictatorships like the 2-3 Arab armies). I can assure you that no ME/Muslim country would have done anything against Israel. Do I need to remind you of the fact that Israel was already a nuclear power back then? If the existence of Israel and ultimately most Jews of the world was ever threatened the West would give authorization for Israel to nuke nearby Syria, Iraq, Egypt etc.

In any case Arab military history is the most impressive one among non-Western people.

Rashidun Caliphate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (11th largest empire in world history and the 3 biggest Muslim empire/Muslim empire originating in what is today majority Muslim lands)

Abbasid Caliphate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (9th largest empire in world history and the 2 biggest Muslim empire/Muslim empire originating in what is today majority Muslim lands)

Umayyad Caliphate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (5th biggest empire in world history and THE biggest Muslim empire/Muslim empire originating in what is today majority Muslim lands)

Let alone countless of kingdoms, sultanates, imamates, sheikdoms, emirates etc. on 3 continents (Asia, Europe and Africa).

All above originating from what is now KSA and Arabia.

The current legacy of all this is this landmass and people below;

Nobody outside of Westerners are anywhere near the imperial and military history of Arabs historically based on conquest and number of empires etc. Just plain and simple facts as I demonstrated.

You were saying what?

Arabs are fighting all over the world and not afraid of the battlefield or of dying.

ok, I accept using "Peace because it is ideal and because you are neighbors" instead of brushing a failure and defeat under the rug... I get it... no problem... It is typical of our Muslim brothers...


I think those who spread sectarian and hate into solely technical and scientific threads are good guys and should be awarded!!

So it's now sectarian to say that the Indian clown Zakaria Fareed is a biased clown partially due to his sect? His track record speaks for himself as well as his academic career (plagiarism).

You know same thing as Farce News writing nonsense about KSA activating some tribal warlord (drug lord too) somewhere in Afghanistan against Pakistan as we saw reported earlier today!

 

[Hyperion]

@Saif al-Arab @scythian500 and Indian trolls..... let's not debate religion here....... let's pit nuclear physicists, engineers and other related scientists (of International repute) against each others countries and see for once who can do it..........

 

[Indus Falcon]

Sorry mate.... not even ONE TRILLION dollar buys you the knowledge or expertise to manufacture nuclear weapons or reactors....... it really doesn't............ this is not a seventy year old tech, it's sacred tech........

You think a Chinese or Russian General being offered a billion US$ is going to act sanctimonious?

Or for $50bn +/- Mother Russia might NOT gift a few dozen ICBS, with the know how from A to Z, Plus take the Saudi under their defence umbrella for the next XXyears?? Who is going to stop it?

Reality Check: Money talks & BS walks

 

[scythian500]

Sorry mate.... not even ONE TRILLION dollar buys you the knowledge or expertise to manufacture nuclear weapons or reactors....... it really doesn't............ this is not a seventy year old tech, it's sacred tech........

Another good example is Landing a human to moon... it is over 60 years achievement...but who really can do it even today in 2015? Money never buys science and tech... it is needs hard work, sweat, people are love science and tech, people are ready to get their hands dirty and fail many time until they succeed... being a science and tech nation needs tens of different factors to exist in one country... it will not be achieved by paying other countries scientists to come to publish their research under their universities name and yet claim they are now industrialized...

nations like Iran and Turkey or India or South Korea have gone through many tiring, disappointing, desperate moments in their journey toward industrialization... It is not done over night and by only wishes and money

@Saif al-Arab @scythian500 and Indian trolls..... let's not debate religion here....... let's pit nuclear physicists, engineers and other related scientists (of International repute) against each others countries and see for once who can do it..........

Please read every post I have posted here... do you see anything about religion? I know you are a fair Mod

 

[Hyperion]

LMFAO..... are you kidding me???? Mate, are you even related to this field? This is not something you can just pick off the shelf and gift it.

Defense Umbrella YES..... NOTHING MORE......

You think a Chinese or Russian General being offered a billion US$ is going to act sanctimonious?

Dude, I'm not a mod!

Please read every post I have posted here... do you see anything about religion? I know you are a fair Mod

 

[Saif al-Arab]

@Saif al-Arab @scythian500 and Indian trolls..... let's not debate religion here....... let's pit nuclear physicists, engineers and other related scientists (of International repute) against each others countries and see for once who can do it..........

KSA does not have the ability to built nuclear weapons as of now, neither Iran so what is there to compare? Who said that they had? Certainly not KSA. So whatever the trolls are writing is something they themselves imagine. Besides Pakistan started their program much earlier and have a population that is 15-20 times bigger than that of KSA. It's like comparing China with Pakistan and KSA with East Timor. It makes zero sense.

Or it's like comparing the number of scientists in the Arab world 1000 years ago with those found in modern-day Pakistan 1000 years ago or those found in the Arab world in pre-Islamic times with those found in Indonesia or Europe. Not a fair comparison for Pakistan back then or Indonesia and Europe just like it is not fair to compare KSA with Pakistan today.

Anyway may I remind you of the fact that KSA has the 4th highest number of students at US universities and that KSA has more students at US universities per capita than all other countries on the planet? This student program has only been alive for around 1 decade and you will see the fruits of this in the future. Have no doubt about it. KSA is on a very good route compared to the population size which is crucial for most developing countries.

@azzo you have all the statistics, links etc. at hand so if you can help me out here it would be appreciated.

In any case **** nuclear weapons. All that matters is alternative energy sources and nuclear energy something that KSA is at the forefront of. Let alone economy where we are ahead of all Muslim countries BY FAR outside of fellow GCC states!

 

[Indus Falcon]

LMFAO..... are you kidding me???? Mate, are you even related to this field? This is not something you can just pick off the shelf and gift it.



Dude, I'm not a mod!

Have you EVER met a Russian General?

 

[Hyperion]

My only problem with the statement is "Saudia can BUILD a bomb any damn time it wants"........... sorry can't do that, NEITHER can Iran................

KSA does not have the ability to built nuclear weapons as of now, neither Iran so what is there to compare? Besides Pakistan started their program much earlier and have a population that is 15-20 times bigger than that of KSA. It's like comparing China with Pakistan and KSA with East Timor. It makes zero sense.

 

[scythian500]

KSA was not involved in those wars other than in 1947-1948

now it is an KSA thing... what about you talking of as being a representative of Arabs!? It is always a Arab thing but when it comes to why you arabs accepted this himulation and gave up on Palestinians.. now it is not an Arab thing but KSA is separate!!

 

[Saif al-Arab]

now it is an KSA thing... what about you talking of as being a representative of Arabs!? It is always a Arab thing but when it comes to why you arabs accepted this himulation and gave up on Palestinians.. now it is not an Arab thing but KSA is separate!!

Are you dumb or just not reading my post? Do you understand the circumstances that were present for both sides? They were not comparable.

Besides you deliberately missed this.

Rashidun Caliphate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (11th largest empire in world history and the 3 biggest Muslim empire/Muslim empire originating in what is today majority Muslim lands)

Abbasid Caliphate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (9th largest empire in world history and the 2 biggest Muslim empire/Muslim empire originating in what is today majority Muslim lands)

Umayyad Caliphate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (5th biggest empire in world history and THE biggest Muslim empire/Muslim empire originating in what is today majority Muslim lands)

Let alone countless of kingdoms, sultanates, imamates, sheikdoms, emirates etc. on 3 continents (Asia, Europe and Africa).

All above originating from what is now KSA and Arabia.

The current legacy of all this is this landmass and people below;

Nobody outside of Westerners are anywhere near the imperial and military history of Arabs historically based on conquest and number of empires etc. Just plain and simple facts as I demonstrated.

You were saying what?

 

[scythian500]

Who is brushing anything under the carpet? KSA was not involved in those wars other than in 1947-1948. Nor was even 15% of the Arab world involved in those wars. There is a HUGE difference between Israel (supported fully by the Western world) who fought for their very existence and led by capable army officers (not corrupt ones or those formed in dictatorships like the 2-3 Arab armies). I can assure you that no ME/Muslim country would have done anything against Israel. Do I need to remind you of the fact that Israel was already a nuclear power back then? If the existence of Israel and ultimately most Jews of the world was ever threatened the West would give authorization for Israel to nuke nearby Syria, Iraq, Egypt etc.

In any case Arab military history is the most impressive one among non-Western people.

Rashidun Caliphate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (11th largest empire in world history and the 3 biggest Muslim empire/Muslim empire originating in what is today majority Muslim lands)

Abbasid Caliphate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (9th largest empire in world history and the 2 biggest Muslim empire/Muslim empire originating in what is today majority Muslim lands)

Umayyad Caliphate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (5th biggest empire in world history and THE biggest Muslim empire/Muslim empire originating in what is today majority Muslim lands)

Let alone countless of kingdoms, sultanates, imamates, sheikdoms, emirates etc. on 3 continents (Asia, Europe and Africa).

All above originating from what is now KSA and Arabia.

The current legacy of all this is this landmass and people below;

Nobody outside of Westerners are anywhere near the imperial and military history of Arabs historically based on conquest and number of empires etc. Just plain and simple facts as I demonstrated.

You were saying what?

Arabs are fighting all over the world and not afraid of the battlefield or of dying.



So it's now sectarian to say that the Indian clown Zakaria Fareed is a biased clown partially due to his sect? His track record speaks for himself as well as his academic career (plagiarism).

You know same thing as Farce News writing nonsense about KSA activating some tribal warlord (drug lord too) somewhere in Afghanistan against Pakistan as we saw reported earlier today!

no, if you review your last 100 posts after the effect of that thing is gone, you see what are you doing... and don't be sad... I know you won't sleep tonight because of that negative rating... let it go.. it is just a forum... It is not even a bit important... go live your life and leave the sectarian war to sectarian warriors on the ground!!

 

[Shan-e-ibrahim]

Within the next two years actually. Have you heard the term "paisa phaek, tamasha dekh." (roughly translated: Throw money, and watch the show).
This world (unfortunately) worships only one thing, and that is money. The Saudis are sitting on a SWF of approx $700bn to $900bn, maybe even more (depends on who you talk to). Lets not forget their oil reserves either, with the lowest cost of production in the world!

DO you honestly think that any of the powers who have a credible nuclear & missile program, will ignore the Billions of US$. Be it Russia, China or even US?

They will be lining up in their best custom fitted suits and silk ties, flying in on private jets, with expensive gifts!!

I was talking about building the device from scratch based on indigenous infrastructure? Can they?

 

[Hyperion]

Did anyone know that we (puny Pakistan) taught China ABC of Nuclear Fuel Cycle????? I bet NONE of you knew that......... I have to admit here that due to their sheer size and almost unlimited funds, they are way ahead in the QUANTITY they can produce, HOWEVER, still in many critical techs, which they bought OFF THE SHELF, we built OUR OWN........

China's Nuclear Fuel Cycle

 

[scythian500]

They were not comparable.

what about now? are all 450 million arabs with all those countries with all those air forces and soldiers are comparable to a tiny 5 million ISrael? Can you do the same job you did in Yemen in Israel or if they were (Israelis) who actually helped you do the job in Yemen...!