Something Pakistani politics need to learn from India - AAP in a roll !

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for the first time in history of Indian democracy two largest parties BJP and AAP are contesting for who manage to sit in opposition.
If AAP really cared for the people of Delhi then they should come forward and try to form government and try to fulfill all those unrealistic promises they made to the masses. Right now whatever they are doing doesn't seem they are any different than traditional parties do for scoring political points.

congress was already doomed so its basically BJP whom AAP gives the hard time.

In govt or out of govt AAP will have to prove itself by giving its allies a hard time on genuine issues

 

[Srinivas]

They actually are kind of crazy. Beyond an anti-corruption plank, their stands on issues border on the ludicrous. An economic disaster awaits if they act according to what they suggest.

Kejriwal acts like a conservative guy, which I think is not good enough when it comes to political leadership.

I also think any change in India has to come for a decade or two in a slow and steady manner, Kejriwal's thinking of abrupt changes will only damage the existing fabric of Indian democracy.

Before bringing change one has to weigh positives and negatives, I think Kejriwal has not done that, in case of Lokpal bill.

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

Capture power? Hindu nationalist like you will never understand comman man's needs where whole base is on Hinduism. AAP never wanted to enter politics and even today they are as happy as they can to be in opposition. Thats what i say u fail to understand this style of politics as you are blinded by conventional style.

AAP before forming the party acted as opposition, after forming the party acted as opposition and now after winning too are opting for opposition as that suits them the best. they will force the party in power to be noncorrupt and as the major opposition its easy for them. End of the day thats what they wanted even before coming in picture.

I support AAP and its system. But the fact is , if AAP is in power, Delhi will be financially doomed for sure. They are not corrupt, agreed, nationalist, secular, but economic policies? I don think so.
Only kids will release manifesto like 700 free litres of water for free for each family, question Batla house encounter when a cop had been killed, reduce electricity rates(already lower compared to many countries in the world plus heavily subsidised by GoI), reduce petrol tax(if they reduce it, Delhi wont have any money for sure).
So who will provide fund for developments! I am happy that they have won 26 seats, but what they need is a strong economic vision.

Yes, but apparently the AAP seem to be reluctant to take power.. nobody wants the dehli throne I guess.

Its simple. IF they take power in Delhi, they cannot even fullfill half the promises they made.
Delhi will drain financially.

 

[Srinivas]

congress was already doomed so its basically BJP whom AAP gives the hard time.

In govt or out of govt AAP will have to prove itself by giving its allies a hard time on genuine issues

Congress is not doomed, congress ruled Delhi for 15 years. Simple rule is congress never dies in India, History has proven that, time and again congress bounced back.

 

[Bang Galore]

Kejriwal acts like a conservative guy, which I think is not good enough when it comes to political leadership.

I also think any change in India has to come for a decade or two in a slow and steady manner, Kejriwal's thinking of abrupt changes will only damage the existing fabric of Indian democracy.

Before bringing change one has to weigh positives and negatives, I think Kejriwal has not done that, in case of Lokpal bill.

I think in some case, changes necessarily have to be abrupt(otherwise will never happen) but Kejriwal's association with the Bhushans, especially Prashanth Bhushan is worrysome. Prashanth Bhushan has a almost anarchist view on a whole bunch of issues, including economic policy & national security. Kejriwal seems to follow that line most times.. How is his freebies any different from the Congress except that they might atleast have a plan to pay for it by economic growth while Kejriwal considers business as an enemy. He operates on a very simplistic plane. Most of the candidates may be ordinary people but do they actually have the ability to solve the problems or will they all be a convenient rubber stamp for Kejriwal & his coterie?

 

[WAR-rior]

get your facts right bro BJP is not a horse trader like congress remeber whaen first NDA govt fell by just 1 vote, well i know some so called "intellectuals" will never aknowledge that but try looking at work done under any BJP state and you will clearli be able to see a lot of difference specially after the ABV era

I totally agree for where you are hinting but trust me that wasnt BJP. That was the Great ABV. Even muslims adored him and BJP got so many muslim votes just on his name.

So lets not compare personality of ABV with that of other leaders of BJP. If not ABV, BJP has many times retorted to unfair means just to attain power. What do you think babri issue was? It was a political agenda. Uma Bharti was heard saying then, 'Agar ye imarat giri samjo bharat ki sarkar giri.' It was never a genuine Hindu Muslim riot but a manufactured one.

So the bottomline is, both Congress and BJP are soaked in wrong waters.

Regarding horse trading is concerned, do go into Karnataka politics to see what BJP state govt did.

Congress is not doomed, congress ruled Delhi for 15 years. Simple rule is congress never dies in India, History has proven that, time and again congress bounced back.

Coz they were against a religious party like BJP and even you know, communalism dont have long roots. But theis time they are against educated and common man sector which will never allow dynastic politics take ground again and unfortunately Congress cant go away with dynastic system. They tough are talking bout change in electoral processes within party but its not possible in true sense until pappu remains a PM candidate without any ground work.

 

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[WAR-rior]

for the first time in history of Indian democracy two largest parties BJP and AAP are contesting for who manage to sit in opposition.
If AAP really cared for the people of Delhi then they should come forward and try to form government and try to fulfill all those unrealistic promises they made to the masses. Right now whatever they are doing doesn't seem they are any different than traditional parties do for scoring political points.

And how should they TRY to make govt? By unfair means? Still you dint get the point? You still think politics is done to come in power and be ministers. Thats old, conventional style. New style is irrespective of opposition or govt, you work for betterment and doent matter who does it.

The whole reason why AAP entered politics or I wud say were forced to was to eradicate corruption. See the video I shared. Do u think Congress wud let JanLokpal Bill pass? They themself are under the guillotine.

Why shud anyone be shocked by this anti AAP propaganda? every point is refutable and doesnt make concrete sense.

I think in some case, changes necessarily have to be abrupt(otherwise will never happen) but Kejriwal's association with the Bhushans, especially Prashanth Bhushan is worrysome. Prashanth Bhushan has a almost anarchist view on a whole bunch of issues, including economic policy & national security. Kejriwal seems to follow that line most times.. How is his freebies any different from the Congress except that they might atleast have a plan to pay for it by economic growth while Kejriwal considers business as an enemy. He operates on a very simplistic plane. Most of the candidates may be ordinary people but do they actually have the ability to solve the problems or will they all be a convenient rubber stamp for Kejriwal & his coterie?

Why answer now when we have not questioned them yet. Lets see how they work. Then we will comment accordingly.

 

[Srinivas]

I think in some case, changes necessarily have to be abrupt(otherwise will never happen) but Kejriwal's association with the Bhushans, especially Prashanth Bhushan is worrysome. Prashanth Bhushan has a almost anarchist view on a whole bunch of issues, including economic policy & national security. Kejriwal seems to follow that line most times.. How is his freebies any different from the Congress except that they might atleast have a plan to pay for it by economic growth while Kejriwal considers business as an enemy. He operates on a very simplistic plane. Most of the candidates may be ordinary people but do they actually have the ability to solve the problems or will they all be a convenient rubber stamp for Kejriwal & his coterie?

It took almost 70 years to build democratic institutions, Kejrewal wants abrupt change to all of it, which is not good. Like a Lokpal above parliament , just like dictatorship.

I only wanted ideology of AAP to spread.

 

[Bang Galore]

Why answer now when we have not questioned them yet. Lets see how they work. Then we will comment accordingly.

I'm not going by how they will work but by what they say. Are you suggesting that there might be a difference between the two just like it is other parties?

 

[WAR-rior]

I'm not going by how they will work but by what they say. Are you suggesting that there might be a difference between the two just like it is other parties?

And I dint find any flaw in their saying. What they said is theoritical possible and practically difficult but possible. so lets see how they tackle this difficulty.

 

[livingdead]

And I dint find any flaw in their saying. What they said is theoritical possible and practically difficult but possible. so lets see how they tackle this difficulty.

most of what they say are rhetoric. Smart *** delhi kids used an old man to capture power, thats all. Look at how pretentious they are, "oh we started a party because peaceful revolution did not work, it was not our original intention"

I have more faith in entities like loksatta, who are genuine effort to give an alternative, without belittling all the political class.

 

[Contrarian]

Yes, but apparently the AAP seem to be reluctant to take power.. nobody wants the dehli throne I guess.

They want it, they dont have the numbers though.
BJP is 31
AAP is 28
Congress is 8

The required number is 36.
AAP is not willing to take Congress's support to form the Government.
They are not willing to give BJP support to form the Govt.
Congress is not willing to give BJP support to form the Govt.


BJP is scared to try and snatch AAP or Congress seat winners. If they do it and they get caught on TV trying to lure other party winners to BJP, they would face massive loss of credibility in Delhi. So BJP ruled that out.

So I think its going to be President's Rule for Delhi till Re-elections are held. Odds are AAP would come in a majority if there are re-elections.

 

[PoKeMon]

AAP is inspired by PTI.

Insulting AAP or crediting PTI?

Yes, but apparently the AAP seem to be reluctant to take power.. nobody wants the dehli throne I guess.

Thats not right @Oscar.

AAP is not in a condition to create a government and if they make government by taking a support from either BJP or Congress, the way they want to run the country would be compromised and on the mercy of other party.

They couldn't pass any bill which they want and congress/bjp will not allow anything to be passed which will land more than half of their leaders behind bars.

AAP rises on people need of an alternative, it will finish the day it compromises with BJP or Congress.

The mood in India is - AAP for Delhi and Modi for India. May be because AAP is not a strong alternative on national level.

 

[Srinivas]

Insulting AAP or crediting PTI?

That is not an insult for sure.......

How can AAP is for Delhi , when AAP is not in the power. How can they spread their ideology now beyond Delhi, where most of the people do not care about corruption??

Before AAP there is a party called LOKSATTA formed by retired IAS Jayaprakash Narayan with same kind of ideology. This party only wins one seat that too in Hyd, where educated core lives.