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Can you pin point problems with Being true Islamic Republic, not Dailymail junk real info with references.
Show me a real successful islamic republic
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Can you pin point problems with Being true Islamic Republic, not Dailymail junk real info with references.
Your hero should be the Suleiman the magnificent, NOT a secular Ataturk. Its a defeatist mentality to worship those who were hanging by straws as oppose to those who brought the glory in real terms. The two men were poles apart, Islamist Vs secularist. Sorry to burst your bubble from outside, the impression of Ataturk is of some one who made his country a sidekick of western civilization, far from being a pain the backside. Having said that, todays Turkey under current leadership is moving in right direction. That why its heartening to see that Turks have resisted this secular coup with full force.
Reading Quran, praying 5 times are individual acts, they are not related how the state should work. That is where the Islamic socialism or as they say "Sharia" (way of life) comes into play. It is the most misunderstood concept or shall I say, a deliberate confusion created around it. The best way to understand it, its to look and study how the first state in Madina functioned.
Turks were an empire when they had non secular people at helm, reduced to mere puppets of west by seculars who followed.
Why dont you explain to me out of your wisdom as to what a so called "Islamist" was doing sitting in the lap of yanks, who mind you wont spare any efforts to smoke out real Islamists working for political Islam in their respective regions, and his so called "Islamist" followers will coup for protecting Turkey "secular" credentials?
We in Pakistan can suss this bullsh|t from million miles, just because of what we have been through in past decade or so.
I really start believing in it because the way the coup troops acted make us think there were something fishy.
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The Islamic influence in Turkish government is nihil compared to fanatic American, European Christian givernmentsShow me a real successful islamic republic
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watch your mouth you are crossing my lineour hero should be the Suleiman the magnificent, NOT a secular Ataturk. Its a defeatist mentality to worship those who were hanging by straws as oppose to those who brought the glory in real terms.
You should stop learning Turkey from foreign propaganda media channels, with rhetoric slogans and labels.
Both Suleiman The Magnificent and Atatürk are our heroes. One made made the Empire reach its highest zenith and the other saved us from becoming second hand humans in our own heartland. I love and respect both of their memories ( but I worship neither), and any Turk that has a shred of respect and mercy would do the sameYour hero should be the Suleiman the magnificent, NOT a secular Ataturk. Its a defeatist mentality to worship those who were hanging by straws as oppose to those who brought the glory in real terms. The two men were poles apart, Islamist Vs secularist. Sorry to burst your bubble from outside, the impression of Ataturk is of some one who made his country a sidekick of western civilization, far from being a pain the backside. Having said that, todays Turkey under current leadership is moving in right direction. That why its heartening to see that Turks have resisted this secular coup with full force.
Reading Quran, praying 5 times are individual acts, they are not related how the state should work. That is where the Islamic socialism or as they say "Sharia" (way of life) comes into play. It is the most misunderstood concept or shall I say, a deliberate confusion created around it. The best way to understand it, its to look and study how the first state in Madina functioned.
so true. There was piece in Fox News titled something like :Turkey Lost Its Last Hope...or something like that.And yet this is well and good in all western media. They (USA, France, Germany etc…) are extremely sad coup's failure.
The Islamic influence in Turkish government is nihil compared to fanatic American, European Christian givernments
I really start believing in it because the way the coup troops acted make us think there were something fishy.
Sultan Suleiman is overrated as fuckk. Selim the Grim was the man with ballz of steel(if you look past his whole anti-shia policies he is a pretty nice guy .Your hero should be the Suleiman the magnificent, NOT a secular Ataturk. Its a defeatist mentality to worship those who were hanging by straws as oppose to those who brought the glory in real terms. The two men were poles apart, Islamist Vs secularist. Sorry to burst your bubble but from outside, the impression of Ataturk is of some one who made his country a sidekick of western civilization, far from being a pain the backside. Having said that, todays Turkey under current leadership is moving in right direction. That why its heartening to see that Turks have resisted this secular coup with full force.
Reading Quran, praying 5 times are individual acts, they are not related how the state should work. That is where the Islamic socialism or as they say "Sharia" (way of life) comes into play. It is the most misunderstood concept or shall I say, a deliberate confusion created around it. The best way to understand it, its to look and study how the first state in Madina functioned.
Good explanation! Appreciated!
Actually the like of yours make our world pathetic I don't need to read your gibberish and none sense when men talk kids like shut up, listen and be polite you parrot.The cast of your mind makes me laugh and consider the likes of you as pathetic.. You dont have control over your brain...
You cant even analyze the situation correctly... If you are not aware of whats going on, just shut up and read to learn the facts.