So Much Freedom Of Expression Facebook? Huh?

[TurAr]

So them being a symbol of freedom of expression means other lives in other countries is worthless?

If there is a suicide bombing in Turkey killing 17, I'm sure no one will stand up in UNSC to sympathize with you, because your blood is worthless compared to them.

Do you know what's more funny? Many European countries and US have a footstep in all the bloodshed in region. Who attacked Iraq and Afghanistan? Didn't the 2003 invasion put the foundations of IS in Iraq?

If they were all innocent, I'd have no problem, but it's pure hypocrisy that their role in terrorism around the world is always ignored. I mean aren't you the same one who complains Europe hosting PKK and supporting them?

Is that a feeling of inferiority looking at Europe or what?

I'm talking about their internal social and political system. Comparing how Western governments sees their citizens to how totalitarian Islamic regimes sees their subjects. Comparing how Western citizens sees each other to how Islamists sees each other. I didn't say anything about their adventures in Third World, nor did I defend it.

What I'm saying is, your life is more valuable in a Western country. You are less likely to die there due to attack or due to some BS reason like an open manhole. There are strict rules and regulations to ensure your safety in every aspect, be it in traffic, food hygiene, cosmetics, etc... So unlike countries like ours, deaths because of terror or negligence is someting extraordinary in West, hence their extraordinary responses to them.

So yeah, even according to our own governments, our lives are worthless. That is why hundreds of people dies unnaturally and mostly because of terror everyday in Islamic countries and it has become something normal even for us. Expecting minute of silence from UN for each terrorist attack and for each tragedy is unrealistic. Because they are way too common in our part of the world and we are to be blamed for that. Of course we can continue to blame the juice and evil murica for all of our misfortunes instead of doing something about them. But I rather my country not waste any time.

 

[Steve781]

So them being a symbol of freedom of expression means other lives in other countries is worthless?

If there is a suicide bombing in Turkey killing 17, I'm sure no one will stand up in UNSC to sympathize with you, because your blood is worthless compared to them.

Do you know what's more funny? Many European countries and US have a footstep in all the bloodshed in region. Who attacked Iraq and Afghanistan? Didn't the 2003 invasion put the foundations of IS in Iraq?

If they were all innocent, I'd have no problem, but it's pure hypocrisy that their role in terrorism around the world is always ignored. I mean aren't you the same one who complains Europe hosting PKK and supporting them?

Is that a feeling of inferiority looking at Europe or what?

What terrorist organisations does France support? Hamas, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad?
Did they pioneer hostage taking by armed militias in Lebanon in the 1980s? Bomb a Jewish cultural centre in Buenos Aires?

 

[Porus]

It is easier to change yourself than others, or probably not? People in our part of the world need to know the long war Europe fought against the tyranny of its Catholic Church, they don't have a fond memories of their religious past. Famous thinkers and writers like Voltaire used satire to severely criticize the rulers and clergy of his time. The poor man lived most of his life hiding from his enemies. When he died he was refused christian burial in Paris and only during the French Revolution the National Assembly brought back his remains to Pantheon. Because of their past, Europeans are afraid of any kind of organized religion whose followers can use violence to spread their message. Making cartoons may be wrong but you just cannot go and kill the satirists. Instead of Europe the Muslims should change themselves which will do more good to them.

 

[Steve781]

I'm talking about their internal social and political system. Comparing how Western governments sees their citizens to how totalitarian Islamic regimes sees their subjects. Comparing how Western citizens sees each other to how Islamists sees each other. I didn't say anything about their adventures in Third World, nor did I defend it.

What I'm saying is, your life is more valuable in a Western country. You are less likely to die there due to attack or due to some BS reason like an open manhole. There are strict rules and regulations to ensure your safety in every aspect, be it in traffic, food hygiene, cosmetics, etc... So unlike countries like ours, deaths because of terror or negligence is someting extraordinary in West, hence their extraordinary responses to them.

So yeah, even according to our own governments, our lives are worthless. That is why hundreds of people dies unnaturally and mostly because of terror everyday in Islamic countries and it has become something normal even for us. Expecting minute of silence from UN for each terrorist attack and for each tragedy is unrealistic. Because they are way too common in our part of the world and we are to be blamed for that. Of course we can continue to blame the juice and evil murica for all of our misfortunes instead of doing something about them. But I rather my country not waste any time.

The reason Westerners care more about the dead in France than the dead in Lebanon yesterday is because they are fellow Westerners. Of course in an ideal world all innocent lives would be mourned equally but we don't live in an ideal world. It is a fact of life that people care more about those they can identify with than those they can't. It isn't only a Western attitude.

 

[ganesh177]

isn't this a Pakistani Forum?

Yes thats what he is saying. Stay here and dont travel to his nation.

I guess the next time a woman complains of harassment at workplace our response ought to be 'so don't work there' !

Yes if that lady is complaining about the lady next to her who is executing her fundamental rights, then the first lady should not work there who could not bear with the fundamental rights and thinks it as a harrassment.