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Slackistan the Movie.

People here are interested in seeing an Islamic country as it IS not as some government censors or mullahs want us to see it so there's a hunger. For those from there it's nothing new. For the rest of us it sure as hell is absolutely new.

I've caught hints of that whole scene here at def.pk but this is designed to drive it home.
My friend, you are most welcome to watch this movie. I will too as I'd like to see how the other side lives. However, please don't get the idea that this movie represents the "norm" or the "average" in Pakistan. The director himself has claimed that he focused on the minority "privileged youth" of Pakistan who seem to be cut-off from the rest of the country's headaches. If you want a comparison, this movie chooses to focus on Pakistan's version of the "me" generation of the 70s in the US, not the ambitious and motivated 60s generation. We, too, have some very motivated youth in Pakistan, though they have never seemed to unite towards a single goal.

My point being, I have no problems with the content of this movie. However, I am afraid that those who watch this movie will assume this is how young life is in Pakistan. I can assure you, for about 90% of us, it's vastly different.
 
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"However, please don't get the idea that this movie represents the "norm" or the "average" in Pakistan."

My friend, whatever gave you the impression I might? Don't you think I can recognize idle wealth when I see it?:lol:

Thanks.:usflag:
 
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Another Documentary about pakistan.


Shows a much different side
 
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if you turn the tv ON..... you see Bomb blast, terrorists, corruption, electricity, sugar, gas and wheat crisis TV OFF

If you go in Pakistan its very different........ you see the above culture in Lahore, Karachi, Islamabad and few other major cities and not like that but highly pro-western culture in other parts of the country........but very nice and loving peoples

I live in Gujrat, a very small city of Pakistan who have been the centre of Politics (2 Prime Ministers and other famous politicians belong to Gujrat) and Army (from 11 Nishane-e-Haider holders 4 of them belong to Gujrat).

If you ever visit that city, u find Big Shopping centres, every second girl possesing Mobile phones, boys having girl friends and instead of that Salwar Kameez 90% of the college students always wearing highly influenced western clothes.

Welcome to Pakistan
 
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You see that in such minorities in the big cities and even in certain smaller towns. It's unfortunate that the majority of the so-called "elite class" thinks that modernization and westernization are the same thing. These people who think that if you want to look "cool", put on an "I heart NY" t-shirt with baggy shorts, and laugh at anyone wearing a shalwar kameez. They end up looking like "dhobi ka" doggy, neither here not there. You see this phenomenon eating up culture in Indian cities (as represented in Bollywood), and I'm afraid it'll take over Pakistan soon as well.

Pakistan seems to be represented only by its extremes, no matter how unpopular they are. There is one extreme that you see on TV, where people who are against any sort of socio-economic growth, technological or political advancement etc. are hell bent on destroying anything that represents modernism and want to plunge the country into pre-historic days in the name of religion. There is, however, another extreme, the one that is invisible to the outsiders but is very visible to us Pakistanis, and one that I personally find threatening to our country as well. This extreme believes that in order to achieve any type of growth, we must sell our values in the bazar. These are the so-called "enlightened moderates" and they represent stubborn secularism (i.e., not the secularism found in Canada, but the kind found in France, Germany etc.) to distance Pakistan from its founding ideology. These people want to be perceived as "enlightened", and hence, try their best to blend into foreign cultures when they are abroad. Unfortunately, once they've completely destroyed their identities ans self-worth, they import this thinking into Pakistan and pretend that "this is the way of life". In the name of freedom, they turn into non-Pakistanis. However, their farce is far from convincing and they are, generally, worthless to the rest of Pakistan. Both these extremes are recognized in our society as minorities, and I find it appalling that the middle ground, the one that the majority of Pakistan prefers, gets absolutely no recognition outside the country.

We can keep with the teachings of our religion and sustain our culture and modernize all at the same time. Lack of moral character is not a prerequisite for technological advancements and socio-economic growth, and neither is abandoning modernism a requirement in our religious beliefs. What we don't understand is that self-identity, culture etc. aren't just what foreigners can purchase at the corner-store, it is us. Absolutely no great nation became so by abandoning their identity or by sacrificing their desire for advancement. These things must go hand-in-hand.

I'm sorry for the rant. I generally don't speak on this issue because many here on PDF could find it offensive, but this thread served the best avenue for me to let my opinions known. Please feel free to disagree.
 
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^^ PAFAce, sir you have my high regards and respects, i in million times couldnt have said it better

best regards
 
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OK, I finished reading each and every post (except of certain foreigner’s as this is not their businesses) of this thread and I understand that this movie is about the ‘problems’ of the kids from the privileged class. I don’t like to associate myself with that class and that’s exactly what I did soon after I completed my formal education and left my Dad’s house. Though I do remember my days when even to go to the University (which was only couple of miles away from my Dad’s residence) I would use his staff car. This is but an example of how the national resources were and still are being misused and how a small so-called privileged class is preventing the fair distribution of wealth and resources equally among the various socio-economical classes of Pakistan. I also remember the official and private parties where the liquor was freely available even during Zia’s so-called Islamic regime since the law for the powerful and common Pakistani people was and still is different.

How this movie will be taken by the privileged class is understandable but what will happen to the poor and under-privileged and oppressed people of Pakistan after watching this? To the unlucky insects who, liquor aside, don’t even have access to the clean drinking water? This movie is about the ‘problems’ of the those rich kids, what about the problems of the poor kids who’s very existence has transformed from the blessing of Allah into a curse of his? A bloody revolution is indeed on the doorsteps of Pakistan but by making such movies, are we trying to accelerate that process?
 
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Anyone hear of this tv-film yet? I'm looking forward to watching it but I can't seem to find a release date.
 
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A bloody revolution is indeed on the doorsteps of Pakistan but by making such movies, are we trying to accelerate that process?
It's just a movie, sir. The director's objectives are clear, he wants to show the "other side" of Pakistani society. This does not necessarily mean the "everyday side" or the "reality", but the "other extreme" if you will. It's a movie and its purpose is to make money, plain and simple. Whether or not the content of the movie is worthy of debate can only be decided by watching the film. I will do so, and then we can discuss it in detail.

Though the point you've raised about the misuse of power and privilege in Pakistan is very valid. It all comes from a lack of accountability, which stems from, as you said, different laws for different classes. This newly re-energized Judiciary has taken some steps towards ending that, but the ultimate responsibility lies on us. We cannot keep electing these kleptocrats to power. I think the time for a bloodless revolution is not entirely up yet, but it seems a bloody one will be necessary soon.
 
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Bunch of white washed guys who don't Jack about what Pakistan is really about, desperately trying to make a piece of tape hoping to display some originally in this painfully wannabe production.. Nuff said
 
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"...white-washed..."?

Westernized almost certainly but look around you in Canada and then ask yourself the accuracy of such an assessment. If westernized, you couldn't be sure from where they draw their influences-at least not from the trailer. Even then they'd only represent a sub-set of a larger group that might borrow influences from beyond a white society. Hip-hop culture in America, for instance, is a broad phenomenon but clearly borrows its roots from an African-American perspective and urban at that.

I'd ask you to take care letting your own racial excesses bleed forth if you wouldn't mind.

Thanks.:usflag:
 
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Bunch of white washed guys who don't Jack about what Pakistan is really about, desperately trying to make a piece of tape hoping to display some originally in this painfully wannabe production.. Nuff said

This is funny coming from the dude who lives in Canada. How about you go back and live in Pakistan before you make fun of people who are trying to attain the same lifestyle as yourself.

Ultra low class would be better ....

Listen everyone clearly According to the constitution of Pakistan the Alcohol is Banned so is its advertisement and makes me think The this movie is a clear violation of the national constitution .

These guys who are " openly drinking" in a movie which would be watched by the Youth of Islamic republic of Pakistan should be brought to justice and must be Punished & the movie Must cut these scenes too because it can lead Pakistani youth to the use of Alcohol .

These " Sharabis " do not represent our National image we must weed out these " evils " from our society and not let them drink and feel proud of going against the National constitution and making fun of it.. .


" Pakistan. Since 1977, only non-Muslim groups such as Christians, Zoroastrians and Hindus are permitted to apply for alcohol permits in Pakistan. The monthly allotment usually depends on income but it is typically 100 bottles of beer or 5 bottles of liquor.

Enforced by Pakistan's Islamic Ideology Council, the ban is strictly enforced. "

BTW its not a feature film but a tele film.
Regards::pakistan:

Oh please, live and let live, their alcohol usage has nothing to do with you. Don't get your islamist panties in a bunch.

BATMAN listen : I am a bit straight forward , I think if something is wrong then it is Wrong !!! it must not be done at all.

And Alcoholism is in hiding for now in Pakistan , if you want a great future for this Nation do not Let it come to the Streets but the Question is -- IF---

Alcohol is haram and banned by law so there is no excuse and i think they must be Punished balki inki " Litar parade honi chahiye "

I even think Cigarettes should not be displayed on the shops but they Must be kept under the counters and in the storage and must be sold on when needed basis.

I have once saw a Punjabi movie trailer that was about 6 years back , i think those must be Banned too...

If you say bro that one evil is happening in the streets so we should allow the second one too.. i am afraid i will say NO!!

Corruption must be fought against but alcohol too because i dont want Pakistan to " Assman main gira khajoor main atka "

Regards:

Yeah. Woman should be banned too. Women are bad. And Christianity too! and Jews! and no more stars in public places, as they are associated with Zionism!
 
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"...white-washed..."?

Westernized almost certainly but look around you in Canada and then ask yourself the accuracy of such an assessment. If westernized, you couldn't be sure from where they draw their influences-at least not from the trailer. Even then they'd only represent a sub-set of a larger group that might borrow influences from beyond a white society. Hip-hop culture in America, for instance, is a broad phenomenon but clearly borrows its roots from an African-American perspective and urban at that.

I'd ask you to take care letting your own racial excesses bleed forth if you wouldn't mind.

Thanks.:usflag:

Eh I have no problems with white people or any other race mate, however I hate wannabes and that's what these people are.. And they're trying to portray a culture that is anything but that. Whitewashed is a new slang here for people who dont really know Jack about western culture or ther own culture and just miserably try to be wannabes. It's just pathetic, I'm not a racist dude :cheers:
 
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Eh I have no problems with white people or any other race mate, however I hate wannabes and that's what these people are.. And they're trying to portray a culture that is anything but that. Whitewashed is a new slang here for people who dont really know Jack about western culture or ther own culture and just miserably try to be wannabes. It's just pathetic, I'm not a racist dude :cheers:

Ever considered that these people might not be wannabes, but actually enjoy the western culture?

Culture and religion, unlike ethnicity, is something we choose, not inherit. If these youngsters have chosen western culture, and do not adhere to their religious principles, its their personal choice. People should be free to choose their culture and religion, rather than having it imposed on them. Then only will they learn to respect that culture and religion.
 
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