Six supporters of hardline Indonesian cleric killed in shootout

[KurtisBrian]

evil thugs have a habit of wanton killing of those who get in their way.

Spy vs Spy

 

[NiceDay]

Look like you want to refer to CNN Indonesia and CNBC Indonesia ?

That is collaboration, not controlled by US media. The editors and producers are all Indonesian.

CNN Indonesia

History
Businessman Chairul Tanjung announced the birth of a strategic partnership between WarnerMedia and Trans Media to launch a CNN-branded channel in Indonesia.[2] CNN Indonesia began as an online portal, CNNIndonesia.com, on 24 October 2014 with Yusuf Arifin as editor in chief. It made its soft launching as a news channel in conjunction with the 70th anniversary of the country's Proclamation of Independence on 17 August 2015; official launch of the local franchise was held in conjunction with Trans Media's 14th anniversary on 15 December 2015.

CNN Indonesia - Wikipedia

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CNBC Indonesia

History
Businessman Chairul Tanjung announced the birth of a strategic partnership between NBCUniversal and Trans Media to launch a CNBC-branded channel in Indonesia.[2] CNBC Indonesia was soft-launched as an online business news portal in the Indonesian language on 8 February 2018[3] and was officially launched as a business news channel on 10 October 2018.

In early February 2020, the channel launched its own HD feed on the Telkom 4 Merah Putih satellite.[4]

CNBC Indonesia - Wikipedia

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Chaerul Tanjung (Indonesian)

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Others mainstream Indonesia News Media outlet

Metro TV owner = Surya Paloh (Indonesian)

Surya Paloh

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TV One owner = Bakrie Group (Indonesian)

Anindya Bakrie

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Kompas TV owner : Jakob Oetama

Jakob Oetama (Indonesian)
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The majority of Indonesian media write articles on international relations by taking sources from western countries. this making more and more people in Indonesia antipathy to everything related to Chinese language and culture. And Western also promote South Korean Pop culture as an alternative because South Korea is an ally of the West

Amazon Alexa

www.alexa.com

Rank
5.Detik.com
26.CNNIndonesia.com
both are one group of companies and have the same policies (When writing news about China they always quote news sources from western media)

6. Kompas.com owned by the Christian group no wonder they are Pro
Hong Kong demonstrators

metrotvnews.com isn't popular
(ranked under the top 50)

Owner of Metro TV.
Seeing from his face and his closeness to Chinese Indonesia, I guess he still has Pakistani descent.
Maybe he wants to reduce the influence of indian pop culture diplomacy
in Indonesia.

 

[Indos]

The majority of Indonesian media write articles on international relations by taking sources from western countries. this making more and more people in Indonesia antipathy to everything related to Chinese language and culture. And Western also promote South Korean Pop culture as an alternative because South Korea is an ally of the West

Amazon Alexa

www.alexa.com

Rank
5.Detik.com
26.CNNIndonesia.com
both are one group of companies and have the same policies (When writing news about China they always quote news sources from western media)

6. Kompas.com owned by the Christian group no wonder they are Pro
Hong Kong demonstrators

metrotvnews.com isn't popular
(ranked under the top 50)

Owner of Metro TV.
Seeing from his face and his closeness to Chinese Indonesia, I guess he still has Pakistani descent.
Maybe he wants to reduce the influence of indian pop culture diplomacy
in Indonesia.

Metro TV is popular for News TV as most Indonesian get news in majority from television, not websites. All others are also popular in YT channel and it include CNBC Indonesia and viva that is also owned by Bakrie Group.

CNN Indonesia, TV One, Metro TV are very popular and Kompas TV may also be popular but they come late and yes Kompas TV is Christian backing media and most Indonesia already know that.

Acehnese has Arab/Persian/Turkish/South Asian mix so it is not surprise to see Acehnese look like that and we have many Arab descend as well in Indonesian since ancient time and until recent migrant (during Dutch colonization).

 

[Place Of Space]

The majority of Indonesian media write articles on international relations by taking sources from western countries. this making more and more people in Indonesia antipathy to everything related to Chinese language and culture. And Western also promote South Korean Pop culture as an alternative because South Korea is an ally of the West

Amazon Alexa

www.alexa.com

Rank
5.Detik.com
26.CNNIndonesia.com
both are one group of companies and have the same policies (When writing news about China they always quote news sources from western media)

6. Kompas.com owned by the Christian group no wonder they are Pro
Hong Kong demonstrators

metrotvnews.com isn't popular
(ranked under the top 50)

Owner of Metro TV.
Seeing from his face and his closeness to Chinese Indonesia, I guess he still has Pakistani descent.
Maybe he wants to reduce the influence of indian pop culture diplomacy
in Indonesia.

That's not bad. It is the best they becomes most pure Muslims like ISIS dream Islam land. Christians and Muslims have a thousand year conflicts, this core contradictions can't move away because of China. You can be rest assured. They just fear the West power, hide the hatred for the time being. As long as China has nukes, Indons won't challenge us.

 

[striver44]

As long as China has nukes, Indons won't challenge us.

Don't worry, once the time comes we will unleash our secret weapons upon china.

 

[comci]

I hope Indonesians pull the pogrom cards again against the ethnic chinese indonesians. After all third time is the charm. Lets see what PRC, Taiwan and oversea chinese reaction will be. I know many chinese indonesians who will flee the country if given any chance. In the ''60. ''70 and ''80, it is quite common to see chinese men from hong kong, taiwan and singapore to look for chinese wife in Indonesia or Brunei (another muslim fanatic country based on sharia law country). My uncle from hong kong is married with my aunt for 50 years now. She is ethnic chinese from Indonesia. She is always updated about the current political situation in Indonesia because of her relatives in Indonesia. Most Indonesians are muslims and irrational bunch who is passionate islamists. One could see them as more arabs than the arabs themselves. Quite an ironic considering the facts arabs looks down on indos. Indos poster might want challenges this narratives, but as someone who knows a lot about Indonesia more than one could imagine, i would say, stop your propaganda and lies. You can fool outsiders, but not me. My advise to the ethnic chinese is to migrate to other non muslim country if the option is availbe. Better be safe than sory. I know it is not easy.

 

[striver44]

You're talking as if we wanted them to come here in the first place lmao, go back to your motherland.

 

[comci]

You're talking as if we wanted them to come here in the first place lmao, go back to your motherland.

your wish will be your command. give it times, will ye?

 

[Indos]

@NiceDay You know CNN International has much fair editorial views regarding to Anti Chinese sentiment in USA than media like Fox News right ???

Most Indonesians are muslims and irrational bunch who is passionate islamists. One could see them as more arabs than the arabs themselves. Quite an ironic considering the facts arabs looks down on indos. Indos poster might want challenges this narratives, but as someone who knows a lot about Indonesia more than one could imagine, i would say, stop your propaganda and lies. You can fool outsiders, but not me. My advise to the ethnic chinese is to migrate to other non muslim country if the option is availbe. Better be safe than sory. I know it is not easy.

Indonesian loves on Islam doesnt have anything to do with Arab perception on us. It only has the relation with our God perception. The highest people in the sight of God is the one who is the most "taqwa"

Taqwa meaning:

forbearance, fear and abstinence

The Arabic word taqwa means "forbearance, fear and abstinence." Some descriptions of the term from Islamic sources include: "God consciousness ... piousness, fear of Allah, love for Allah, and self restraint". "God-consciousness or God-fearing piety", "virtue", "wariness

Another one:

Many native Indonesian also has many prophet descend and they dont consider themselves as Arab Indonesian as they already look like native and the relation is quite ancient. In Western Sumatra alone we have people with Sayyid title but it only happened in the past. Only recent Arab immigrant who still consider themselves as Arab Indonesian.

Actually one of the first women who like me was white skin pretty Arab Indonesian and she keep following me for years during junior and high schools (she is two years younger than me) and unfortunately I love her friend more, a Sundanese ethnic (native Indonesian) which I see as more beautiful than her and also like me as she did.

The last romance that I had also with Arab Indonesian women and for your information it was her who initiated it although I am the one who ask for her handphone number first in the elevator since she always like to accompany me every time I want to enter an empty elevator.

This is her

 

[Menthol]

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I like it very much the quote.

It's actually has a very deep meaning.

Basically, it's the behavior of a man who has done what the holy book has said.


The goal of any religious person.

 

[Indos]

I like it very much the quote.

It's actually has a very deep meaning.

Basically, it's the behavior of a man who has done what the holy book has said.


The goal of any religious person.

That is correct, there is another one here, it is also a strong hadith as hadith from Bukhari and Muslim are regarded as strong.

 

[Menthol]

That is correct, there is another one here, it is also a strong hadith as hadith from Bukhari and Muslim are regarded as strong.

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True!

A human has many faces.

A face for the public, another face for friends, family, wives, and yourself.

In the public, you pretend to be a good person, polite, patient, etc.

Friendly and exciting to your friends.

But act like a demon to your family, because you can't pretend to be a good person all the time.

Somehow the real you must be shown.

Some people say that is the real you.


And a face for yourself is a face that you never say to anyone. The inner you, all the sadness, anger, dream, etc.


All religions teach us to be good people.

People who able to defeat and conquer themselves, become a winner as good people.


The good people who have a bright aura, like there's a bright white light coming out of his face and body.

A mature man, but has a face like a child, pure, innocent, friendly, happy, satisfied, etc.

His eyes are so soft, full of compassion, understanding, and forgiveness, etc.

We love to be near such people, I don't know why, but our instinct can tell they are good people, we will safe and can be very relaxed around them.

 

[comci]

@NiceDay You know CNN International has much fair editorial views regarding to Anti Chinese sentiment in USA than media like Fox News right ???



Indonesian loves on Islam doesnt have anything to do with Arab perception on us. It only has the relation with our God perception. The highest people in the sight of God is the one who is the most "taqwa"

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Taqwa meaning:

forbearance, fear and abstinence

The Arabic word taqwa means "forbearance, fear and abstinence." Some descriptions of the term from Islamic sources include: "God consciousness ... piousness, fear of Allah, love for Allah, and self restraint". "God-consciousness or God-fearing piety", "virtue", "wariness

Another one:

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Many native Indonesian also has many prophet descend and they dont consider themselves as Arab Indonesian as they already look like native and the relation is quite ancient. In Western Sumatra alone we have people with Sayyid title but it only happened in the past. Only recent Arab immigrant who still consider themselves as Arab Indonesian.

Actually one of the first women who like me was white skin pretty Arab Indonesian and she keep following me for years during junior and high schools (she is two years younger than me) and unfortunately I love her friend more, a Sundanese ethnic (native Indonesian) which I see as more beautiful than her and also like me as she did.

The last romance that I had also with Arab Indonesian women and for your information it was her who initiated it although I am the one who ask for her handphone number first in the elevator since she always like to accompany me every time I want to enter an empty elevator.

This is her

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I dont understand what your own personal love story has to to do with the average indo muslims feelings towards the arabs(worshipping mode) and ethnic chinese (negative feelings).

 

[Song Hong]

Crazy to fight for religion. President must be nuts. I wouldnt shed any blood for anyone who claim to be speak on behalf of God.

Religion are superstition.

Islam has gone very deep in Indonesia and it is why this general said in front of our President, Jokowi, during the officers graduation day (2020) that Indonesian Armed Force fight for religion first, after that the nation interest follow

This is Indonesian officer cadet for Army and his FB profile

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[Indos]

That's interesting. All not person regard mother more than father. You are a good son.

Yup, regarding mother highly is common within Indonesian Muslim community

This is for example during Armed Force officer graduation day

Beside in Hadith, there is also Quran verses saying similar thing

QS; Lukman verse 14

Hadith:

It was narrated from Mu'awiyah bin Jahimah As-Sulami, that Jahimah came to the Prophet (ﷺ) and said:
"O Messenger of Allah! I want to go out and fight (in Jihad) and I have come to ask your advice." He said: "Do you have a mother?" He said: "Yes." He said: "Then stay with her, for Paradise is beneath her feet."

أَخْبَرَنَا عَبْدُ الْوَهَّابِ بْنُ عَبْدِ الْحَكَمِ الْوَرَّاقُ، قَالَ حَدَّثَنَا حَجَّاجٌ، عَنِ ابْنِ جُرَيْجٍ، قَالَ أَخْبَرَنِي مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ طَلْحَةَ، - وَهُوَ ابْنُ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ - عَنْ أَبِيهِ، طَلْحَةَ عَنْ مُعَاوِيَةَ بْنِ جَاهِمَةَ السُّلَمِيِّ، أَنَّ جَاهِمَةَ، جَاءَ إِلَى النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم فَقَالَ يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ أَرَدْتُ أَنْ أَغْزُوَ وَقَدْ جِئْتُ أَسْتَشِيرُكَ ‏.‏ فَقَالَ ‏"‏ هَلْ لَكَ مِنْ أُمٍّ ‏"‏ ‏.‏ قَالَ نَعَمْ ‏.‏ قَالَ ‏"‏ فَالْزَمْهَا فَإِنَّ الْجَنَّةَ تَحْتَ رِجْلَيْهَا ‏"‏ ‏.‏

Grade

: Sahih (Darussalam)

Reference	: Sunan an-Nasa'i 3104
In-book reference	: Book 25, Hadith 20
English translation	: Vol. 1, Book 25, Hadith 3106

Sunan an-Nasa'i 3104 - The Book of Jihad - Sunnah.com - Sayings and Teachings of Prophet Muhammad (صلى الله عليه و سلم)

It was narrated from Mu'awiyah bin Jahimah As-Sulami, that Jahimah came to the Prophet (ﷺ) and said: "O Messenger of Allah! I want to go out and fight (in Jihad) and I have come to ask your advice." He said: "Do you have a mother?" He said: "Yes." He said: "Then stay with her, for Paradise is bene

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@dbc I think as a women you should know this as well......