Sikh beating

[uparyupari]

Yes but majority of wars were against muslim invaders & majority sacrifices were for hindus.
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The sacrifices were for your own kind, not hindus. I doubt they were narrow minded enough to see "hindus". They were Hindus.

 

[Jaat Rock]

Unfortunately there are many this type of videos on social media. Main reason for this violence is politics & government's loose attitude towards both radical Khalistanis & anti sikh Deras.

Yeah i know that, But are they really beating these people because they worship Hindu gods too??

 

[SarthakGanguly]

LOL. So you admit it is Running away.

Every state need not be Gujarat, people migrate interstate for work all the time. People even go abroad to work, make money and then come back to India.

They spend that money in India and make India a better place. Not cowards who run away to life off someone else's hard work by abandoning his own.

What is so funny about poverty and red tape? Punjabis, both Sikhs and Hindus are simple hard-working people. They both emigrate in large numbers. Your facts are correct to an extent, but conclusions you derive are too simplistic.

 

[uparyupari]

What is so funny about poverty and red tape? Punjabis, both Sikhs and Hindus are simple hard-working people. They both emigrate in large numbers. Your facts are correct to an extent, but conclusions you derive are too simplistic.

There is nothing funny about poverty and red tape, but there is something funny about running away from it and then boasting of courage.

Most Indians are simple hard working people. Nothing special about Punjabis. Their emigration has more to do with their history of loyalty and service to the british and the benefits they enjoyed, than to anything else. White worship has been too deeply engrained into their social and collective psyche.

The facts and history is what it is. What other concussion can you draw ?

 

[SarthakGanguly]

The sacrifices were for your own kind, not hindus. I doubt they were narrow minded enough to see "hindus". They were Hindus.

Absolute lie. Their campaigns against the Hindu chiefs of the Mughals were for a reason. Plus, they fought against the Muslim rulers to a large extent because they were absolute tyrants. The Sikh empire even came to an understanding with the Marathas after the latter had taken Delhi.

 

[uparyupari]

Absolute lie. Their campaigns against the Hindu chiefs of the Mughals were for a reason. Plus, they fought against the Muslim rulers to a large extent because they were absolute tyrants. The Sikh empire even came to an understanding with the Marathas after the latter had taken Delhi.

I said they were Hindus, where does history see them as something else ? What evidence is there that shows they did not see themselves as hindus ? @Anonymous has already posted facts about it earlier.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

There is nothing funny about poverty and red tape, but there is something funny about running away from it and then boasting of courage.

Most Indians are simple hard working people. Nothing special about Punjabis. Their emigration has more to do with their history of loyalty and service to the british and the benefits they enjoyed, than to anything else. White worship has been too deeply engrained into their social and collective psyche.

The facts and history is what it is. What other concussion can you draw ?

Those who run away don't boast. Or if they do, they are ignored. Those are brave who have shed more blood than any other for this country. A disproportionate number of them are Sikhs.

Fighting with the British was a pragmatic choice since 1857. They had their reasons to not support the nascent Bahadur Shah Zafar. Plus, there have been many freedom fighters from that region. Sikhs and Hindus. They have been eclipsed by the Nehru dynasty but they were there.
White worship is a problem all of India suffers from. Don't confuse Sikhs with Khalistanis. The Punjab insurgency was put down by the Punjab police unlike Kashmir, NE etc where the contribution of the Army was almost everything. Blue Star was a single event. Otherwise it was entirely handled by KPS Gill.

 

[Juggernautjatt]

The sacrifices were for your own kind, not hindus. I doubt they were narrow minded enough to see "hindus". They were Hindus.

Please google incident of kashmiri pandits & guru tegh bahadur. I don't have time to teach history to religious & radical blinds.

Yeah i know that, But are they really beating these people because they worship Hindu gods too??

I don't think they are beating them for worshipping hindu gods maybe the matter is something else. In Punjab many Sikhs regularly visit hindu temples everyday. Many Hindus also regularly visit gurudwaras. It is only radicals & also some deras creating problems

 

[SarthakGanguly]

I said they were Hindus, where does history see them as something else ? What evidence is there that shows they did not see themselves as hindus ? @Anonymous has already posted facts about it earlier.

I never said otherwise. Even Jodhabai's father was a Hindu. I think you will get my point.

 

[deckingraj]

Well need to nail your lies and need to show you a mirror...so guess what, have to waste my time...can't help...

YOU are the one who started boasting about "heroics of sikhs" and now are refuting that argument. RUNNING away again

If you don't know how to apply brain then it is not my problem...Where am i refuting about heroics of sikhs....however you spinned the argument and made it appear as if i am claiming that other's don't have heroes...this is what i clarified...I still stand by what i said...Sikh history is full of martydom and supremem sacrifices for country and her people even though they may belong to some other religions...I don't want to fill all those unparalleled events in Sikh History because forget history with your zilch level of knowledge even expecting info about present might be too much....Still I will sum up this with just one line...

"Sikh regiment is the highest decorated regiment in Indian Army"...Given you love the percentages, my advice don't try them here...you may end up having a rude shock

Calling me childish name will not take away the fact that you are now retracting your own boast and are reduced to shouting impotent abuses.

It was not childish abuse...these are hard core facts...you are a brain dead moron...period ....

Now that we have established that Sikhs are less Patriotic and more likely to run away than Non sikhs (6.3 times more likely) , you should shut your trap and stop embarrassing your community more by your stupidity.

Heights of stupidity....and then you were complaining about abuses...As per you 2+ crore people who have left country are people who ran away from their country.....these are stats....i can also spin them like - for every 1 less patriotic sikh there are 9 less patriotic non-sikhs...spinning stats as per own convenience won't change anything...fact is living/settling outside your country has nothing to do with patriotism/running away...Such primitive thought process and that too in such a global world makes me wonder what sh1t hole are you living in.....Just to quote an example - when our country was under sanctions during 99 then it is the same diaspora that saved your a$$ by the means of remittance...so calling them "run aways" or less patriotic is big talk for midget brain moron like you....

You want to point to the virtue of how and why running away is good for India, do so. Just don't expect me to be sympathetic to your cause.

Another moronic attempt to spin the argument....I said even after such difficult times a whopping 90% are staying in India yet you come up with that ... ...and b/w i don't expect anything from you...it is wrong to expect anything from a brain dead moron

 

[uparyupari]

Those who run away don't boast. Or if they do, they are ignored. Those are brave who have shed more blood than any other for this country. A disproportionate number of them are Sikhs.

They do. In this very thread and I have replied to them. Where is the evidence that they have shed MORE blood than others for this country ? how about the blood they took in 1857 ? How does the total add up ?

Fighting with the British was a pragmatic choice since 1857. They had their reasons to not support the nascent Bahadur Shah Zafar. Plus, there have been many freedom fighters from that region. Sikhs and Hindus. They have been eclipsed by the Nehru dynasty but they were there.

Everbody has a reason. Finally what matters is where you stood. That is how History is going to judge you.

White worship is a problem all of India suffers from. Don't confuse Sikhs with Khalistanis. The Punjab insurgency was put down by the Punjab police unlike Kashmir, NE etc where the contribution of the Army was almost everything. Blue Star was a single event. Otherwise it was entirely handled by KPS Gill.

When 10.7% people from a particular ethnicity emigrate to Western nations by hook or by crook, there is clear evidence of a distorted social mindset and a deep rooted sense of lack of faith in their own land and people.

Confusing sikhs with khalistani is a strawman. You are free to build them and demolish them. The terrorism there was put down by their own police like any other state in India. They need to special recogniztion for that. They did us no favour. or do you think they did ?

I never said otherwise. Even Jodhabai's father was a Hindu. I think you will get my point.

You did by saying "Absolute lie".

 

[SecularNationalist]

The bold part above is the obvious reason for bold part below...Being a punjabi it would be easier for me to mingle with a Punjabi Pakistani than a South India....now it doesn't prove anything about one being better than other(which is what you are saying as well) however i don't see a reason why i would be fighting with South Indian here?? So the last line about violence makes little sense to me...


Nopes...Our history has nothing to do with Muslims or Hindus...The violence was only against tyrants...Guru Gobind Singh ji fought many wars with Hindu Kings as well....and his army had people from both the religions...

I was not advocating a fight with a south indian as well.
Paa jee violence between hindus and muslims comes naturally because islam as an abrahmic religion is almost complete opposite of dharmic religion called Hinduism.
Cow is something extremely holy thing in hinduism whereas muslims eat it and sacrifice it publicly on eid ul azha .Quran says there is one god but hindus have something like thousands of gods and hundreds of deities,and the list continues. 99% of the time they are offending each other if they are living together

 

[deckingraj]

Yes but majority of wars were against muslim invaders & majority sacrifices were for hindus..

That's what i am clarifying buddy....neither the war was against muslims nor hindus...all the war's were against tyranny...and to be honest with you...Those so called "Pahadi Rajas" were hand in gloves with Mughals...so there was no differentiation of any kind....Remember Guru Ji even helped Mughal Emperor Bahadur Shah....This is what Jahangir wrote about Guru Arjan Dev Ji...

Jahangir wrote in his autobiography titled ‘Jahangirnama’, “The Hindus going to this Guru is understandable but even the stupid Muslims are going to him. I think I will ask him to either change his ways or accept Islam.”

I was not advocating a fight with a south indian as well.
Paa jee violence between hindus and muslims comes naturally because islam as an abrahmic religion is almost complete opposite of dharmic religion called Hinduism.
Cow is something extremely holy thing in hinduism whereas muslims eat it and sacrifice it publicly on eid ul azha .Quran says there is one god but hindus have something like thousands of gods and hundreds of deities,and the list continues. 99% of the time they are offending each other if they are living together

....well i don't agree however i understand your perspective as well....

 

[SarthakGanguly]

They do. In this very thread and I have replied to them. Where is the evidence that they have shed MORE blood than others for this country ? how about the blood they took in 1857 ? How does the total add up ?



Everbody has a reason. Finally what matters is where you stood. That is how History is going to judge you.



When 10.7% people from a particular ethnicity emigrate to Western nations by hook or by crook, there is clear evidence of a distorted social mindset and a deep rooted sense of lack of faith in their own land and people.

Confusing sikhs with khalistani is a strawman. You are free to build them and demolish them. The terrorism there was put down by their own police like any other state in India. They need to special recogniztion for that. They did us no favour. or do you think they did ?



You did by saying "Absolute lie".

Yes, it was misleading on my part. But the point stays.
The khalistanis were put down by Punjab police. UNLIKE any other state in India. Which is why Gill has been posted to other disturbed areas from time to time for his expertise in helping the local police forces.

One question. Are you a pro Mughal wannabe dhimmi Hindu? In that case we can end this discussion here.

 

[deckingraj]

Confusing sikhs with khalistani is a strawman. You are free to build them and demolish them. The terrorism there was put down by their own police like any other state in India. They need to special recogniztion for that. They did us no favour. or do you think they did ?.

Why are you making yourself a laughing stock....it is always better to not open your mouth on subject that you are not aware of...Otherwise prove right on this thread that bold part you wrote...