Should Russia invade Ukraine now and do a regime change?

[Desertfalcon]

We can really blame only someone who actually can commit a crime. Obviously, to blame Latvia or Uganda in making unconstitutional coup in Ukraine is silly, right? Especially because American officials did not conceal that the coup was plot and implemented with their participation.
The Nazis and the radicals came to power in Ukraine with direct support and coordination of the United States, as it was in the other "color revolutions." Now the real government of Ukraine - the Americans from the embassy, as well as instructors.
Admit it - plan is decent and beauty. You make a revolution, start armed suppression of those who are against the illegal authorities. Bloodshed and genocide of the Russian population begins. Russia intervenes, Europe is frightened. And then you come in on a white horse for "saving Europe from the bloodthirsty Russian bear." Europe and Russia in the lurch, USA -calculate profits.

I noticed you didn’t mention a single thing about the well documented fact that Yanukovych was removed by his own political party! Not the CIA, not the opposition, not any western European country, but by his own party majority in parliament who cited his violations of Ukraine's constitution, violations of Ukrainian individual rights, theft and corruption, etc.


And yet the, it never gets old with some country's defence is always, "the dog ate my homework", better known as, "when our country is a mess, don't be a man and take responsibility when all you need to do is blame evil, ole' America!" Just repeat the mantra, "it's always America's fault!"

 

[Penguin]

Yes because it is USA that started the regime change with nazis in power now and tries to threaten russia to go full scale NATO action in Ukraine.
US is the evil empire it was talking about through the never ended cold war.

You've been banned here and now back under different guise, haven't you....

 

[vostok]

I noticed you didn’t mention a single thing about the well documented fact that Yanukovych was removed by his own political party! Not the CIA, not the opposition, not any western European country, but by his own party majority in parliament who cited his violations of Ukraine's constitution, violations of Ukrainian individual rights, theft and corruption, etc.


And yet the, it never gets old with some country's defence is always, "the dog ate my homework", better known as, "when our country is a mess, don't be a man and take responsibility when all you need to do is blame evil, ole' America!" Just repeat the mantra, "it's always America's fault!"

Party members (not all) have renounced Yanukovych already in the process of "revolution" or after. Some still stay in the party (despite the prosecution).
During Maidan several times we have seen American officials that have directly expressed support for the anti-constitutional actions of radicals and the Nazis.
Seriously - do you deny that "Arab Spring" and "color revolutions" are American-made? This is too much even for American.

 

[Superboy]

Ah, another Kool-Aid drinker. I guess it wouldn't do any good to remind you that the "Nazis" that removed Viktor Yanukovych were his own political party that held the majority in parliament that voted for his removal! That's right, not the CIA, not the opposition. His own party! His party spokesman saying on removing Yanukovych,

"The party and its members "strongly condemn the criminal orders that led to human victims, an empty state treasury, huge debts, shame before the eyes of the Ukrainian people and the entire world."

But I'm sure even that was all some CIA plot. Everything in the world is.

Not true. Nazis held Party of Region members with guns pointing at their heads. Nazis are the ones to blame for the ouster of Yanukovych. Plus, only 328 deputies votes in favor for ousting Yanukovych when 338 votes were required by Constitution. Yanukovych was never impeached. He simply fled to Russia.

 

[Desertfalcon]

Seriously - do you deny that "Arab Spring" and "color revolutions" are American-made? This is too much even for American.

Yes, I do deny it. I will not deny that President Obama's government has supported it. I do not. But the so called, Arab Spring, started as an internal movement of Arab people who were finally sick and tired of their utterly corrupt "republics". This is how it started...

Arab Spring - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"The catalyst for the current escalation of protests was the self-immolation of Tunisian Mohamed Bouazizi. Unable to find work and selling fruit at a roadside stand, on 17 December 2010, a municipal inspector confiscated his wares. An hour later he doused himself with gasoline and set himself afire. His death on 4 January 2011[63] brought together various groups dissatisfied with the existing system, including many unemployed, political and human rights activists, labor, trade unionists, students, professors, lawyers, and others to begin the Tunisian Revolution."

Not true. Nazis held Party of Region members with guns pointing at their heads. Nazis are the ones to blame for the ouster of Yanukovych. Plus, only 328 deputies votes in favor for ousting Yanukovych when 338 votes were required by Constitution. Yanukovych was never impeached. He simply fled to Russia.

Of course, like all your posts, that is a complete and total myth. They ousted him for the very reasons that they stated,

"Yanukovych was disowned by the Party of Regions. In a statement issued by Oleksandr Yefremov, parliamentary faction leader, the party and its members "strongly condemn[ed] the criminal orders that led to human victims, an empty state treasury, huge debts, shame before the eyes of the Ukrainian people and the entire world."

Yah, that sure sounds like his party was being held hostage when they made that statement!

Heck, even Yanukovych now admits he was wrong in his handling of things...

Yanukovych: 'I Was Wrong' To Ask Russian Troops Into Crimea : The Two-Way : NPR

 

[SRBM2]

You've been banned here and now back under different guise, haven't you....

Never was here before and no wonder with so many americunt lovers who are denying everything that is already discovered and proven.
Phone calls leaked of jewland victoria who she wanted in the government. USAID with use of NGO's orchestrated and organized nazi push on maidan, use of Israeli soldiers on maidan, use of snipers with british sniper rifles who shot demonstrants and policemen. Steering up shit on maidan with more then 20 US and EU politicans while if such thing any russian politician would do at a western country demonstration it would be outrages.

US are terrorists on this planet, parasites.

 

[vostok]

Yes, I do deny it. I will not deny that President Obama's government has supported it. I do not. But the so called, Arab Spring, started as an internal movement of Arab people who were finally sick and tired of their utterly corrupt "republics". This is how it started...

Arab Spring - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"The catalyst for the current escalation of protests was the self-immolation of Tunisian Mohamed Bouazizi. Unable to find work and selling fruit at a roadside stand, on 17 December 2010, a municipal inspector confiscated his wares. An hour later he doused himself with gasoline and set himself afire. His death on 4 January 2011[63] brought together various groups dissatisfied with the existing system, including many unemployed, political and human rights activists, labor, trade unionists, students, professors, lawyers, and others to begin the Tunisian Revolution."

Man, do not be naive. No revolution since the Middle Ages is not accomplished without external involvement. All of the revolutions, since 19th century were paid and coordinated from outside. Britain did it, the Soviet Union did, the United States do it now. There are internal problems in every state on the Earth, but only there where involved someone's interests, these problems become a cause for revolution. A small, well trained core made a coup, with support and coordination of external forces (currently the world has only one such force) and the crowds of simpletons duped by propaganda do the frames on camera for the world public. The United States could be in white gloves, but not - for some reason, your people show up at the epicenter of the riots and murders and distribute cookies. It's not professional. Britain did not commit such mistakes.

 

[Desertfalcon]

Man, do not be naive. No revolution since the Middle Ages is not accomplished without external involvement. All of the revolutions, since 19th century were paid and coordinated from outside. Britain did it, the Soviet Union did, the United States do it now. There are internal problems in every state on the Earth, but only there where involved someone's interests, these problems become a cause for revolution. A small, well trained core made a coup, with support and coordination of external forces (currently the world has only one such force) and the crowds of simpletons duped by propaganda do the frames on camera for the world public. The United States could be in white gloves, but not - for some reason, your people show up at the epicenter of the riots and murders and distribute cookies. It's not professional. Britain did not commit such mistakes.

You mean, kinda' like Putin is doing NOW in the Ukraine? Let me guess; that's different, right?

 

[Penguin]

List of countries with overseas military bases:

• 1 French

• 2 Indian

• 3 Italian

• 4 Japanese

• 5 Russian

• 6 Turkish

• 7 United Kingdom

• 8 United States

List of countries with overseas military bases - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[vostok]

You mean, kinda' like Putin is doing NOW in the Ukraine? Let me guess; that's different, right?

And what Putin is doing now? Revolution in Texas or Alaska?

 

[SRBM2]

List of countries with overseas military bases:

• 1 French

• 2 Indian

• 3 Italian

• 4 Japanese

• 5 Russian

• 6 Turkish

• 7 United Kingdom

• 8 United States

List of countries with overseas military bases - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

4 bases vs 1000+ bases that is a huge difference the US is an aggressive empire.

 

[Penguin]

4 bases vs 1000+ bases that is a huge difference the US is an aggressive empire.

You are entitled to your opinions. I just wanted people to realize there are only 8 nations with military bases overseas. India, Turkey, Italy and Japan each have basing in 1 other country. France has bases in 15 other countries and 8 'overseas territories', Russia in 10 other countries, UK in 7 countries and 3 'overseas territories', and US in 27 other countries and 1 'overseas territory'.

 

[ptldM3]

I noticed you didn’t mention a single thing about the well documented fact that Yanukovych was removed by his own political party! Not the CIA, not the opposition, not any western European country, but by his own party majority in parliament who cited his violations of Ukraine's constitution, violations of Ukrainian individual rights, theft and corruption, etc.


And yet the, it never gets old with some country's defence is always, "the dog ate my homework", better known as, "when our country is a mess, don't be a man and take responsibility when all you need to do is blame evil, ole' America!" Just repeat the mantra, "it's always America's fault!"

The CIA director tried to secretly fly into Ukraine, his cover was blown. Victoria Nuland was wire tapped talking about installing a puppet leader which, to no one's surprise got the prime minister job. And a hand full of other western politicians were flying into Ukraine and having behind the door meetings with opposition.

Also many of the protesters during Maiden have admitted to being paid, not to mention the US openly has admitted to investing billions for "democracy" in Ukraine.

It's pretty evident that Ukraine was overthrown with massive US/EU help. People have to be naive to not believe that US/NATO intelligence agencies were not working behind closed doors (we already knew this with the CIA director's visit to Kiev). Considering how relentless and hell bent NATO has been in encroaching on Russia's borders, turning neutral countries hostile towards Russia and setting up military assets directed at Russia.

 

[Fukuoka]

No, rather focus on organizing america & europe springs

 

[WolfXS]

There are two parts to your question:
1. There is absolutely nothing to be had in a full-scale invasion of Ukraine
2. There should be no doubt that Russia would like a regime change in Ukraine

Putin is simply trying to make an example out of Ukraine for switching sides (EU/US) but his primary objective is more about creating chaos and denying an easy win to US, if you can call it that after the loss of Crimea. However, in the long term it would be interesting to see how Russia and Ukraine resolve their differences as a lot of Russia oil and gas flows through Ukraine.