Should PAF go for J-13? ( including possible first flight photo)

[araz]

The next 18 block 52 -- bad timming, Afghan war is winding down -- the lead time to get the next 18 is about three years -- no one knows what would happen in next three when there would not be direct US involvement in Afghanistan. Furthermore, India would have chosen its new fighter!!!!

The better option would be to stick to MLU option and get more low airframe hour earlier blocks.

My 2C worth

Aamir
Where as i see the logic in your stance, The US might not want to sell us too many older variants for obvious reasons.We may yet be arm wresled into buying more Bl52s and in fact PAF is currently in talks with US about 14-18 new BL52s.I see it as a logical stand on grounds that the moment the first Bl52 lands in Pakistan, US reasons for keeping us away from them goes in the bin. They can sanction us again , but will end up losing out as that leaves us free of all the commitments that we have made. So in short this may well be the reason for getting more Bl52s in my humble opinion.We will still be getting our old Bl15OCUs and perhaps some more airframes for MLU. Lets wait and see.
Regards
Araz

 

[M8R]

Besides i doubt US would want to piss us off again like 90's sanctions.

 

[Akasa]

Its been claimed by many that the J-11B suites PAF needs being a heavy fighter. But we know that such a purchase is unlikely because apart from PAF's decision for going for a heavy fighter, J-11 is roughly a copy of the Russian Su-27...and hence intellectual rights might come in play. In simpler words, China won't piss off Russia by making a copy and then selling it.

With the J-13 being rumored to be roughly in the same class, twin-engined, heavy weight, and might incorporate the latest China has to offer including possibly many systems developed for next gen aircraft. The advantage being its bigger is size so can accomodate heavier and more powerful equipment, have better payload and range, might even have significantly low RCS.

The lows are that its a dedicated Aircraft carrier based so the strengthening is an over-cost and not necessary for us. But same goes for Super-hornet but still finds its way in Australian and spanish airforces and is competing in the Indian MMRCA.

Btw, here's a "supposed" first flight of it. Doesn't look very credible but who knows. (courtesy china-defense forums).

Your views...

I doubt it's genuine. It doesn't match the description of the J-13. The real J-13 should have canards and internal weapons bay.

 

[Super Falcon]

well it is still under trials and not sure about this system it need time as J 10 and JF 17 started in 90s era

 

[Akasa]

well it is still under trials and not sure about this system it need time as J 10 and JF 17 started in 90s era

Here's what I have from various Chinese sources.

1. J-13's mockup was buit in 2004
2. J-13 assembly was in 2006
3. J-13 will enter service in 2010
4. J-13's name is "Peng Dragon"
5. J-13 will serve alongside the J-14

 

[Akasa]

I found this photo. It looks quite real and it's from CCTV. It also matches the description of the J-13 without fail.

 

[aimarraul]

I found this photo. It looks quite real and it's from CCTV. It also matches the description of the J-13 without fail.

PSed

 

[SBD-3]

Here's what I have from various Chinese sources.

1. J-13's mockup was buit in 2004
2. J-13 assembly was in 2006
3. J-13 will enter service in 2010
4. J-13's name is "Peng Dragon"
5. J-13 will serve alongside the J-14

Are you referring To J-10BZ as J-13 cuz this plane will enter service this year

 

[Tajdar adil]

There are no heavy combat aircraft in PAF Pakistan to get some heavy bomber aircrafts like
Su 30
J 11B
F 15
Pakistan airforce realy need that kind of aircrafts

 

[The_magnificent]

^^ Don't PAF prefer lower maintainable & running cost fighters?