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If you were to purchase from the popular public discourse about developments along India's unresolved frontiers with China, you would end up gnashing your teeth at the brazenness with which our northern neighbour is nibbling away at disputed territory while an effete political class in New Delhi doesn't retaliate even to gross provocations.

In this narrative, China is a strategic genius that keeps securing gains through bold tactical moves ranging from littering the Himalayas with cigarette cartons to sending platoon strength detachments of the People's Liberation Army (PLA) on excursions into India. India, as you might recall, lacks a strategic culture, so we just match the PLA's aggressive moves by firing long-range ballistic outrage nightly from launching pads located in television studios.

There are, no doubt, shades of truth in the dominant public perception about what is going on at the India-China boundary. Beijing assumed a hard-line posture on the boundary dispute a few years ago. New Delhi's response has been more restrained than it ought to have been. This, combined with the United Progressive Alliance (UPA) government's abysmal communication skills and total abandonment of the use of rhetoric to manage public opinion, has scored a self-goal in the psychological domain.

The net result, as far as the boundary situation is concerned, is to hand the PLA an inexpensive tool to counter the Indian Army's tactical moves. All that the PLA needs to do to get its Indian counterpart to pipe down a bit is to do something that the Indian media will find brazen and outrageous. Since there are fairly robust bilateral mechanisms to prevent a shooting war, the New Delhi establishment will choose to localise the matter and say, as Prime Minister Manmohan Singh did on Saturday, that "we do not want to accentuate the situation". Behind the scenes, India's political leadership will probably tell the military commanders to cool it a bit.

While there is some merit in exercising caution to prevent tactical manoeuvres from escalating into a war, we must counter China's ability to use media dynamics and public psychology so easily against us.

In doing so, we must not forget that the boundary dispute is just one facet of a multidimensional and increasingly global contest. India is in a position to be a swing power between the United States and China. For this to work, India must first enjoy better relations with each of them than they have with each other. Second, India must show that it has the ability to benefit and hurt their interests.

So how should India respond?

The PLA's tactic of creating outrage to check the Indian Army works because the Chinese side expects the Indian political leadership to act rationally. If, instead, New Delhi were to allow the situation "to accentuate", to use the prime minister's phrase, then it would be for Beijing to choose whether it wants to escalate matters, especially at this time when China finds itself poised on the verge of conflict with almost all of its neighbours.

This is, of course, a risky thing to do. However, this is also a good time to take a calculated risk. After this month's incursion, PLA commanders have proposed that the Indian Army back away from its positions in return for the PLA vacating its campsite in the Depsang valley in Ladakh. New Delhi should reject such a compromise; instead, it should visibly reinforce the Indian military presence around the vicinity. New Delhi should signal to Beijing - and, lest we forget, to our television studios - that this would be our default response to anything that we consider an incursion.

While New Delhi has sought to respond to China's use of roads, railways and demographic change along the frontier with its own effort to improve infrastructure, these measures suffer from a combination of political blinkers, bureaucratic ineffectiveness and rampant corruption. As P Stobdan wrote in The Indian Express last week, we must "build infrastructure, populate the area, reactivate nomadic herding, and provide them [the frontier population] with the wherewithal to fight the vagaries of nature".

Beyond the Himalayan boundary theatre, New Delhi should calibrate its attention to the numerous maritime disputes involving China and its East Asian neighbours to the temperature of the overall India-China relationship. China cannot expect New Delhi to be insensitive to Japan, South Korea, Vietnam, the Philippines and other Southeast Asian states if Beijing is insensitive to India's interests.

With a new leadership assuming office in China and a flurry of bilateral diplomatic exchanges in the offing, it is timely for the pragmatic men in Beijing to consider the merits of an approach that antagonises a giant civilisational neighbour to their south. Do they really want the PLA to score tactical points at the cost of strengthening the relationship between the US and India?


The lessons of 1962 are routinely invoked in India to warn us of being underprepared for a conflict with an expansionist neighbour. While that war was a military and political victory for the Chinese, it has, so far, antagonised three generations of Indians. Do China's leaders think that antagonising more generations of Indians makes strategic sense at all?

Being unreasonable with China | Business Standard
 
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PLA won't have to do anything. As soon as the ill equipped impoverished IA troops will see PLA infantry eating chow mein and relaxing , they will freeze to death out of sheer fear. PLA may then have to treat these vast no. of POWs with food and medi-care. Rather PLA needs to prepare for a post conflict scenario on how to treat the huge no. of Indian POWs they will be burdened with. :coffee:
 
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PLA won't have to do anything. As soon as the ill equipped impoverished IA troops will see PLA infantry eating chow mein and relaxing , they will freeze to death out of sheer fear. PLA may then have to treat these vast no. of POWs with food and medi-care. Rather PLA needs to prepare for a post conflict scenario on how to treat the huge no. of Indian POWs they will be burdened with. :coffee:

Hear .....hear a left over pakistani is memorizing 1971 episode of India triump :lol:

Just wait an see the Chinese with drawl, then you people will eat your words.
 
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Nothing will come out of Khurshid's trip to Beijing. GOI must let the army take charge: reinforce in Ladakh, surround the PLA and show India is not to be trifled with :angry:

Soft India can’t tame tough China

There is understandable national concern over the sudden surge of belligerence in China’s attitude towards India, most notably visible in the marked shift in its approach to resolving the border issue which has been festering for half-a-century now. Although talks on demarcating the border to the mutual satisfaction of India and China have been dragging on without any resolution in sight, both New Delhi and Beijing have remained committed to maintaining peace and tranquillity along the Line of Actual Control, thus preserving the status quo in the interregnum. Seen against this backdrop, China’s sudden smash-and-grab adventurism in Ladakh has come as a surprise, though many who have been warning about Beijing’s true intentions would disagree with that proposition: the Dragon was never to be trusted.

Nearly a fortnight after a platoon of PLA soldiers – 30 of them, we are told – marched across the LAC 15 km into Indian territory and set up camp, thus occupying a strategic height which had proved advantageous for India during the 1962 war, that concern is fast turning into anger. The mounting rage is directed as much against China’s new leaders who appear to be far more cavalier than the lot that stepped down earlier this year, seemingly intent upon recreating the flawed relationship that faltered and collapsed so horribly 50 years ago and took several decades to nurse back to health, as the weak Congress-led UPA regime in New Delhi. Then, as now, Beijing sneered at New Delhi’s concerns and refused to countenance its objections while spurning India’s sovereign claim over its territory. If memories of India’s humiliation in 1962 had dimmed, they were adequately revived last year when the sordid saga of China’s loathsome treachery and India’s stunning incompetence to protect its land and people was told all over again, reopening the wound of defeat that was presumed to have healed.

Between April 15 and Saturday, April 27, we have seen nothing but a clueless Ministry of External Affairs and an impotent Ministry of Defence trying to hide their failure in dealing with the situation effectively by taking recourse to inanity and worse. Flailing arms and wringing hands are unlikely to deter an adventurist PLA backed by an aggressive CPC with its leaders at the helm of affairs in China. Minister for External Affairs Salman Khurshid laughably believes that his scheduled visit to Beijing will help restore status quo ante in the Daulat Beg Oldie sector of Ladakh while Minister for Defence AK Antony touchingly places his trust in achieving a “peaceful resolution through negotiation and consultation”.

Meanwhile, providing much-needed comic relief in these tense times, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has assured the nation that he has a plan in place to deal with the situation without accentuating it. “We do have a plan. We do not want to accentuate the situation. It is a localised problem. We do believe that it is possible to resolve this problem,” he told newspersons on Saturday. If there is indeed a plan, as he claims, it is only fair that he should share it with the nation rather than expect us to believe him. In the past our effete Prime Minister has proved to be singularly incapable of defending India’s national interest while dealing with Pakistan. There is no reason why he should be trusted on dealing with China without compromising our national interest. Also, there is nothing ‘local’ about the problem: Chinese soldiers have been intruding into Indian territory across the 4,057 km LAC; this time they have stayed put. There have been 600 instances of Chinese troops intruding (our Government coyly refers to it has ‘transgressing’) into Indian territory over the past three years. On no occasion did this Government, more so the Prime Minister who virtually runs the Ministry of External Affairs, so much as wag its little finger at China. To expect the nation to be calmed by Manmohan Singh’s claim of having a ‘plan’ now that the Chinese troops are refusing to budge after ‘transgressing’ 19 km into Indian territory is a bit thick. Only the naïve and the untutored would feel reassured; even Congress loyalists would feel alarmed.

If we were to rewind to 1961-62 before Chinese soldiers marched into India, we would find that then too Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru had fobbed off a worrying nation by pompously declaring he was sure of staving off a crisis through negotiation and consultation. That bluff didn’t work and we know how Nehru abandoned the people of Assam to their fate after the fall of Bomdila: “Huge Chinese armies are marching into the North-East of India… yesterday we lost Bomdila, a small town in Kameng division… my heart goes out to the people of Assam!” Krishna Menon, as squeaky clean as AK Antony but a million times more ineffectual than our present Raksha Mantri, had starved the Defence Forces of funds and equipment, and staffed the upper echelons of the Army with Nehru loyalists who couldn’t tell a rifle from a revolver. Army Chief General KS Thimayya chose honour over political loyalty and resigned; Krishna Menon was undeterred. And so it came to pass that General BM Kaul, a Nehru favourite catapulted to high office in the Army, ordered his officers and men to prepare to withdraw from Tezpur. That would have been as good as surrendering to the PLA. It required the grit and determination of Sam Manekshaw, who gathered his officers and told them, “Gentlemen, there shall be no withdrawals”, to salvage whatever could be salvaged of what was by then a lost war.

But then, for Nehru there was nothing sacred about the national interest or protecting India, its land and its people, from its foes. He disallowed the Army from reclaiming Pakistani Kashmir in 1947 and legitimised Pakistan’s illegitimate claim by taking the issue to the UN against Sardar Patel’s advice. That trait was to surface again and again. China’s occupation of Aksai Chin had fetched his (in)famous comment that “Not a blade of grass grows in Aksai Chin” and hence India had not lost much. “My heart goes out to the people of Assam” was to soon follow. Nehru was found not to have a plan. If the intrusion by the PLA into DBO sector remains unresolved, and the camp set up by Chinese soldiers expands into a strategic base, we should not be surprised. Nor should we be surprised to discover that Manmohan Singh never had a ‘plan’.

This is not a moment for pious pontification. Nor is this occasion meant for sanctimonious posturing or taking recourse to bunk about negotiation and consultation. There is time still for letting the Indian Army do what it is meant to do: defend India and protect its territory. Let our soldiers cut off supply lines to the PLA intruders, which can be easily done; let them go and plant the Tricolour at more than one place across the LAC; and let India raise its voice in support of Tibet and its oppressed people. A spineless Prime Minister heading a thoroughly corrupt regime can’t be depended upon at such times.
 
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Nothing will come out of Khurshid's trip to Beijing. GOI must let the army take charge: reinforce in Ladakh, surround the PLA and show India is not to be trifled with :angry:

hmm this move will most probably see the resignation of thousands of IA troops :hang2:
 
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The truth is Indian soldiers are better than chinese because they have been protecting themselves against pakistani aggression every 20 years. They are battle-hardened and used to fighting in Kashmir. china's military is untested and is definitely unable to fight in mountain warfare.
 
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The truth is Indian soldiers are better than chinese because they have been protecting themselves against pakistani aggression every 20 years. They are battle-hardened and used to fighting in Kashmir. china's military is untested and is definitely unable to fight in mountain warfare.

:crazy: this better troop of yours is pissing their pants while PLA is invading the self proclaimed Indian land.
 
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well,trolling apart,thats what India doing and thats what pissed China..by the way,India opted for deplomacy,unlike last time when they "DETAINED AND HANDOVERED" to Chinese authority..India had enough amount of soldiers to do that right now.looks like something else going on..reports suggests that it was done by Jiang Zemin Faction of PLA deliberately to disturb Indo-China relation and what would be the good timing than the moment new Chinese President took over???If India don't remove those soldiers,the relation become bitter.and if India remove those soldiers forcefully,Chinese President will loose face..thats why India took a direct Govt to Govt discussion to reduce tension..Shame is on PLA for acting as Political Faction Tool ... :tdown:
 
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:crazy: this better troop of yours is pissing their pants while PLA is invading the self proclaimed Indian land.

By the same logic the super duper PLA must be pissing in their pants while while India is invading the self proclaimed Chinese land.

Hint : India has already setup 8 tents there.
 
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By the same logic the super duper PLA must be pissing in their pants while while India is invading the self proclaimed Chinese land.

Hint : India has already setup 8 tents there.
It's true that Indian tents with within what China regards as its side of the LAC, but India so far has put them up to the West of the Chinese tent. If India moves to the East of the Chinese tent to surround it.... then the firework party begins.
 
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