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Should Bangladesh move its capital away from Dhaka?

I noticed, there is a surprising amount of empty space around Dhaka, tons of it in fact.

All of it was supposed to be allocated for new district schemes decades ago, but it's still all open fields.

Most of Prubachal is empty despite huge highway built to link it with Dhaka.

Jolsori, again, mostly empty field.

East of Basundara, all unoccupied, abandoned, or vacant plots. Even the expensive part of Basundara closer to Dhaka seem to have tons of plots which weren't touched for more than a decade, judging by humongous mountains of garbage dumped there by other plot owners.

In between Mipur, and Utara, also seems to be just open field with abandoned land.

On the whole Chandra direction from Dhaka, it seems to be a lot of untouched forests, jungle, and other minimally developed land.

Who said that Bangladesh has no land left to use?

When we had coffee breaks with client's engineers, I repeatedly asked them this.

They say, the real estate is far more profitable in Bangladesh than any electronics. Rent even from a 5 storey shed will make you a millionaire fast, and a housing society is more profitable than printing money.

Then, they quietly said that RAJUK directors may well be the richest men in the country, richer than even Hasina's family itself.

All words worth their weight in gold (Thanks) ....I'm sure every Bangladeshi PDF member in the know will agree.

So - bottom line, plenty of scope to have zoned developments and planned cities on the out skirts of the city. Which will be a lot cheaper than renovating or re-developing city property within crowded Dhaka city limits. The critical thing is leaving enough space from one house to another, space for parking and also offsets from curb to house entrances. If we are too efficiency minded, we can follow Japanese and Dutch examples in this case. They are both masters in efficient use of space in cities and still have reasonable comfort zones to work with.

But there are still unplanned developments around some areas that need to have wider roads.
 
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they're not wrong

Rajuk Land registry office workers (even the lowest ranks ) make money through bribery

There's lots of empty underdeveloped areas near or on the way to Uttara (dont remember which sector it was)

Last time i checked Bashundhara L block plots were going for 75 lack per katha (anyone know the metric equivalent?) but i didnt see many buildings there. Ppl just bought 3 katha plots and seemed to forget it ever existed.

Most of my time (in BD) was spent in Dhanmondi 27/Lalmatia , very chaotic although lalmatia was somewhat quiet.

1 Katha (কাঠা) = 720 sq ft (80 sq yd or 66.89 sq m)

1 Bigha (বিঘা) = 20 katha (কাঠা) (14,400 sq ft or 1,337.8 sq m)

1 Acre (একর) = 3 bigha (বিঘা) 60.5 katha (কাঠা) (4,840 sq yd or 43,560 sq ft or 4,047 sq m)

BTW - These measures are Bangladesh specific, those same measures are quite different in WB, Bihar, Punjab and Nepal.
 
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Lil off topic but India also needs to move the capital away from Delhi, historically the city has nothing but attracted trouble

Delhi already has a third capital, it's called Noida, all they have to do is create another CBD and move the administrative offices there. Let's discuss this in another thread...
 
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All words worth their weight in gold (Thanks) ....I'm sure every Bangladeshi PDF member in the know will agree.

So - bottom line, plenty of scope to have zoned developments and planned cities on the out skirts of the city. Which will be a lot cheaper than renovating or re-developing city property within crowded Dhaka city limits. The critical thing is leaving enough space from one house to another, space for parking and also offsets from curb to house entrances. If we are too efficiency minded, we can follow Japanese and Dutch examples in this case. They are both masters in efficient use of space in cities and still have reasonable comfort zones to work with.

But there are still unplanned developments around some areas that need to have wider roads.
Bangladesh is a very small country with limited area and high population density. It is a poor country without much wealth. It is impractical to think Dhaka becoming another American City with large space between the houses.

Dhaka needs high rise apartments and of course may detached houses. A development project for housing is not alone. It needs roads & accesses, rainwater drainage system, gas pipelines, sewerage disposal system, electricity, playgrounds for children, parks, parks for the children, and the likes.

Can BD afford these spacious houses in an acre of land when it has almost no resources to follow the examples of widely spaced detached houses that are seen in America and Canada?

BD has to cut its coat according to the size of its fabric.
 
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try islamabad. nice location for a capital.
Terrific idea!

How much is the rent amount?

1 Katha (কাঠা) = 720 sq ft (80 sq yd or 66.89 sq m)

1 Bigha (বিঘা) = 20 katha (কাঠা) (14,400 sq ft or 1,337.8 sq m)

1 Acre (একর) = 3 bigha (বিঘা) 60.5 katha (কাঠা) (4,840 sq yd or 43,560 sq ft or 4,047 sq m)

BTW - These measures are Bangladesh specific, those same measures are quite different in WB, Bihar, Punjab and Nepal.
No, no, ditto in West Bengal.
 
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Lil off topic but India also needs to move the capital away from Delhi, historically the city has nothing but attracted trouble
Delhi is too iconic for that

You don't move Russian capital from Moscow
 
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Delhi is too iconic for that

You don't move Russian capital from Moscow

Actually St Petersburg has been the capital of Russia for most of its history not Moscow and its still regarded as cultural capital

Regarding Delhi its not that iconic, British India capital was Kolkata for most of their rule Delhi became much later in 1910. Also Mughals capital city was not Delhi for most of their peak years it was Agra. Delhi only became their capital when their empire had slowly started to decline.
 
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Regarding Delhi its not that iconic, British India capital was Kolkata for most of their rule Delhi became much later in 1910. Also Mughals capital city was not Delhi for most of their peak years it was Agra. Delhi only became their capital when their empire had slowly started to decline.

If Delhi was not the capital then what is this?

DECEMBER 17, 1398

TIMUR BRUTALLY SACKS THE ANCIENT INDIAN CITY OF DELHI​

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Today on December 17, 1398, Timur achieves one of his greatest victories at the Battle of Delhi.
The Battle of Delhi ended with Timur and his army brutally sacking and destroying the Indian capital. Timur, also known as Tamerlane, was a Turco-Mongol conqueror that ruled over most of present-day central Asia. Historians consider him to be the last great nomadic conqueror of the Eurasian Steppe. He envisioned restoring the great empire of Genghis Khan and referred to himself as the “Sword of Islam”. After a series of successful military campaigns, he eventually defeated the Mamluks of Egypt and Syria, the emerging Ottoman Empire, and the declining Delhi Sultanate. According to some estimates, Timur and his armies were responsible for more than 17 million deaths.
In 1398, Timur launched a massive campaign to conquer India. His pretext for the invasion was based on Sultan Nasiruddin Mahmud of Delhi (a Muslim ruler) showing excessive tolerance towards their Hindu subjects. Timur and his army crossed the Indus River in September 1398 and left a path of carnage on their march to Delhi. Its estimated his army captured 100,000 slaves before reaching the city. Fearing that his prisoners may suddenly revolt, he ruthlessly ordered their mass execution. The Sultan of Delhi opted to meet Timur in an open battlefield. The two armies clashed outside the city walls. The Indian army had one powerful advantage over their enemy - armored war elephants with chainmail and poisoned tusks.
Naturally, Timur’s forces were afraid of the elephants, so he ordered them to dig huge trenches in front of their positions. He also knew that elephants were easily panicked. So, he loaded camels with wood and hay, set them ablaze, and prodded them with iron sticks. The flaming, screaming camels ran directly towards the elephants and caused them to frantically flee back to their own lines. Chaos quickly broke out among the enemy army. Timur took advantage and attacked with devastating effect. Afterward, he sacked the city, enslaved much of the population, and reduced it to ruins. The Battle of Delhi was arguably one of Timur’s greatest victories.


The population pressure will be increasing, and the partial transfer of Dhaka is necessary.

If Banglas wait for few more decades half of them will be under water and the population pressure will automatically decrease.
 
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If Delhi was not the capital then what is this?

DECEMBER 17, 1398

TIMUR BRUTALLY SACKS THE ANCIENT INDIAN CITY OF DELHI​

MONGOLIAN EMPIREBATTLE
SHARE THIS ARTICLE:Twitter

LAST UPDATED: DECEMBER 17, 2019
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Today on December 17, 1398, Timur achieves one of his greatest victories at the Battle of Delhi.
The Battle of Delhi ended with Timur and his army brutally sacking and destroying the Indian capital. Timur, also known as Tamerlane, was a Turco-Mongol conqueror that ruled over most of present-day central Asia. Historians consider him to be the last great nomadic conqueror of the Eurasian Steppe. He envisioned restoring the great empire of Genghis Khan and referred to himself as the “Sword of Islam”. After a series of successful military campaigns, he eventually defeated the Mamluks of Egypt and Syria, the emerging Ottoman Empire, and the declining Delhi Sultanate. According to some estimates, Timur and his armies were responsible for more than 17 million deaths.
In 1398, Timur launched a massive campaign to conquer India. His pretext for the invasion was based on Sultan Nasiruddin Mahmud of Delhi (a Muslim ruler) showing excessive tolerance towards their Hindu subjects. Timur and his army crossed the Indus River in September 1398 and left a path of carnage on their march to Delhi. Its estimated his army captured 100,000 slaves before reaching the city. Fearing that his prisoners may suddenly revolt, he ruthlessly ordered their mass execution. The Sultan of Delhi opted to meet Timur in an open battlefield. The two armies clashed outside the city walls. The Indian army had one powerful advantage over their enemy - armored war elephants with chainmail and poisoned tusks.
Naturally, Timur’s forces were afraid of the elephants, so he ordered them to dig huge trenches in front of their positions. He also knew that elephants were easily panicked. So, he loaded camels with wood and hay, set them ablaze, and prodded them with iron sticks. The flaming, screaming camels ran directly towards the elephants and caused them to frantically flee back to their own lines. Chaos quickly broke out among the enemy army. Timur took advantage and attacked with devastating effect. Afterward, he sacked the city, enslaved much of the population, and reduced it to ruins. The Battle of Delhi was arguably one of Timur’s greatest victories.




If Banglas wait for few more decades half of them will be under water and the population pressure will automatically decrease.
he was a tyrant and lol at sword of Islam
almost all of the kingdoms he invaded were Muslim kingdoms, Ottomans, Delhi add in couple other too - all were Muslims

Sounds like ISIS who kill Muslims and than call themselves protector of Muslims
 
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Lil off topic but India also needs to move the capital away from Delhi, historically the city has nothing but attracted trouble
Moving somewhere towards Central India you mean? What are the options? I don't think so anyone is even entertaining the idea of shifting our capital because it's simply not needed. There will also be a lot of logistical cost involved with it.

Should Bangladesh move its capital away from Dhaka?




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Sheikh Rafi Ahmed
07 February, 2022, 12:00 pm
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Dhaka has become overburdened as a capital and something needs to be done to relieve the pressure, whether it be by moving capitals or decentralising our administrative sector to other regions


On 18 January, the Indonesian parliament declared that it would be moving its capital from Jakarta to a new city called Nusantara on the island of Borneo. Jakarta alone currently hosts about 278 million people; about 60 percent of the total population of Indonesia.

High population density, high risks of flooding, depleting groundwater, economic redistribution as well as Jakarta's long-term viability as capital were among some of the reasons cited by the parliament leading to this decision.

At around the same time, the Egyptian government has also decided to build its new capital 45 kilometres east of Cairo; its current capital is strangled by often immovable traffic attributable to the very ministries and administrative buildings situated there. The conditions in Jakarta or Cairo feel eerily similar to that of Dhaka, the capital city of Bangladesh.

Dhaka also faces gradually depleting groundwater (although not as bad as Jakarta yet), barely breathable air (AQI level consistently being among the worst in the world), polluted lifelines (rivers) beyond the hope of rescue and roads that seemingly remain clogged forever with traffic.

According to the Global Liveability Index 2021, the 400-year-old capital city of Bangladesh was the 4th least hospitable city in the world. Dhaka is simultaneously the 6th most densely populated city in the world, while Jakarta or Cairo are not even among the top 10.

A capital city should ideally have a population of 6 to 7 million whereas Dhaka currently has a population of roughly 21.7 million people. The excessive population has a directly adverse effect on the environment, from polluting the water we drink to the very air that we and our children breathe in.

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When asked how overburdened Dhaka was as a capital, Dr Adil Mohammad Khan, Associate Professor of Jahangirnagar University said, "Dhaka hosts three or four times the population considered ideal for a capital city. In terms of infrastructure, Dhaka has three or four times less the infrastructure required to sustain a capital."

Dr Amanat Ullah Khan, a former Professor at the University of Dhaka, agreed with the sentiment.
"If you look at the more efficient capitals of the world like Moscow, Washington DC, they were pre-planned in a way to allow for necessary expansion. That is not the case for Dhaka. There is practically no place to expand anymore. So, it's overcrowded with insane traffic where it takes 3-4 hours to get from any point to another," said Dr Amanat Ullah.

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The most problematic aspect of such overdependence on Dhaka is the saturation of economic opportunities. More specifically, investment in such crowded cities tends to exhibit diminishing marginal returns. That is, no matter how many metro rails, subways or elevated expressways are added into the infrastructure by the government, without decentralisation such investment will not bring about the intended outcomes in terms of generating revenue or employment opportunities in the long run.

This begs the question: since Dhaka can no longer function properly in this state, should we follow the path laid by Egypt, Indonesia, Myanmar etc. and move the capital away from Dhaka?

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Not necessarily.
Dhaka still serves as the most strategically suitable location for a capital city in Bangladesh. Capital cities are of utmost importance as they protect the government in case of a foreign invasion and Dhaka being located in almost the centre of Bangladesh only reinforces that cause. At the same time, capitals serve as a melting pot where members of all regions can come and look for employment with ease. Capital cities are also used to exert control and project unity all across the nation.
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For these purposes, it is generally recommended that the capital is geographically situated somewhere central to the country and for Bangladesh, there is no place better than Dhaka.

More importantly, different countries shift their capital cities for different reasons and it is foolish to blindly follow their lead. Indonesia is moving its capital city from Jakarta primarily because of its quickly depleting groundwater resources and high risk of flooding.

Other countries might change their capitals for political reasons. For instance, Egypt is shifting its capital because the military, which put the current government in power, stands to benefit from the construction and subsequent buying and selling of properties in the new city. Myanmar – a regime ruled by their military junta – also moved their administrative capital from Yangoon to Naypyidaw, mainly to shield the military regime from its people.

Moreover, it is extremely expensive to move the capital city from one place. For instance, it will reportedly cost Indonesia around $32 billion and Egypt around $45 billion each to rebuild their new capitals elsewhere.

To that end, Bangladesh will also have to conduct a thorough cost-benefit analysis before making any such drastic decisions. As Dr Adil says, "Uprooting the entire capital city is costly and being a lower-middle-income LDC, Bangladesh cannot afford such unnecessary investment right now. We should instead focus on administrative decentralisation."

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That is, we should gradually decentralise our administrative sector to other regions that better suit the purpose of a said ministry or an administrative sector. For instance, the Ministry and Administrative offices on Agriculture can gradually move towards the North-western region of the country, generally considered the agricultural hub of the country. The Ministry of Industry and affiliated bureaus could move to Chittagong, as most export-orientated activities take place in that region.
Dr Amanat Ullah Khan agreed and believed that Bangladesh should move its legislative branch away from Dhaka as well, as he says, "The parliament building was nothing but a consolation prize from the then Ayub Khan government and is merely a relic of the past. So, it is better to gradually move the legislative branch of the government away from the city."

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Apart from moving the executive and legislative branches of the government, there are other ways to release pressure on Dhaka. Countries like South Africa have more than one capital; its executive capital in Pretoria; judicial capital in Bloemfontein and its legislative capital in Cape Town.

Bangladesh could also declare additional business capitals on top of Dhaka being the administrative capital of the country, to release pressure on the capital while also attracting businesses to the new capital.

Besides that, business leaders often identify the lack of infrastructure, irregularities in power supply and voltage intermittencies as some of the reasons for not moving to other major cities in Bangladesh. Their complaints make sense given that only Dhaka and Chittagong currently have the capacity and proper infrastructure to attract businesses.
While shifting the entire capital city might be difficult, it is less expensive and requires fewer logistics to develop the essential infrastructures in other major cities to facilitate decentralised development.

Unfortunately, as far as the seventh and eighth five-year-plan of the government go, most of the mega projects of the government are either Dhaka or Chittagong-centric. Any targeted, well-thought-out decentralisation efforts on the government's part remain to be seen.

This 400-year-old city was put on life-support long ago. While megaprojects like metro rail, elevated expressway and underground subways may ease the pain, unless we move the boulders, i.e., the increasing economic and administrative pressure constricting its lifelines, none of these projects will save our beloved city from becoming an inhospitable hotchpotch of chaos and doom.

BD is doing great work in reducing their fertility rate but they should reduce it further avoid this overcrowding.
 
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Bangladesh is a very small country with limited area and high population density. It is a poor country without much wealth. It is impractical to think Dhaka becoming another American City with large space between the houses.
Dhaka needs high rise apartments and of course may detached houses. A development project for housing is not alone. It needs roads & accesses, rainwater drainage system, gas pipelines, sewerage system, electricity, playgrounds for children and the likes. Can BD afford these when it has almost no resources to follow the examples of widely spaced detached houses that are seen in America and Canada.

BD has to cut its coat according to the size of its fabric.
@bluesky, will skyscrapers reduce flat cost? I read somewhere ( not professional source I think ) that skyscrapers actually increase average cost instead of reducing it.

What's the reality ? Will skyscrapers actually reduce housing cost or will increase?

Most of area of Dhaka is like hell actually ( doesn't matter what BAL ministers claim it as Los Angeles) , so perhaps skyscrapers can help? Write please, I would really like to know . Thanks in advance.
 
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