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Shoot down US drones, say Pakistani groups

i seem to recall you holding the UN in contempt when the Palestinians voted for Statehood
There are different branches of the UN and their resolutions have different impact in international law depending on what body passes it and what clauses of the Charter are invoked.

Pakistan is acting against terrorists -
Apparently no American official finds that claim believable any more, at least not where the Haqqani Network is concerned.
 
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if the Govt. gives the order they could be shot down.....PAF nor army air defence can act unilaterally until order is given.

so the onus is on the GoP

PAF already established capability of shooting down unmanned aircrafts when india's prized israel-manufactured Searcher-II was shot down over the skies of south-west Lahore

(thanks for the target practice)
May be Searcher II was on suside mission and it might have completed its mission before being shot down.
But it won't be easy to shoot drone. Cause it's not Indian its USA drone. And I don't see GoP taking down US drone in next 10 years too.
You are fine if USA isn't your friend but nobody afford it as an enemy.
As I said before I will be the happiest person if PAF shoot down the drone as it will save some innocent lives in Pakistan and it will give some advanced technologies to India from USA plus change in US-Pak relations will help India. So it's good for India.
 
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Apparently no American official finds that claim believable any more, at least not where the Haqqani Network is concerned.
As I have repeatedly said, what America says or believes is not what the definition of a terrorist is. It is what the UN decrees it is
 
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There are different branches of the UN and their resolutions have different impact in international law depending on what body passes it and what clauses of the Charter are invoked.

oh-kay! :laugh: :unsure:


Apparently no American official finds that claim believable any more, at least not where the Haqqani Network is concerned.

well instead of getting matzah ball crumbs in your over-used keyboard, just do a few internet searches to see Pakistan's contribution....


as for Haqqani network - ABSOLUTELY that is right. They are a tribe. A tribe that exists on BOTH sides of the Durand Line. We won't commit a genocide simply because the Americans tell us to.
 
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shoot first .. bark later. or it will done after monsoon flood. After receiving flood donation from uncle SAM ;)
 
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As I have repeatedly said, what America says or believes is not what the definition of a terrorist is. It is what the UN decrees it is

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The Security Council,
Reaffirming its resolutions 1267 (1999) of 15 October 1999 and 1373 (2001)
of 28 September 2001 as well as its other resolutions concerning threats to
international peace and security caused by terrorism,
Recalling in this regard its resolution 1540 (2004) of 28 April 2004,
Reaffirming also the imperative to combat terrorism in all its forms and
manifestations by all means, in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations
and international law,
Deeply concerned by the increasing number of victims, including children,
caused by acts of terrorism motivated by intolerance or extremism in various
regions of the world,
Calling upon States to cooperate fully with the Counter-Terrorism Committee
(CTC) established pursuant to resolution 1373 (2001), including the recently
established Counter-Terrorism Committee Executive Directorate (CTED), the
“Al-Qaida/Taliban Sanctions Committee” established pursuant to resolution 1267
(1999) and its Analytical Support and Sanctions Monitoring Team, and the
Committee established pursuant to resolution 1540 (2004), and further calling upon
such bodies to enhance cooperation with each other,
Reminding States that they must ensure that any measures taken to combat
terrorism comply with all their obligations under international law, and should adopt
such measures in accordance with international law, in particular international
human rights, refugee, and humanitarian law,
Reaffirming that terrorism in all its forms and manifestations constitutes one of
the most serious threats to peace and security,
Considering that acts of terrorism seriously impair the enjoyment of human
rights and threaten the social and economic development of all States and undermine
global stability and prosperity,
Emphasizing that enhancing dialogue and broadening the understanding among
civilizations, in an effort to prevent the indiscriminate targeting of different
religions and cultures, and addressing unresolved regional conflicts and the full
range of global issues, including development issues, will contribute to international
cooperation, which by itself is necessary to sustain the broadest possible fight
against terrorism,
Reaffirming its profound solidarity with victims of terrorism and their families,
Acting under Chapter VII of the Charter of the United Nations,
1. Condemns in the strongest terms all acts of terrorism irrespective of their
motivation, whenever and by whomsoever committed, as one of the most serious
threats to peace and security;
2. Calls upon States to cooperate fully in the fight against terrorism,
especially with those States where or against whose citizens terrorist acts are
committed, in accordance with their obligations under international law, in order to
find, deny safe haven and bring to justice, on the basis of the principle to extradite
or prosecute, any person who supports, facilitates, participates or attempts to
participate in the financing, planning, preparation or commission of terrorist acts or
provides safe havens;
3. Recalls that criminal acts, including against civilians, committed with the
intent to cause death or serious bodily injury, or taking of hostages, with the purpose
to provoke a state of terror in the general public or in a group of persons or
particular persons, intimidate a population or compel a government or an
international organization to do or to abstain from doing any act, which constitute
offences within the scope of and as defined in the international conventions and
protocols relating to terrorism, are under no circumstances justifiable by
considerations of a political, philosophical, ideological, racial, ethnic, religious or
other similar nature, and calls upon all States to prevent such acts and, if not
prevented, to ensure that such acts are punished by penalties consistent with their
grave nature;
4. Calls upon all States to become party, as a matter of urgency, to the
relevant international conventions and protocols whether or not they are a party to
regional conventions on the matter;
5. Calls upon Member States to cooperate fully on an expedited basis in
resolving all outstanding issues with a view to adopting by consensus the draft
comprehensive convention on international terrorism and the draft international
convention for the suppression of acts of nuclear terrorism;
6. Calls upon relevant international, regional and subregional organizations
to strengthen international cooperation in the fight against terrorism and to intensify
their interaction with the United Nations and, in particular, the CTC with a view to
facilitating full and timely implementation of resolution 1373 (2001);
7. Requests the CTC in consultation with relevant international, regional
and subregional organizations and the United Nations bodies to develop a set of best
practices to assist States in implementing the provisions of resolution 1373 (2001)
related to the financing of terrorism;
8. Directs the CTC, as a matter of priority and, when appropriate, in close
cooperation with relevant international, regional and subregional organizations to
start visits to States, with the consent of the States concerned, in order to enhance
the monitoring of the implementation of resolution 1373 (2001) and facilitate the
provision of technical and other assistance for such implementation;
9. Decides to establish a working group consisting of all members of the
Security Council to consider and submit recommendations to the Council on
practical measures to be imposed upon individuals, groups or entities involved in or
associated with terrorist activities, other than those designated by the
Al-Qaida/Taliban Sanctions Committee, including more effective procedures
considered to be appropriate for bringing them to justice through prosecution or
extradition, freezing of their financial assets, preventing their movement through the
territories of Member States, preventing supply to them of all types of arms and
related material, and on the procedures for implementing these measures;
10. Requests further the working group, established under paragraph 9 to
consider the possibility of establishing an international fund to compensate victims
of terrorist acts and their families, which might be financed through voluntary
contributions, which could consist in part of assets seized from terrorist
organizations, their members and sponsors, and submit its recommendations to the
Council;
11. Requests the Secretary-General to take, as a matter of urgency,
appropriate steps to make the CTED fully operational and to inform the Council by
15 November 2004;
12. Decides to remain actively seized of the matter.
 
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no I meant what I said ...a drone is expendable but a spy plane with people inside is not.

Spy planes And Drones are both UNMANNED. Those two are basically UAVs used for different purposes
 
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3. Recalls that criminal acts, including against civilians, committed with the
intent to cause death or serious bodily injury, or taking of hostages, with the purpose
to provoke a state of terror in the general public or in a group of persons or
particular persons, intimidate a population or compel a government or an
international organization to do or to abstain from doing any act, which constitute
offences within the scope of and as defined in the international conventions and
protocols relating to terrorism
This is the general definition of a terrorist. Do prove how the people in FATA fit this?
 
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Bangladesh was created due to the atrocities and not due to the language. Hope you are really from BD

Before the war Mujib convinced people that the West wasnt giving jobs to the East,they were oppressing us,and other stuffs.Majority of the uneducated supported him,and with that half of the intelects.The mains atrocities started after the war.
 
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