Shimon Peres: Israeli war criminal whose victims the West ignored

[Ceylal]

gazans can clearly tell the diffrence, Egypt closes tunnels, Israel kills Hamas and children which Egypt does not.

Yes, Egyptian gards do..They fires on Gazans multiple time, the last time it was a mentally ill who approached the border despite the clameurs coming from the local telling the soldiers not to shoot, he is simpleton.

Once again acting like I'm the Egyptian government. How am I a hyprocrite? Please explain

Just replying to the accusation, that I am hyprocrite..

Also if Algeria will never recognize then why do you say Algeria has no complex against Israel?

Having a complex, means : "having an emotional problem caused by unreasonable fears or worries." self explanatory..For Algeria the state of Israel doesn;t exist period!

F*cked? Are you an Idiot? Is 20,000 dead Egyptians not enough for you spoiled idiots? I'm sorry but we SAVED the Syrians we sacrificed our advantage because Syria pressured Egypt to save Syria.

in the truth of the matter, the countries that participated in the last war put their faith on the Egyptian leadership to go for "Broke" and not to stop the war no matter what it takes. It is was based on this reason that the Syrians attacked in the afternoon, under pressures from Egypt, an unfavorable time for the Syrian who would have preferred the early morning. Jordan learned from 67, not to trust Egypt and Algeria waited for the same reason that the war was ongoing before they send it troops. By stopping the war , Egypt did fu..ck the Syria and Palestine and then the rest of others when Sadat sold to the US Mig 23 for mere $30,000 a piece, with complete Sam's systems for peanuts...That is Egypt for You.

It was Syrian and Palestinian incomptence that lead to them failing to regain their lands. We fought hard and got ours back. Did Syrians do so? NOPE they advanced a couple miles in the Golan and stopped despite the fact that they could keep going. Palestinians were fine with sitting back and enjoying the view.

Like I said above, Egypt screwed the Syrian,and Palestinians weren't the spectators that you describe, but I blame them for giving their cause to Arab states to solve it..Egypt, and Arafat, played a big role in its burial.

Egyptians hate Israel, we will never be associated with Israel. We have a treaty out of necessity.

If that is true, explain to us how a country of 70 millions sole was powerless in stopping Sadat for going to the knesset where he drooped his pants..
For the Sinai, Egypt didn't get it back by the force of arms...that is reality...so case closed.

Israeli blow up? Whats that supposed to mean?

Egypt was Afraid that Israel will get pissed at Egypt..In fact they stopped using the Egyptian soldiers a clay pigeons after Egypt flooded the tunnels.

Then what is an opinion that is devoid of all stupidities? the one where I lick all Agerians shoes and beg all great and glorious Algeria to save us from Israel? Bro please stop, your acting wayyyyyyy too crazy.

I didn't ask you t lick Algerian shoes,or beg, all I am asking you is to be honest with yourself...

 

[JOEY TRIBIANI]

We Muslims should get united against the rejected one(israelis) .

 

[EgyptianAmerican]

Yes, Egyptian gards do..They fires on Gazans multiple time, the last time it was a mentally ill who approached the border despite the clameurs coming from the local telling the soldiers not to shoot, he is simpleton.

Can I change that? Nope, Do I feel bad for it? yes but we are not bombing Gaza and sending Drones into their territory.

Having a complex, means : "having an emotional problem caused by unreasonable fears or worries." self explanatory..For Algeria the state of Israel doesn;t exist period!

Well for the Palestinian people know Israel sure as hell exists.

in the truth of the matter, the countries that participated in the last war put their faith on the Egyptian leadership to go for "Broke" and not to stop the war no matter what it takes.

We did go for broke and we lost and now you critize us for it. Had we not gone for broke then I guess Algeria wouldn't have to send an armoured brigade...

It is was based on this reason that the Syrians attacked in the afternoon, under pressures from Egypt

There was no pressures to Syria from Egypt, we had a plan and we completed our part, Assad didn't.

Jordan learned from 67, not to trust Egypt and Algeria waited for the same reason that the war was ongoing before they send it troops. By stopping the war

We did not stop the war, we advanced 10 kilometers in the Sinai and destroyed any counter-attacks from Israel and we held our ground. While Syria advances 1 miles then stops for the night to take a break. \

Egypt did fu..ck the Syria and Palestine and then the rest of others when Sadat sold to the US Mig 23 for mere $30,000 a piece, with complete Sam's systems for peanuts...That is Egypt for You.

Egypt did not f*ck anyone, we completed our part. Just because Palestinians of that generation are lazy people who refuse to fight for their country or the Syrians who were the most incompetent.

Like I said above, Egypt screwed the Syrian,and Palestinians weren't the spectators that you describe, but I blame them for giving their cause to Arab states to solve it..Egypt, and Arafat, played a big role in its burial.

At most there was a couple palestinian commandos other then that the 99% of Palestinians decided to watch while their Arab brothers died for their state.

Though nowadays the Palestinians of today are much more active and wouldn't have acted like that generation today.

If that is true, explain to us how a country of 70 millions sole was powerless in stopping Sadat for going to the knesset where he drooped his pants..

He was a good president and we shattered the image of Israeli invincibilty. In the End you should know that Sadat was murdered for that treaty by his fellow Egyptians.

For the Sinai, Egypt didn't get it back by the force of arms...that is reality...so case closed.

Exactly instead of winning the war on the battlefield we won it on the bargaining table. War won case closed.

Egypt was Afraid that Israel will get pissed at Egypt.

Is that why we placed SAM systems in the Sinai without their permission or deploy more troops without their permision? We are not afraid of anything, but we have bigger fish to fry then Israel. The Egyptian economy is falling apart.

I didn't ask you t lick Algerian shoes,or beg, all I am asking you is to be honest with yourself...

I am honest with myself, because I don't believe in conspiracy theories.

We Muslims should get united against the rejected one(israelis) .

We should buy some Al-Khalid from Pakistan.

 

[Ceylal]

Can I change that? Nope, Do I feel bad for it? yes but we are not bombing Gaza and sending Drones into their territory.

Bombing Gaza , will make Egypt loose her pants, they are barely hanging at her ankle..Egypt doesn't have drones, all the droning is made by Israel on Egypt behalf.

Well for the Palestinian people know Israel sure as hell exists.

Egypt helped consolidate that state in the detriment of the Palestinians.

We did go for broke and we lost and now you critize us for it. Had we not gone for broke then I guess Algeria wouldn't have to send an armoured brigade...

No, Egypt didn't plan for it and lied about it to the other states ie Syria, Iraq and Algeria.That is the reason Algeria waited to make sure that Sadat was serious before sending the troops. Shazly visited Algeria long before the hostilities debut, but nobody believed him, since in the time of his visits Syria lost like several dozen of Migs against Israelis..

There was no pressures to Syria from Egypt, we had a plan and we completed our part, Assad didn't.

True statement..Egypt completed it main goal, that was the second plan, the first to drive Israel to the 67 borders, that was presented to Syria, Irak and Algeria was a complete lie.

We did not stop the war, we advanced 10 kilometers in the Sinai and destroyed any counter-attacks from Israel and we held our ground. While Syria advances 1 miles then stops for the night to take a break. \

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War is not a voyage for tourism.That break like you said, although it wasn't, helped the Israeli to surround two your armies...

Egypt did not f*ck anyone, we completed our part. Just because Palestinians of that generation are lazy people who refuse to fight for their country or the Syrians who were the most incompetent.

Here we go again, Palestinians participated and Syriens were more competent than the Egyptian soldiers..Hell, your officers couldn't differenciate between a whistling of an artillery shell and the noise of a fighter jet engine...

At most there was a couple palestinian commandos other then that the 99% of Palestinians decided to watch while their Arab brothers died for their state.

Bullshit

Though nowadays the Palestinians of today are much more active and wouldn't have acted like that generation today.

It does not matter which generation of Palestinians you are talking about, they are the same...If Egyptian had to fight for their country, like the Palestinian did...you wouldn't say something that stupid.

He was a good president and we shattered the image of Israeli invincibilty. In the End you should know that Sadat was murdered for that treaty by his fellow Egyptians.

In the time everybody new what would be his finality. He was a traitor and died like a traitor.

Exactly instead of winning the war on the battlefield we won it on the bargaining table. War won case closed.

You all won shit! Egypt still have , as today's date, get an approval from Israel each time ,for a military truck , to cross into the Sinai

Is that why we placed SAM systems in the Sinai without their permission or deploy more troops without their permision? We are not afraid of anything, but we have bigger fish to fry then Israel. The Egyptian economy is falling apart.

Placed SAM systems in the Sinai, against whom? are you smocking?

I am honest with myself, because I don't believe in conspiracy theories.

You need to diverse your reading material...its seems very scampy.

 

[EgyptianAmerican]

Bombing Gaza , will make Egypt loose her pants, they are barely hanging at her ankle..Egypt doesn't have drones, all the droning is made by Israel on Egypt behalf.

More accusations, please bring proof to the table.

Egypt helped consolidate that state in the detriment of the Palestinians.

Whatever you want to believe

No, Egypt didn't plan for it and lied about it to the other states ie Syria, Iraq and Algeria.That is the reason Algeria waited to make sure that Sadat was serious before sending the troops. Shazly visited Algeria long before the hostilities debut, but nobody believed him, since in the time of his visits Syria lost like several dozen of Migs against Israelis..

Syria pressured us and we advanced deep in the Sinai against a prepared Israel, we got screwed while Syria didn't do Squat.

Syria wanted to retake their old territory too not make 1967 Israel again.

True statement..Egypt completed it main goal, that was the second plan, the first to drive Israel to the 67 borders, that was presented to Syria, Irak and Algeria was a complete lie.

When did we say we were pushing Israel back to the 67 borders? They and you assumed something Egypt did not say we would do.

Here we go again, Palestinians participated and Syriens were more competent than the Egyptian soldiers..Hell, your officers couldn't differenciate between a whistling of an artillery shell and the noise of a fighter jet engine...

Please tell me your kidding... Syrians would laugh and watch from their roofs as Israelis bombed their Capital at least our soldiers would be vigilant. Syrians were by far the stupidest.

Bullshit

More denial, admit it the palestinians of that age did nothing.

It does not matter which generation of Palestinians you are talking about, they are the same...If Egyptian had to fight for their country, like the Palestinian did...you wouldn't say something that stupid.

They were different. Had the Palestinians of that day been like the Palestinians of today we would be seeing Palestine on our Maps instead of Israel.

You all won shit! Egypt still have , as today's date, get an approval from Israel each time ,for a military truck , to cross into the Sinai

You clearly havent heard about all the times we deployed 100s of troops without Israels approval.

Placed SAM systems in the Sinai, against whom? are you smocking?

Who do you think? Israel duh.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/159296
Israel has demanded that Egypt withdraw the American MBTs and missiles from eastern Sinai. The United States has acknowledged discussions with Cairo and Jerusalem over the Egyptian military deployment in Sinai. On Aug. 23, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton telephoned her Egyptian counterpart to review Israeli complaints over violations of the demilitarization of the peninsula.

“This call was in keeping with a series of contacts that we’ve had in recent days with both Egyptians and Israelis,” State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said, “encouraging both sides to keep the lines of communication open between them, to talk directly about any issues of concern, and the importance of working through the security challenges in the Sinai in a way that, first and foremost, strengthens Egypt’s security, but also has a positive impact on the security of neighbors and the region as a whole.”

Meanwhile, the United States Department of Defense has awarded an $8.7 million contract to United Technologies for support of F100-PW-229 engines for Egypt’s order of 20 F-16 Block 52 multi-role fighters. The Tribune said that the Egyptian Air Force has flown at least two F-16s near the Israeli border in August.

Guess we arent asking Israel to do anything are we?

And what the hell is smocking? Are you smoking something?

You need to diverse your reading material...its seems very scampy.

Scampy? very roguish? What?


My reading material is quite diverse trust me.

 

[Ceylal]

More accusations, please bring proof to the table

Apparently you have posted the video revenge of Egypt without seeing it.....It's all there...

When did we say we were pushing Israel back to the 67 borders? They and you assumed something Egypt did not say we would do.

again, see your tape..

Please tell me your kidding... Syrians would laugh and watch from their roofs as Israelis bombed their Capital at least our soldiers would be vigilant. Syrians were by far the stupidest.

I know Syrians were crying for believing Sadat words..which was a lie..Like I tried to you..over and over again..

You clearly havent heard about all the times we deployed 100s of troops without Israels approval.

Yes, with the Israeli ok, and the few time Egypt them without Israel ok, she had to withdraw them in a hurry.

Who do you think? Israel duh.

Egypt duh..

And Egypt doesn't have attack drones...

 

[EgyptianAmerican]

Apparently you have posted the video revenge of Egypt without seeing it.....It's all there...

No it's not, what does the 73 war have to do with Egypt controlling Israeli drones? Dude stop smoking.

again, see your tape..

The tape clearly says that Egypt wanted to advance across the Suez and not go farther.

I know Syrians were crying for believing Sadat words..which was a lie..Like I tried to you..over and over again..

Watch the Tape.

Yes, with the Israeli ok, and the few time Egypt them without Israel ok, she had to withdraw them in a hurry.

More denial...

And Egypt doesn't have attack drones...

Who said anything about attack drones? Bro you need to stop smoking before you comment.

 

[Ceylal]

No it's not, what does the 73 war have to do with Egypt controlling Israeli drones? Dude stop smoking.

I have never said that...I said the only drone flying in the area are Israelis for Egypt benefit...

The tape clearly says that Egypt wanted to advance across the Suez and not go farther.

That not what was told to Algeria, Iraq and Syria by Sadat.

Watch the Tape.

Same suggestion to you..At least I did watch the tape, apparently from your answers you didn't.

More denial...

Come up with better argument

Who said anything about attack drones? Bro you need to stop smoking before you comment.

You did..I am not dreaming things...It seems your memory has a short span.

 

[EgyptianAmerican]

That not what was told to Algeria, Iraq and Syria by Sadat.

Am I supposed to care what Sadat said to Algeria,Iraq or Syria?

Same suggestion to you..At least I did watch the tape, apparently from your answers you didn't.

Your answers show you clearly did not.

Come up with better argument

It's YOU who needs a better argument since you have no proof.

You did..I am not dreaming things...It seems your memory has a short span.

It was actually you, You clearly need to re-read the comments because I'm not going to have a conversation with a dumbass.

 

[Ceylal]

Am I supposed to care what Sadat said to Algeria,Iraq or Syria?

Nobody gives a flying fu..ck what you think. But Algerian do! we lost our brothers and father for you fucking nitwits!

It was actually you, You clearly need to re-read the comments because I'm not going to have a conversation with a dumbass.

You call me a dumbass..Let see if you are right..
The Israeli shit on you, you just wipe it off and smile
The Sauds and the GCC perverts, come to Egypt to use her little girls for piece de resistance with the approval of the Egyptian government and egyptian families for few rials...In fact both welcome these worts to abuse the little boys and girls...
Sissi cede an Egyptian territory to the Sauds and the Egyptians like bitches..

As Egyptian you have a lot to be proud of...

[video]

Algerians are better men and Algeria is better country

 

[Solomon2]

The sickness of narrative thinking
Op-ed: In recent years, the truth has fallen casualty to storytelling; the Palestinian narrative of the Nakba must not override the truth that the Arab armies came to try and destroy Israel in its inception, and must not infantilize the Arab population by not holding them accountable for their actions.
Ben-Dror Yemini | Published: 10.10.16 , 23:31

A severe disease has stricken the institutes of knowledge, media, and academia in Israel. It's the disease of narrative thinking. There is no longer and truth, no historic facts. We are living in a new world. Instead of serious research aimed at finding the truth, the world now sees reality through different stories, with each community, group, people, and country having its own.

Case in point, the claims made by MK Ayman Odeh (leader of the Joint List party) following the death of former president Shimon Peres. According to Odeh, the "Palestinians of 1948" (how Israeli-Arabs define themselves), who experienced the "Nakba," are victims of the Zionist enterprise, of which Peres is a main representative. So why should the victim come to the criminal's funeral?

And so, things should be made clear: There was indeed a Nakba. There was a disaster. Crimes were committed during the Independence War, whose victims were local Arab people. And those who would deny this are at least as bad as MK Odeh and his "narrative." We need to acknowledge this not in order to identify with the victims on a human level (not that this is unimportant), but because these are facts.

The thing is, MK Odeh ignores the fact that the Arab leadership of that period, to which he is a successor, mad it unequivocally clear: Not only are we not interested in compromise and in a division of lands, we plan on conducting a massacre.



Odeh. Stuck in a narrative, ignoring the facts. (Photo: Motti Kimchi)


There was no guarantee that the Jews would win. Initially, the Arab invasion was successful. The people of pre-state Israel were scared. Parts of the land given to the Jewish state were conquered. The threat was very real. There were quite a few failures. The Old City of Jerusalem remained in Arab control.


The Arab side's intentions are fairly easy to interpret. The mufti, Haj Amin al-Husseini, wrote that, "Cooperation with Nazi Germany is meant to give a free hand to destroy all Jews in Arab countries and in Palestine." The mufti managed to escape trial for cooperating with the Nazis and became the leader who spearheaded the most extreme radical line of thinking in the Arab world.

Then-Secretary-General of the Arab League Abdul Rahman Azzam, said, "This will be a war of destruction and a great massacre." Then-Prime Minister of Iraq Nuri al-Said claimed, "We will crush the state with our guns and destroy any place in which the Jews seek shelter." Then-leader of the Muslim Brotherhood Hassan al-Banna stated that, "If the Jewish state becomes a fact, The Arab peoples will throw the Jews living amongst them into the sea."


We could go on, there's more where that came from. The Holocaust was just three years prior. The Jews were a refugee people, not colonialists. If the Jewish entity were defeated, it would have ended in genocide. It didn't happen. There was a rough war; here and there, during battle, there were forced relocations. 711,000 people became refugees. But in those years, it was the norm. Tens of millions became refugees at the end of World War 2. In addition, more Jews were evicted from and robbed by Arab staes. It happened due to the Arab League's decisions , as well as a series of pogroms and killings. That was the Jewish Nakba. It was more severe than the Palestinian version.


All this has been well-known, not just to Zionist historians. Odeh's predecessors in the Communist party signed the Israeli Decleration of Independence. One of them, Tawfik Toubi, took pride that, "The reactionary Arab leaders couldn't foil the establishment of a Jewish State according to the UN's partition resolution." How far apart Toubi and Odeh are.


Haj Amin al-Husseini and Nazi leader Adolf Hitler. (Photo: Heinrich Hoffmann)


Toubi wasn't a subdued Arab man - he was proud. Odeh is moving backwards. He moved over to the reactionaries' side. He's fallen deep into the waters of the narrative sea, and is encouraged by academics who've sold their souls to the lies. First among them is Odeh's party member, Dr. Illan Pappe', who has openly stated, "The struggle is over ideology, not facts. We are trying to convince as many people as possible due to ideological reasons, not because we seek the truth." Pappe's Ideology is clear: The elimination of the Zionist entity. He's on the Mufti's side, not on Toubi's.

These narratives have become a major obstacle of peace and reconciliation. If Odeh and others believe Zionism is a crime and that they are clean, then their stubbornness is justified and the only way forward is to fight. The abused and abuser need not compromise: The abuser must be punished. So, according to Odeh's worldview, and the "narrative" he believes in, there's no need to go to Shimon Peres' funeral. He needs to be shunned. Peres isn't any ordinary abuser: He's a mega-abuser.

And so, we need to fight the illness of narrative thinking especially since it belittles Arab people. It's condescending. It relieves them of responsibility, as is done to children or mentally challenged adults. And even though some parts of the world treat Arabs as inferior, they are not so. The day the condescending people who pretend they are enlightened understand that the Arabs are equal adults, the chances of reaching a compromise will rise greatly. For all of our sakes, it better come soon.

When I heard of Peres' death, I was at the home of some Arab friends in Paris. Unlike what some may think, the news stations of the Arab world did not express hatred or glee. They addressed the matter factually and coldly. There were no descriptions of Peres as a "Zionist war criminal."

In that sense, the Arab response was reasonable. It seems that this was also the response of most Arab Israelis. True, they voted in droves for the Joint Arab List. But a vote for a party does not, of course, imply a total agreement with the party's political actions. Most Likud voters oppose a bi-national state, even though many of the party's MKs support the idea of one big country. The same is true for Israeli-Arabs.

The tragedy is that history is repeating itself. Most Palestinian Arabs during the War of Independence weren't involved in decision-making or in fighting - the Mufti decided for them. This story is coming back. The Arabs of Israel are once more victims of a stubborn, reactionary, unrealistic, narrative-worshiping leadership.

Ayman Odeh insists on walking the Mufti's path. For the sake of Israeli-Arabs and peace , we should hope an Israeli-Arab leadership emerges that will push all Israeli citizens forward - Jews and Arab alike - towards progress and away from collapse. Inshallah.

bdyemini@gmail.com

 

[EgyptianAmerican]

Nobody gives a flying fu..ck what you think. But Algerian do! we lost our brothers and father for you fucking nitwits!

Not really, you ninwits paid off some news anchors to mention Algerian soldiers in Egypt when in Reality you didn't do jack but steal credit, Is this where your oil money is going to instead of your education systems? Bribing Media stations in Egypt to give a passing mention to your pathetic attempt at claiming Egyptian combat roles? Spare us your petty nonsense. Algeria didn't lose anyone in this war except a few pilots.

The Israeli shit on you, you just wipe it off and smile
The Sauds and the GCC perverts, come to Egypt to use her little girls for piece de resistance with the approval of the Egyptian government and egyptian families for few rials...In fact both welcome these worts to abuse the little boys and girls...
Sissi cede an Egyptian territory to the Sauds and the Egyptians like bitches..

As Egyptian you have a lot to be proud of...

Is this how you back up your nonsensical arguments? with slander and nonsense? Instead of providing proof you went on to say a bunch of bull. Sorry but that just proves my point, your absolutely batshit insane.

Algerians are better men and Algeria is better country

Please shut up with your ultra-nationalism. let's be honest here, you have no history and no culture.

Your people are dumb and your team sucks at soccer. Pretty much sums up Algeria the crappy country of North Africa.

Algeria is stuck in 1900s attempting to stay relevant when the only people know you exist are your fellow North Africans and France. Ask anyone else in the world and they wouldn't even know what Algeria is, but ask anyone in the world about Egypt and they will give you 10 facts about Ancient Egypt off the top of their heads.

Here is a Algerian explaining how crappy Algeria is

http://sensanostra.com/rich-but-poor

I have tried to be civil with you but all you do is spew insults and lies. I have never insulted your country of origin but you have insulted mine many times. You need to wake up and realize you Algerians are completely irrelevant your only legacy is Carthage which is Tunisian and Rome conquering you.

I mean even your flag looks gay.

What the hell is this? is it Christmas? Crescent and Star? Get an Original flag losers.

 

[Ceylal]

Not really, you ninwits paid off some news anchors to mention Algerian soldiers in Egypt when in Reality you didn't do jack but steal credit, Is this where your oil money is going to instead of your education systems? Bribing Media stations in Egypt to give a passing mention to your pathetic attempt at claiming Egyptian combat roles? Spare us your petty nonsense. Algeria didn't lose anyone in this war except a few pilots.

I put an Egypt video, made by Egyptian TV...It wasn't an Algerian production...
Because the one made by Algeria, Showed that most Egyptian officers, beside not knowing a difference between an artillery shell and the sound of jet, were in cahoot with Israeli command and gave the position occupied by the Algerian soldiers...Amazing the first Algerian air force plane a MIG 17 , was shot by the Egyptian not the Israelis.

Egyptian are traitors and born traitors, that your contemporary trait..it's in your gene..

Is this how you back up your nonsensical arguments? with slander and nonsense? Instead of providing proof you went on to say a bunch of bull. Sorry but that just proves my point, your absolutely batshit insane.

The only thing you need is to read or google it..The GCC's perverts turned to Egypt for their vice with Government closing its eyes and poor families has not choice bu to cave in to the RIAL...

Please shut up with your ultra-nationalism. let's be honest here, you have no history and no culture.

And you Egypt does without the north Africans Berbers
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List of Berber Personalities In History
Ancient Berber Kings, Queens & Personalities

• Shoshenq I: (Shishenq I): Berber Pharaoh, founder of the Egyptian 22nd dynasty (945-924 BC); (946-925); (943-922)? Shoshenk's daughter was married to king Solomon, who built a special palace for her.
• Wayheset: Libyan king.
• Osorkon I: Berber King, probably son of Shoshenq from Karima (Egyptian 22nd dynasty: 924-889 BC).
• Queen Makere: wife of King Osorkon I.
• Shoshenq II: Berber King (Egyptian 22nd dynasty: 890-889 BC).
• Takeloth I: Berber King (Egyptian 22nd dynasty: 889-874 BC).
• Osorkon II: Berber King (Egyptian 22nd dynasty: 874-850 BC).
• Horseise: Hight Preist of Amon: son of Sheshonk II.
• Takeloth II: Berber King (Egyptian 22nd dynasty: 850-825 BC).
• Amazigh chief Larbas: negotiated a deal to marry Princess Dido in 814 BC (Tarshish: Carthage)?
• Pediese: Great Chief of the Meshwesh.
• Hetihenker: Great Chief of the Meshwesh.
• Shoshenq Ill: Berber King (Egyptian 22nd dynasty 825-773 BC).
• Pimay ('The Cat'): son of Shoshenq III: (Egyptian 22nd dynasty 773-767 BC).
• Bakennefi: brother of Pimay: Prince of Heliopolis.
• Shoshenq IV: Berber King (Egyptian 22nd dynasty 767-730 BC).
• Osorkon IV: Berber King (Egyptian 22nd dynasty: 730-715).
• Pedubast: Berber King (Egyptian 23rd dynasty).
• Input II: Berber King (Egyptian 23rd dynasty).
• Sheshong VI: Berber King (Egyptian 23rd dynasty).
• Osorkon III: Berber King (Egyptian 23rd dynasty).
• Takeloth III: Berber King (Egyptian 23rd dynasty).
• Rudamon: Berber King: (Egyptian 23rd dynasty).
• Tefnakht: Berber King, founder of the Egyptian 24th dynasty (unified the Delta).
• Bocchoris: Berber King (Egyptian 23rd dynasty).
• Masinissa: King of Numidia.
• Jugurtha: King of Numidia.
• Juba II: King of Numidia.
• Macrinus: Roman emperor.
• Clodius Albinus: ruler of Britannia.
• Lusius Quietus: ruler of Judaea.
• Quintus Lollius Urbicus: ruler of Britannia (138 – 144 AD).
• Septimius Severus: Libyan Roman emperor (193 – 211 AD).
• Tacfarinas: (Leader of the wars against the Romans in the Aures Mountains).
• Firmus: (fought the Romans: 372 – 375).
• Gildo: (fought the Romans in 398).
• Publius Terentius Afer (Terence: writer, Latin).
  
  
• Lucius Apuleius: author of "The Transformations of Lucius Apuleius of Madaura", otherwise known as "The Golden ***". Wonderful work of written-art. A maze of clues. A treasure for the future to indulge. Humour at its best. Queen Isis.
  
  
• Priscian: (Latin grammarian).
• Marcus Cornelius Fronto: (Roman grammarian).
• Saint Augustine of Hippo: Christian philosopher; the founder of Christian Philosophy).
• Saint Monica of Hippo: (Saint Augustine's mother).
• Arius: (proposed the doctrine of Arianism).
• Donatus Magnus: (head of Donatist School).
• Gelasius I: (Pope: 492-496).
• Victor I: (Pope: 186-201).
• Miltiades: (Pope: 311-314).
• Abd ar-Rahman I: (731-788).
• Al-Mansur: (712-775).
• Tariq ibn Ziyad (Zeyyad): (leader of the army that invaded Spain in 711 AD).
• Adrian of Canterbury: Abbot of St Augustine's Abbey in Canterbury.
  
  
• Dihya: Kahina: Berber Queen, Priestess and War General; the fiercest Berber leader who defended her nation to death. According to the Arab generals themselves, she defeated them like no other general had done before her, and that whenever a Berber tribe is slaughtered, another emerged from the mirage like the jinn of the desert.
  
  
• Aksil: Kusayla: King or tribal leader.
• Salih ibn Tarif of Berghouata: translated the Koran to Berber.
• Abbas Ibn Firnas: first man to fly.
• Ibn Tumart: founder of the Almohad dynasty.
• Yusuf ibn Tashfin: Almoravid dynasty.
• Al Idrisi: scientist and geographer.
• Ibn Battuta: traveller.
• Ibn Khaldoun: histography.
• Leo Africanus: geographer and historian.
• Abu Yaqub Yusuf I.
• Abu Yaqub Yusuf II.
• Ziri ibn Manad: founder of Zirid dynasty.
• Muhammad Awzal.
• Muhammad al-Jazuli: Sufi.
• Imam al-Busiri: poet.
• Abu Ali al-Hassan al-Yusi.

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Where would have been Egypt without those named above..Who is the magpie here?

Your people are dumb and your team sucks at soccer. Pretty much sums up Algeria the crappy country of North Africa.

Algerian are better men, a lot more than the who have the "for sale sign " stuck to their behind. For Soccer, they will be at the 2018 World cup, just worry about your team.
Algeria is a "crappy country" ? is her gas that warm your @sses crappy? Algeria it may crappy to you, but not to the majority of Egyptian that come to her for a hand out, for a job, for a dick...

Algeria is stuck in 1900s attempting to stay relevant when the only people know you exist are your fellow North Africans and France. Ask anyone else in the world and they wouldn't even know what Algeria is

The one that counts do..and know her very well..

but ask anyone in the world about Egypt and they will give you 10 facts about Ancient Egypt off the top of their heads.

Of course they know Egypt, she is on life support and on an An AMERICAN FOOD STAMPS CARD...

Here is a Algerian explaining how crappy Algeria is

http://sensanostra.com/rich-but-poor

That was 1991...Egypt is living now, we will see how she fears...

I have tried to be civil with you but all you do is spew insults and lies. I have never insulted your country of origin but you have insulted mine many times.

I didn't insult you, If I want to insult you there plenty of reasons...

I mean even your flag looks gay.

It is a happy flag , floating on the land of the free and on the home of the brave...
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What the hell is this? is it Christmas? Crescent and Star? Get an Original flag losers. [/QUOTE]
Crescent for broad shoulders and Star, a point of focus to our ennemies, and a ninja shuriken for those who dare us. Maybe the Egyptian flag is fit for a dishrag , but the Algerian flag , is an Algeria's organ made from our blood, our tears, our suffering...It wasn't made by the British like yours...Its home made stitch by stitch..

We swear by the lightning that destroys ,
By the blood flow boiling ,
At the edge of the light wave the flag ,
Flutters on the high and distant mountains ,
We will rise , and whether living or dead ,
We are determined that Algeria shall live -
Be our witness -Be -Be our witness our witness !

We are soldiers fighting for the truth
And we have been fighting for independence .
When we speak , we hear nothing ,
So we have taken the bullets sound as our rhythm
And the sound of machine guns as our melody ,
We are determined that Algeria shall live -
Be our witness -Be -Be our witness our witness !

O France , the time of insult was over,
Was terminated as the conclusion of a book
O France , this is the day of reckoning
Get ready to receive an answer from us !
In our revolution , extinct every word wind ;
We are determined that Algeria shall live -
Be our witness -Be -Be our witness our witness !

From our heroes will we shape our military ,
Of those who die we build glory ,
Our spirit will prevail
And on our shoulders will be waved banners .
To our country 's Liberation Line swear ,
We are determined that Algeria shall live -
Be our witness -Be -Be our witness our witness !

Shouts home from the battlefield .
Listen and answered them a call !
Let it be written with the blood of fighters
And be read to future generations .
Oh , Glory , we hold out our hand to you ,
We are determined that Algeria shall live -
Be our witness -Be -Be our witness our witness !


قسما بالنازلات الماحقات
و الدماء الزاكيات الطاهرات
و البنود اللامعات الخافقات
في الجبال الشامخات الشاهقات
نحن ثرنا فحياة أو ممات
و عقدنا العزم أن تحيا الجزائر
فاشهدوا... فاشهدوا... فاشهدوا...

نحن جند في سبيل الحق ثرنا
و إلى استقلالنا بالحرب قمنا
لم يكن يصغى لنا لما نطقنا
فاتخذنا رنة البارود وزنا
و عزفنا نغمة الرشاش لحنا
وعقدنا العزم أن تحيا الجزائر
فاشهدوا... فاشهدوا... فاشهدوا...

يا فرنسا قد مضى وقت العتاب
و طويناه كما يطوى الكتاب
يا فرنسا ان ذا يوم الحساب
فاستعدي وخذي منا الجواب
ان في ثورتنا فصل الخطاب
و عقدنا العزم ان تحيا الجزائر
فاشهدوا... فاشهدوا... فاشهدوا...

نحن من أبطالنا ندفع جندا
و على أشلائنا نصنع مجدا
و على أرواحنا نصعد خلدا
و على هاماتنا نرفع بندا
جبهة التحرير أعطيناك عهدا
و عقدنا العزم أن تحيا الجزائر
فاشهدوا... فاشهدوا... فاشهدوا...

صرخة الأوطان من ساح الفدا
فاسمعوها واستجيبوا للندا
و اكتبوها بدماء الشهدا
و اقرأوها لبني الجيل غدا
قد مددنا لك يا مجد يدا
و عقدنا العزم أن تحيا الجزائر
فاشهدوا... فاشهدوا... فاشهدو

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[EgyptianAmerican]

I put an Egypt video, made by Egyptian TV...It wasn't an Algerian production.

I wouldn't put Algeria as above bribing Egyptian TV stations to give Egyptian combat roles to Algerians. Why don't you fight your own war instead of claiming ours.

Egyptian are traitors and born traitors, that your contemporary trait..it's in your gene..

Your very funny, you know that?

And you Egypt does without the north Africans Berbers
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List of Berber Personalities In History
Ancient Berber Kings, Queens & Personalities

• Bull

Ohhhh Yes trying to steal the Libyans achievements, also by the way all of these are wayyyyy after even the 10th dynasty, so no you didn't make Egypt or anything of the sort in fact had these people not existed history would most likely be the same.


Where did you even get this? Some Algerian site?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Berber_people

• Osorkon the Elder was the fifth king of the twenty-first dynasty of Ancient Egypt and was the first Pharaoh of Libyan origin.
• Shoshenq I (Berber: Cicnaq), Egyptian Pharaoh of Libyan origin, founder of the Twenty-second dynasty of Egypt
• The rest are completley irrelavant considering they are libyans and not Algerians when was the last time that Algeria had an Ancient figure? Let me answer for you, NONE

Don't see anymore then that and their not even Algerian, nice try at trying to steal our ancient civilization but I guess what should we expect from Dirty thieving Algerians who can't do jack themselves.

Algeria is a "crappy country" ? is her gas that warm your @sses crappy? Algeria it may crappy to you, but not to the majority of Egyptian that come to her for a hand out, for a job, for a dick...

It's not just me it's also your fellow Algerians who have actually lived in the country.

Of course they know Egypt, she is on life support and on an An AMERICAN FOOD STAMPS CARD...

LOL you're just jealous our culture and ancient history is taught all around the world and has praised heaped on it from every country while yours is not even known.

That was 1991...Egypt is living now, we will see how she fears...

Dude says he still visits and doesn't like the country, instead of bothering us why don't you go fix your country.

Crescent for broad shoulders and Star, a point of focus to our ennemies, and a ninja shuriken for those who dare us. Maybe the Egyptian flag is fit for a dishrag , but the Algerian flag , is an Algeria's organ made from our blood, our tears, our suffering...It wasn't made by the British like yours...Its home made stitch by stitch..

Is this how you cover up your insecurities? By making up stuff off the top of your head? Algerians flags are treated like trash by even Algerians mainly because they grab tunisian and libyan flags(also the history and culture of both considering your previous comment) and pretend it's theirs because thats how Algerians are.


Also you should know which Egyptian flag you are talking about. This is the British one,


1881 – 1914 Flag of the Khedivate of Egypt under British occupation

, he is ours.





A hell of a lot more Original then copy cat Algeria's.

Do you seriously think that you are the only one with a National anthem? LOL dude please cut out your Algerian nationalism partly because you got conquered by the FRENCH, dude that's hilarious the European country that runs from every fight colonized you. That's just sad.




P.S your de-railing the thread loser.

 

[Takaavar]

UN confirmed use of chemical weapons by Assad against own people and Assad survives solely thanks to massive Iranian aid.

Chemical attacks, if it has actually happened, has not and will never be backed by Iran, no matter who is doing it.

You cant barrel bomb, starve and fry people alive with thermite on daily basis and then whine about one 20 year old errant shelling case.

There's an ongoing war in Syria. But what you have done in Palestine is not war at all, it is unique to Israel.