Shenyang J-15 aircraft carrier-based aircraft

[cirr]

I re-did my production rate calculation ... and the result – especially if mated with the c/ns – is interesting, since it fits nicely:


Batch 01:

No. 100 = c/n 0101 - 22.4.14
No. 101 = c/n 0102 - 2.5.14
No. 102 = c/n 0103 - 2.12.13
No. 103 = c/n 0104 - 2.12.13
No. 104 = c/n 0105 - 19.5.14
No. 105 = c/n 0106 - 22.5.14
No. 106 = c/n 0107 - 20.3.15
No. 107 = c/n 0108 - 1.10.14
No. 108 = c/n 0109 - 1.10.14
No. 109 = c/n 0110 - 12.11.14
... so these are 10 aircraft between December 2013 and November 2014 = 10 J-15 in 12 months (maybe less)


Batch 02:

No. 110 = c/n 0201 - 5.9.15
No. 111 = c/n 0202 - 12.10.15
No. 112 = c/n 0203 - 23.9.15
No. 113 = c/n 0204 - 3.9.15
No. 114 = c/n 0205 - 12.10.15
No. 115 = c/n 0206 - 12.6.16
No. 116 = c/n 0207 - 16.8.16
No. 117 = c/n 0208 - 16.5.16 ... reportedly lost
No. 118 = c/n 0209 - 31.11.16
No. 119 = c/n 0210 - 30.11.16
No. 120 = c/n 0211 - 15.12.16
... so these are 11 aircraft between September 2015 and December 2016 = 11 J-15 in 16 months (maybe less)


Would be interesting is the batch 01 J-16 fit exactly into this break of J-15-production, how many are produced and if the J-11B and BS production is continuing at a second line in parallel.

Deino

117 has been mended.

 

[Deino]

117 has been mended.

Indeed !?? That would be fine.

 

[Akasa]

117 has been mended.

Isn't that usually more expensive than writing it off an building a new one (perhaps the damage wasn't as irrevocable as previously thought)?

 

[Deino]

117 has been mended.

By the way, there is this report stating that in 2016 2 J-15 were lost ??? Do You have any more info on this ?

Here is a list compiled by Chinese news releases on the recent PLA, PLAAF and PLANAF accidents:

Total: 10 aircraft and 7 lives lost

PLAAF: 5 aircraft, 1 pilot

1x J-10S
2x J-10A
1x JH-7A


PLANAF: 4 aircraft, 3 pilots and 1trainee

1x J-10A
1x J-11BH
2x J-15
1x JL-8

PLA Army Aviation: One helicopter and 2 pilots

1x Mi-171

http://china-defense.blogspot.de/2016/11/chinese-military-aircraft-accidents-jan.html

 

[Beast]

This is just too awesome and at 1:14 the pilot's helmet reads "SHOOT IT!"

By the way, in the video it mention AWACS take off first but they did not show anything. Can it be Y-7 AWACS?

If its the Z-18J, why would they not want to show it?

 

[Deino]

By the way, in the video it mention AWACS take off first but they did not show anything. Can it be Y-7 AWACS?

If its the Z-18J, why would they not want to show it?

As far as I know, for the PLN either KJ-200 or -500 were also participating shore-based, but surely not from the Liaoning.

 

[Beast]

As far as I know, for the PLN either KJ-200 or -500 were also participating shore-based, but surely not from the Liaoning.

How can you be so sure? Based on what? If CV-16 having such a major simulate exercise needed shored based AWACS instead of relying on itself AWACS, it completely defeat the purpose of having a CV and this exercise...

 

[Deino]

It is plain and simple logic and has nothing - not that least - to do with my inability to read Chinese: China simply does not have a carrier-borne AEW/AWACS ...


Do You really think that they were testing such an aircraft out of the blue and we did not even get aware of its first flight, its further testing and begin of serial production ???

So please be realistic !

 

[Beast]

It is plain and simple logic and has nothing - not that least - to do with my inability to read Chinese: China simply does not have a carrier-borne AEW/AWACS ...


Do You really think that they were testing such an aircraft out of the blue and we did not even get aware of its first flight, its further testing and begin of serial production ???

So please be realistic !

What nonsense are you talking about? Dont tell me you do not know Z-18J?

 

[Deino]

What nonsense are you talking about? Dont tell me you do not know Z-18J? If its the Z-18J, why would they not want to show it?

And what BS are You talking again ??!! To admit I really have enough of Your constant attacks !


You were speaking about an carrier-borne AEW-plane ...

.... Can it be Y-7 AWACS?

...so don't twist again words only to fit Your aggression.

Deino

 

[Beast]

And what BS are You talking again ??!! To admit I really have enough of Your constant attacks !


You were speaking about an carrier-borne AEW-plane ...


...so don't twist again words only to fit Your aggression.

Deino

If not ship borne AEW, they can used Z-18J. Why would they need to fly an AWACS from land?

No carrier aircraft AWACS, use helo AWACS. But why did they not showed the helo? And I seriously doubt the AWACS is launched from land based. Once again it defeat the purpose of having an CV.

 

[Deino]

Dear @Beast, I make it plain and simple:

You asked, what kind of AEW-PLANE from the carrier the PLN used and even suggested the Y-7-AEW ... what I replied as impossible ! And now You are again in wild-boar modus, calling me stupid and making chest-thumps as if I do not know the Z-18J ... that I never mentioned, that I am fully aware of but intentionally omitted since it was not the point.

Point was Your - IMO plain stupid - proposal or question if a Y-7 AWACS took part. So who's the fool and either You admit that and immediately stop this trolling around or I promise You a Christmas vacation until 2018.

Simply admit Your stupid post and otherwise shut up.
Deino

 

[Beast]

Dear @Beast, I make it plain and simple:

You asked, what kind of AEW-PLANE from the carrier the PLN used and even suggested the Y-7-AEW ... what I replied as impossible ! And now You are again in wild-boar modus, calling me stupid and making chest-thumps as if I do not know the Z-18J ... that I never mentioned, that I am fully aware of but intentionally omitted since it was not the point.

Point was Your - IMO plain stupid - proposal or question if a Y-7 AWACS took part. So who's the fool and either You admit that and immediately stop this trolling around or I promise You a Christmas vacation until 2018.

Simply admit Your stupid post and otherwise shut up.
Deino

What a rude moderator you are? Why did you get so worked and resort to name calling? How many stupid did you used on your reply when I did not even resort to your standard.

If you could just reply, no ship borne AWACS but helo AWACS is used from carrier onboard. Wouldn't that solved all the problem? But you did not. You claimed a land based AWACS is needed to fly in and support a carrier. Does it sounds like a joke? In a military term. If you need fly an AWACS from land to support a carrier. You might as well stopped sending the carrier on sea. Its a waste of asset and its abilities.

@waz @Horus @Manticore

 

[Deino]

@Beast;

case closed !

 

[ChineseLuver]

Guys, there has been speculation on CD that the current J-15 are indeed using TVC engines and would like to know what are your thoughts?