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The point being made is that Bangladesh, Bhutan & Nepal have joined India to form a separate grouping because they don't want Pakistan to block it by way of SAARC. As for why BD is with India etc, you have it wrong. Whoever the leaders are, there is no interest in wanting hostility with India. Period.
These countries can surely make a separate group with India, that is something between them and India. Pakistan can and will do the same if necessary. That is all my point.
Your point about India getting gas through Pakistan etc is not backed by reality. Pakistan refused to join the other SAARC countries in their interest of greater connectivity, it wasn't India blocking Pakistan. How then would anyone look at getting gas from a country that wants to stop a few trucks?
Please explain the highlighted part. How so is not backed by reality? Was India not part of IPI? Is the gas and route both not cheaper than all the alternatives present? Heck even TAPI is a better alternative than anything India can do otherwise but just because it has a P in it, India does not want to be part of it. My point being certain interests supersece economic interests. Yes?
Pakistan did not refused to join other countries for greater connectivity, it was because India wanted access to Afghanistan, which means going through Pakistan and we have serious concerns over what may be shifted to Pakistan. We are already in a state of war and part of that war is because our enemies does not want Pakistan to be clam and peaceful solely focusing on its growth rather war and last we checked India does not belong in the list of countries that harbour goodwill for Pakistan. Gas pipe line is an altogether different story, Please dont compare apples with Oranges. There are other countries involved in the project as well. Why would Pakistan block it?
It has very little to do with Modi, Pakistan has been playing the spoiler long before Modi came on the scene. I'm not discounting Pakistan's interests but the other countries have decided to do their own thing with India. Give us a tinkle when the countries mentioned join in a grouping with you but excluding us.
Modi has only put his ambitions of subduing Pakistan in a fast pace. What was happening was already there but with guys like Modi and Ajit Doval, we have every right to be vary of Indian desires and ambitions. Rest every country is free to forge its interests where it wants SAARC or no SAARC.
That's the kind of cock & bull story that I was talking about. Mentioned only by Pakistanis on Pakistani channels and some " Christina Palmer".... Some sort of a secret that only they know. Like the child with the painting of the cow & the meadow...... No one else has ever heard of it, the notion that Kerry will be snubbing Modi days before the arrival of Obama is beyond ridiculous & it smacks of a desperate mind to even believe such stuff.
Everything we say is a Cock & Bull story for Indians, like i said its of no importance what you think, what matters is what others think and the way our foreign policy is going right now, i think we are doing pretty good at the moment.
SAARC may fail but SAARC minus 1 will not, even if it will get called something else. Indians are calling a spade a bloody shovel now, I certainly have no idea what you mean. What is it that you want in SAARC or in bilateral ties that you think India can accommodate but is not doing so?
There will be no SAARC just bilateral agreements, but yes you can call them whatever you want its between you and them. I am not saying anything otherwise but that Pakistan can forge similar agreements with these countries minus India if our interests dictate .
No one is saying you won't have any relations with these countries, no one is suggesting any sort of a relation rupture. The point is not that they will become your enemies or turn against you because they have interests with you, only that you will not be allowed to block what each of these countries consider to be important.
True however the same will also be true for India. Anything that we have with those counties, India will not be able to block it either. Win win i say.
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