Shameless Shahbag: What people really think of the Shahbag protest

[Maira La]

(Not written by me.)

I am the son of a freedom fighter and I swear by the name of my father that i am an atheist. I had voted for AL last election. I was often told by my BNP friends that Mujib alone was responsible for the murder of 40000 bengalis by Rakkhi Bahini, that AL leaders were hiding during the war and supported liberation war just for personal power. I didn’t care. Whatever his motive was, by supporting him we got Bangladesh. I wanted a secular Bangladesh.
But what AL did since 2009 made me realize that people were not so wrong after all. BDR, Shagar Runi, Felani, Railway scandal, Hallmark, destiny, stock loots, extrajudicial killings, the shaming of Yunus, murders and rapes by Chatra League with impunity, Padma bridge and nationalizing of Banks and the draining of national GDP made me realize that AL is the biggest danger for the country now. No r@zakar individually killed more than Mujib or Hasina did. Even then I support the trial of 1971 rajakars. But it should not make way for Awami League coming to power again because that will be more harmful for the country. But Shahbag is doing exactly that. They are trying to divert people from recent Awami crimes against the nation. Under the cover of justice for 1971, their main motive is to create public support for Awami League. Awami league has intentionally given a life sentence to Molla to create the protest for the hanging of Molla. This protest instead of protesting AL’s failure to prosecute properly, turned its angers towards the defendants, (motivated internally by AL through Imran who is an inside man of AL) and through nationwide yellow journalism.
I believe AL will not hang the rajakars till next election by giving excuse that the appeals and court procedures are taking time, and then they will say that give us vote again and we will hang the rajakars. People will have no choice but to vote Awami League backed by popular Shahbag. Its all election drama. Playing with the sentiments of 1971 is as horrible as all other crimes by AL. And even if the trial of Rajakars of 1971 was so important at this moment, why AL did not create a fair tribunal? Why not demand punishment of all rajakars? If rajakars can say that the tribunal of war criminals for 1971 is not fair, then that would be an insult to the shaheeds of 1971. This is also the reason that Jamaat is getting the chance to protest, and by openly firing at those protesters (without using other means before), a nationwide mass killing and civil war is on the way.
Why is Shahbag making a miserable country more miserable? I believe that AL thugs killed Rajib Haider to make the protest stronger, knowing that the blame will automatically fall on Jamaat since Rajib was an atheist. I think the same about the fire at book fair and the burning of hindu temples. Did they even think of bangladesh’s international reputation? What public can legally demand is actually the trial of a criminal. Don’t they know that public cannot demand a particular verdict from the court? Won’t the world think that Bangladesh is an illiterate nation run by illiterate thugs?
Government is financing the protest like anything. Shahbag is threatening and the government is taking action against all anti-government, even neutral media and intellectuals. They are calling true freedom fighters such as Bongobir Kader Siddiqui as rajakars just for the fault of not supporting the government. There are reports of extortions, abductions and marijuana abuse by shahbag mob. All they are actually doing is killing democracy and supporting a dangerous and fascist AL. Language movement of 1952 and Liberation war of 1971 brought good to the country. What good is shahbag bringing today except destruction? I support the spirit of protest of some youth in Shahbag, but they are actually harming the country this time with their thoughtless new patriotism. After finding out the true face of Shahbag many people are now against shahbag (which the media will not let you know), and the only people who are now in shahbag are 1) paid traitors of AL 2) importance seekers who want to believe that they will become nesw heros 3) emotional but dumb people who can’t understand what is good for the country.
The truly patriotic (and intelligent) people of Bangladesh will one day punish AL and Shahbag traitors (the leading ones) for their conspiracy against the country. They will also one by one punish all other criminals in AL, BNP and Jamaat. People want the true patritism of 1971 back, the politics of nations real success and development. They want new faces in politics. Long live Bangladesh!

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Interesting article.
Source

 

[kalu_miah]

EVERYONE PLEASE READ THIS (VERY IMPORTANT):
Interesting article.

Source please with hyperlink.

 

[Maira La]

Source please with hyperlink.

Sorry my bad. Done!

 

[Joe Shearer]

Good.

That settles the matter.

Now let's resolve Syria. There is still time before lunch.

 

[KS]

Nice try, Jamat.

 

[Banana]

Apostacy is Death in Islam. The Munafiq Writer would soon be eradicated by True Bangladesh Muslims.

 

[kalu_miah]

Sorry my bad. Done!

Its just a blog! Anyone could write anything in a blog.

 

[Maira La]

Its just a blog! Anyone could write anything in a blog.

True. It's a friend's blog. Just hellping him spread the word. =)

 

[LaBong]

A blogspot article becomes what people really think about shahbag when proper way of knowing what people think about shabag is just to watch them gathering there en masse.

 

[Spring Onion]

In Bangladesh, the flawed path to accountability
Instead of the death penalty, the protesters at Shahbag should be demanding fair trials for those accused of war crimes in 1971

A peaceful mass secular protest involving people from all walks of life, spearheaded by a tech savvy young generation, apparently independent from political parties, seeking accountability for war crimes committed in 1971.

This has been Shahbag, a square in the centre of Dhaka, Bangladesh, an (almost) non-stop protest since February 5.

The positive aspects are obvious to all those interested in a secular Bangladesh, who support accountability for the terrible atrocities committed during the nine-month-long war.

Hundreds of thousands are estimated to have died in the war, many allegedly with the assistance of pro-Pakistani militias whose members are said to have included Jamaat-e-Islami party members and leaders at the time.

Four decades later the Jamaat is the country’s fourth largest party and a key ally of the main Opposition party with many of its leaders and activists powerful social actors wielding significant influence in a country, much of which still remains overwhelmingly conservative.

The focus of the Shahbag protests, on accountability for 1971 war crimes and a secular politics, has understandably received significant positive media coverage both nationally and internationally.
However there are also reasons for concerns.



These start from the protesters’ central demand to hang Abdul Quader Mollah, a senior leader of the Jamaat-e-Islami recently sentenced to life imprisonment following conviction for five offences involving crimes against humanity, as well as nine other leaders of the party who are being prosecuted for similar offences.
This demand is however being made with little consideration to the fairness of the trials which are taking place in two locally established courts called the International Crimes Tribunals.

Three aspects of Mollah’s trial


Late last year, the Economist magazine published excerpts from the hacked Skype conversations and e-mails between the chairman of one of the two tribunals and an expatriate Bangladesh lawyer, who was working closely with the prosecution. The excerpts showed that this particular judge was in close contact with the prosecutors. Drafts of court orders were being passed between the judge, the prosecutors and this Bangladesh lawyer — including one relating to the proposed actual judgment on one of the accused.


The judge, Mohammed Nizamul Huq resigned. A new court was constituted, but applications by the defence to seek retrials were rejected — on the basis that since the conversations and e-mails were illegally obtained, the court would not take any cognisance of it.


Although Mollah was dealt with by a court that was not contaminated by these underhand dealings, those calling for his hanging fail to recognise three aspects of his trial.

First, while the court found the evidence sufficiently credible to convict Mollah for complicity in mass murder (involving a village of over 300 people) and rape, the evidence was nonetheless far from overwhelming, as anyone who has followed the trial and read the verdict will know. Excluding the testimony of two investigation officers, the court depended on only eight witnesses to convict him on five counts — each of which involve offences alleged to have taken place at different locations and dates.


In three of these counts, the only evidence was hearsay testimony, with most of it coming from witnesses who could not attribute their knowledge to anyone in particular. Another count, concerning rape and murder, was based wholly on the testimony of a woman who was 13 years old at the time, hiding under a bed, where there was no additional corroborating evidence.

TThe second issue concerns the decision of the tribunal to only allow the defence to call six witnesses (when there was no limitation on the prosecution) simply on the basis that it thought this was a sufficient number. This would seem to be a significant restriction on the rights of the accused to present their case.
The third issue is of the extent of Mollah’s participation in the crimes, an important determinant of sentencing. While there is some lack of clarity in the tribunal’s exact findings, it appears that in none of the five counts was Mollah convicted of personally undertaking or ordering the acts of murder or rape. He was found guilty of “complicity” in or “abetting” an offence, “accompany[ing] the gang to the crime site having rifle in hand” or facilitating mass murder and rape by being “present” at the scene.


While these findings are undoubtedly extremely serious, it is notable that they are less serious than the findings by the same court a couple of weeks earlier in the (in absentia trial) of Abul Kalam Azad, sentenced to hanging for “physically participat[ing]” in the offence of genocide and other offences.

These three factors, along with the wider concerns about the fairness of the tribunal process, should at the very least raise serious questions about the legitimacy of demanding a death penalty for Mollah.


Case for no release


Reasons for not supporting the hanging of Delawar Hossain Sayedee, whose death penalty sentence on Thursday was greeted to huge cheers at Shahbag (and the unleashing of unacceptable violence by the Jamaat) are even more acute.

The demands coming from Shahbag show little interest in the subtleties of due process or matters of evidence. The protesters seem convinced that all the men currently before the tribunal are guilty, that any evidential weaknesses evidence are simply due to the long 40 years they have waited for justice, and that if the men do not get the death penalty, they will be released by a future sympathetic government.
It is certainly true that a 40-year-interval makes obtaining credible evidence of guilt that much more difficult. I know that since I made War Crimes Files, the 1995 Channel Four documentary about three men alleged to have committed 1971 war crimes, a number of important eyewitnesses in the film have died. However, at the end of the day, and unfair though it may appear, rule of law and due process means that only evidence shown to be probative and presented in court can be considered.



And while there is a risk that conviction for life may, due to political accommodations, result in future inappropriate release from prison, this should not be a justification for putting someone to death. Instead it should result in placing pressure on all political parties and any future government not to release those convicted of these offences. The men currently before the tribunal may well be guilty of the offences for which they have been charged. Jamaat-e-Islami did collaborate with the Pakistan military and atrocities were committed in which some its leaders are likely to have been involved. But a fair process of justice is crucial to determining whether this is the case — and certainly before putting men to death. This is all the more important now that 40 years have passed.
There is much in the Shahbag protests to support. But demands for hanging these men following a rather blemished tribunal process would well be a serious blot on these wider aspirations.
(David Bergman,a journalist with The New Age newspaper in Dhaka


The Hindu : Opinion / Op-Ed : In Bangladesh, the flawed path to accountability

 

[LaBong]

Wow Jana quoting orange (or was it saffron ) hinduvta (and all that jazz) media, what has this world come to?

 

[EagleEyes]

Wow Jana quoting orange (or was it saffron ) hinduvta (and all that jazz) media, what has this world come to?

Its saffron or yellow at times. So i guess you pick and choose.

 

[Moander]

(Not written by me.)

I am the son of a freedom fighter and I swear by the name of my father that i am an atheist. I had voted for AL last election. I was often told by my BNP friends that Mujib alone was responsible for the murder of 40000 bengalis by Rakkhi Bahini, that AL leaders were hiding during the war and supported liberation war just for personal power. I didn’t care. Whatever his motive was, by supporting him we got Bangladesh. I wanted a secular Bangladesh.
But what AL did since 2009 made me realize that people were not so wrong after all. BDR, Shagar Runi, Felani, Railway scandal, Hallmark, destiny, stock loots, extrajudicial killings, the shaming of Yunus, murders and rapes by Chatra League with impunity, Padma bridge and nationalizing of Banks and the draining of national GDP made me realize that AL is the biggest danger for the country now. No r@zakar individually killed more than Mujib or Hasina did. Even then I support the trial of 1971 rajakars. But it should not make way for Awami League coming to power again because that will be more harmful for the country. But Shahbag is doing exactly that. They are trying to divert people from recent Awami crimes against the nation. Under the cover of justice for 1971, their main motive is to create public support for Awami League. Awami league has intentionally given a life sentence to Molla to create the protest for the hanging of Molla. This protest instead of protesting AL’s failure to prosecute properly, turned its angers towards the defendants, (motivated internally by AL through Imran who is an inside man of AL) and through nationwide yellow journalism.
I believe AL will not hang the rajakars till next election by giving excuse that the appeals and court procedures are taking time, and then they will say that give us vote again and we will hang the rajakars. People will have no choice but to vote Awami League backed by popular Shahbag. Its all election drama. Playing with the sentiments of 1971 is as horrible as all other crimes by AL. And even if the trial of Rajakars of 1971 was so important at this moment, why AL did not create a fair tribunal? Why not demand punishment of all rajakars? If rajakars can say that the tribunal of war criminals for 1971 is not fair, then that would be an insult to the shaheeds of 1971. This is also the reason that Jamaat is getting the chance to protest, and by openly firing at those protesters (without using other means before), a nationwide mass killing and civil war is on the way.
Why is Shahbag making a miserable country more miserable? I believe that AL thugs killed Rajib Haider to make the protest stronger, knowing that the blame will automatically fall on Jamaat since Rajib was an atheist. I think the same about the fire at book fair and the burning of hindu temples. Did they even think of bangladesh’s international reputation? What public can legally demand is actually the trial of a criminal. Don’t they know that public cannot demand a particular verdict from the court? Won’t the world think that Bangladesh is an illiterate nation run by illiterate thugs?
Government is financing the protest like anything. Shahbag is threatening and the government is taking action against all anti-government, even neutral media and intellectuals. They are calling true freedom fighters such as Bongobir Kader Siddiqui as rajakars just for the fault of not supporting the government. There are reports of extortions, abductions and marijuana abuse by shahbag mob. All they are actually doing is killing democracy and supporting a dangerous and fascist AL. Language movement of 1952 and Liberation war of 1971 brought good to the country. What good is shahbag bringing today except destruction? I support the spirit of protest of some youth in Shahbag, but they are actually harming the country this time with their thoughtless new patriotism. After finding out the true face of Shahbag many people are now against shahbag (which the media will not let you know), and the only people who are now in shahbag are 1) paid traitors of AL 2) importance seekers who want to believe that they will become nesw heros 3) emotional but dumb people who can’t understand what is good for the country.
The truly patriotic (and intelligent) people of Bangladesh will one day punish AL and Shahbag traitors (the leading ones) for their conspiracy against the country. They will also one by one punish all other criminals in AL, BNP and Jamaat. People want the true patritism of 1971 back, the politics of nations real success and development. They want new faces in politics. Long live Bangladesh!

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Interesting article.
Source

So atheist are tolerable as long as they don't support Awami ?