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Shambaugh Fails to Pick Up the Pieces of his Broken Argument on China
October 09, 2016, People's Daily
By Curtis Stone

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We are witnessing the revival of the Chinese nation, not the death throes of China’s political system. All too often, this message is lost in translation. In 2015, U.S. Professor David Shambaugh wrote an article for The Wall Street Journal titled “The Coming Chinese Crackup.” In the article, Shambaugh makes various claims in support of the so-called “China collapse thesis.” For example, he said China’s political system is badly broken; Xi Jinping’s efforts to root out corruption are tearing the Party apart and setting the country back; and the stability of Communist rule is a façade.

In the fall 2016 edition of The Washington Quarterly, Shambaugh seems to want to distance himself from the contentious article. Rather than address his previous conclusion that we are witnessing the final phase of Chinese communism, however, he takes aim at The Wall Street Journal for mudding the waters: “I do not subscribe to the ‘China collapse thesis,’ as falsely indicated by the title of my Wall Street Journal article,” he says. The title is not the problem. The problem is the broken argument that China’s system is doomed to fail, regardless of how it is worded or dressed up. Briefly touching on the root problem and then trying to move forward with the same basic logic does not fix the former or save the current.

At the core there is no difference between the two articles. Both sound the same alarm: China’s regime is destined to wither away unless Western-style political reform is carried out. Change course, or else. For Shambaugh, the key issue is the current course of the regime. His pessimistic conclusion rests on the argument that political reform should match economic reform, thus the focus on the relationship between politics and economics. If the economic system is liberal, the political system should be too. That is the only way China can move forward economically or socially, at least according to Shambaugh.

The key issue for China at this stage of development is not so much the relationship between politics and economics, but shifting the old economy to the innovation economy. The political liberalization that Shambaugh calls for will only weaken China’s governance capability and create uncertainty about China’s future. Xi has made technological innovation the pivot of development, and an innovation-driven economy is seen by China’s leaders as the country’s path forward. But the national strategy of innovation requires massive structural transformation, and this requires top-level steering. In a paper presented at the China Development Forum 2016, U.S. Professor Joseph Stiglitz rightly points out that structural transformation does not happen on its own. The state has a pivotal role to play in shifting the economy.

The China story is atypical in world history, and its policies should be tailored to China’s unique history and situation. And while China’s system is imperfect, it is not crumbling. In both articles, Shambaugh's pessimistic conclusion is not only unconvincing but unscientific, and such biased conclusions do nothing but fuel speculation about the strength and stability of China’s political system. All we know for sure is that China’s system works for China. Despite its shortcomings, China’s system has lifted more than 800 million people out of poverty and the country is now a leading actor on the world stage. More amazing, China did all this without resorting to conquest, colonization, or territorial expansion. Strong state management has lifted China up, and it will play a central role in creating a more balanced and sophisticated economy. Simply put, China is on the correct path.

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It's obvious Mr Shambaugh does not understand how things work inside China (not many outsiders do actually). Western style governance is not a universal magic potion which every country must adopt in order to be praised as a working system. If cracking down on corruption is a failed policy and endangering the existence of the Party one must ask whether he is really genuine to his own opinion. Each country has its own tailored system as it should be, by pressing others to blindly follow Western Democracy is mere arrogance of its own supremacy. China does not need to follow Western crap and is doing just fine. Chinese leaders know what kind of policies are necessary so they can steer the country into the right path. His opinion is no more sincere than the Opium issue where the British had no conscience. CPC will continue its path of governance and development with no hard landing/crashing/tumbling. It is doing what is necessary to reclaim the number 1 spot again, the world's biggest economy which has been held by China since ancient times to the height of the Qing Dynasty. China is racing in HSR mode towards that goal and it shall undoubtedly succeed.
 
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I believe it is best to laugh about the bias against China in Western MSM rather than to be disgusted about it. The Anglo-Zionist Empire (credit to The Saker for coining the term) is tripping over their arrogance and will continue to do so as the neocon lunatics keep drinking the Kool-Aid since they lose influence left, right and centre due to Russia's and China's utmost efforts to frustrate their calculated plans. @TaiShang
 
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Shambaugh Fails to Pick Up the Pieces of his Broken Argument on China
October 09, 2016, People's Daily
By Curtis Stone
I believe it is best to laugh about the bias against China in Western MSM


Yes indeed I am baffled by these western MSM, very entertaining to read, it's even more amusing to read some ignorant readers' response. These days, together with proxies like BIS, IMF, they massively fire at "credit bubble" or more precisely say "corporate debt", you guys see that? Just hilarious. Let's tell you why these MSN do this.

Before we start, let's warm up and look at the big picture. What are the key macroscopic "debt" positions that concern everyone? Here they are:
  1. Net International Investment Position of a Nation
  2. National Debt of a Government
  3. Domestic Credit to Private Sector
OK now, let's begin. Starting with (1). An absolutely forbidden topic in MSM. Why? Let's not tell people this new hard reality "once largest creditor nation since 1910's, held that title for 70 years till 1980's, but now sink to the bottom and become the largest debtor nation on this planet". While on the exact opposite side, Greater China has risen to become largest creditor nation, how to bash? PASS.
http://bea.gov/newsreleases/international/intinv/intinvnewsrelease.htm

Then (2). Come on, I guess even a 6th grader kid knows which government on earth carries the largest national debt in human history, how to bash China? PASS.

Last hope (3), China 155.5% vs US 190.4%, quite normal commercial banking businesses, how to bash? Moreover, Chinese are famous for savings, the "normal" domestic credit level is supported by an "abnormally high" savings rate. How high? World's 2nd highest on par with Singapore, only behind Qatar. PASS!
http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/FS.AST.PRVT.GD.ZS?year_high_desc=true
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2260rank.html


Last hope gone, so sad, let's give up bashing.

But wait a sec, yes (3) overall is normal, if we go deeper by sector, household is very low, can't bash. PASS.
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2260rank.html

So means corporate must be high? BINGO! Let's blow this out of proportion, full force bashing begins, "China's deep into corporate debt", "China's credit bubble", "China collapse".
 
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I believe it is best to laugh about the bias against China in Western MSM rather than to be disgusted about it. The Anglo-Zionist Empire (credit to The Saker for coining the term) is tripping over their arrogance and will continue to do so as the neocon lunatics keep drinking the Kool-Aid since they lose influence left, right and centre due to Russia's and China's utmost efforts to frustrate their calculated plans. @TaiShang

Well stated, my friend. The special case about Shambaugh has been that he was known as a China scholar -- scholar in the true sense of the word, for many years to come. He was not our standard in-China or out-China blogger-turned "China expert." It is incredible how he blew away all the scholastic credibility in a single stroke of brush with that low-quality Op-Ed on the WSJ.

As nearly as 2014, I was reading his articles as assigned texts in my PhD courses and he dropped in my separtment (in Taiwan) couple of times and we had chance to interact with him. Then came the very pedestrian article in which he boasted like a low-caliber Western exceptionalist. Huntington was an exceptionalist, as well, but at least he had a theoretical framework based on Western cultural supremacy. Shambaugh even appeared to be devoid of a sound theoretical or conceptual framework. He simply spewed out the usual "if you do not mimic our historical experience, you are doomed to fail."

Yes indeed I am baffled by these western MSM, very entertaining to read, it's even more amusing to read some ignorant readers' response. These days, together with proxies like BIS, IMF, they massively fire at "credit bubble" or more precisely say "corporate debt", you guys see that? Just hilarious. Let's look at the big picture, what are the key macroscopic "debt" positions that concern everyone? Here they are:
  1. Net International Investment Position of a Nation
  2. National Debt of a Government
  3. Domestic Credit to Private Sector
OK, let's begin, starting with (1). An absolutely forbidden topic, let's not tell people this new hard reality "once largest creditor nation since 1910's, held that title for 70 years till 1980's, but now sink to the bottom and become the largest debtor nation on this planet". While on the exact opposite side, Greater China has risen to become largest creditor nation, how to bash? PASS.
http://bea.gov/newsreleases/international/intinv/intinvnewsrelease.htm

Then (2). Come on, everyone knows which government on earth carries the largest national debt in human history, how to bash China? PASS.

Last hope (3), China 155.5% vs US 190.4%, quite normal commercial banking businesses, how to bash? Moreover, Chinese are famous for savings, the "normal" domestic credit level is supported by an "abnormally high" savings rate. How high? World's 2nd highest on par with Singapore, only behind Qatar. PASS!
http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/FS.AST.PRVT.GD.ZS?year_high_desc=true
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2260rank.html


Last hope gone, so sad, let's give up bashing.

But wait a sec, yes (3) overall is normal, if we go deeper by sector, household is very low
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2260rank.html

So means corporate must be high? BINGO! Let's blow this out of proportion, full force bashing begins, "China's deep into corporate debt", "China's credit bubble", "China collapse".​

Factually stated sound argument, indeed. These counter (factual) arguments need to be more powerfully made at every possible credible venue of idea dissemination. China has been pretty much immune to Western lecturing, for sure, and it is a more solid victory to prove these people/groups wrong through solid action and result. Nonetheless, out of respect for truth, it must be repeated.
 
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Factually stated sound argument, indeed. These counter (factual) arguments need to be more powerfully made at every possible credible venue of idea dissemination. China has been pretty much immune to Western lecturing, for sure, and it is a more solid victory to prove these people/groups wrong through solid action and result. Nonetheless, out of respect for truth, it must be repeated.


What these MSM would never tell you is this: US is the largest debtor nation, Greater China is the largest creditor nation, and both are speeding up, however in exactly opposite direction.

And of course they won't advertise about national debts (unfunded liabilities is a taboo), not even total domestic credit, or household debt, because they know how US and China each performs in these counts. All macroscopic indicators read, numbers don't lie.

So all of a sudden, BIS heavily promote "Credit-To-GDP Gap", or "Countercyclical Capital Buffer" in September? A rarely heard concept yet debated by academics? With BIS, IMF selling this, we see New York Times, Bloomberg, Washington Post, CNBC, Huffington, Guardian, ... all on orgasm till now.

Motive? Support dollar? If that's the case, I can understand the collective silence of Chinese state-owned media. That's right, China is supportive of dollar, at least for the time being. A high dollar is necessary while China is still in the process of:
  1. Maintain strong exports, upgrade home industry to "Made in China 2025"
  2. Expanding use of RMB in trade and investment. Currency swaps, off shore RMB currency markets.
  3. Shifting away from forex reserves (and shift to custodian/proxy accounts e.g. Euroclear, Caribbean)
  4. Pivot to SWF that drastically expand ODI (greenfield, M&A). China is already the 1st largest SWF nation, keep loading. M&A, applies to advanced industrialized economies e.g. East Asia, Germany. Greenfield, buildup future consumption markets in OBOR, the Global South.
  5. Onshore and offshore non-financial commodity reserves. Oil, metals.
  6. Long term energy deal e.g. Sino-Russia energy pact, Central Asia (OBOR), Venezuela, Angola, Sudan. Deepen tie with KSA e.g. engage in Aramco IPO.
 
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What these MSM would never tell you is this: US is the largest debtor nation, Greater China is the largest creditor nation, and both are speeding up, however in exactly opposite direction.

And of course they won't advertise about national debts (unfunded liabilities is a taboo), not even total domestic credit, or household debt, because they know how US and China each performs in these counts. All key indicators read, numbers don't lie.

So all of a sudden, BIS heavily promote "Credit-To-GDP Gap", or "Countercyclical Capital Buffer" in September? A rarely heard concept yet debated by academics? With BIS, IMF selling this, we see New York Times, Bloomberg, Washington Post, CNBC, Huffington, Guardian, ... all on orgasm till now.

Motive? Support dollar? If that's the case, I can understand the absolute silence of Chinese state-owned media.
Jewish corporates are always sucking up the blood of ordinary americans, but they use their corporate media to let the ordinary feel super good.
 
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What these MSM would never tell you is this: US is the largest debtor nation, Greater China is the largest creditor nation, and both are speeding up, however in exactly opposite direction.

And of course they won't advertise about national debts (unfunded liabilities is a taboo), not even total domestic credit, or household debt, because they know how US and China each performs in these counts. All macroscopic indicators read, numbers don't lie.

So all of a sudden, BIS heavily promote "Credit-To-GDP Gap", or "Countercyclical Capital Buffer" in September? A rarely heard concept yet debated by academics? With BIS, IMF selling this, we see New York Times, Bloomberg, Washington Post, CNBC, Huffington, Guardian, ... all on orgasm till now.

Motive? Support dollar? If that's the case, I can understand the collective silence of Chinese state-owned media. That's right, China is supportive of dollar, at least for the time being. A high dollar is necessary while China is still in the process of:
  1. Maintain exports, upgrade home industry to "Made in China 2025"
  2. Expanding use of RMB in trade and investment. Currency swaps, off shore RMB currency markets.
  3. Shifting away from forex reserves, pivot to SWF, drastically expand ODI (greenfield, M&A)
  4. Onshore and offshore non-financial commodity reserves. Oil, metals.
  5. Long term energy deal e.g. Sino-Russia energy pact, Central Asia (OBOR), Venezuela, Angola, Sudan.
  6. Build future consumption markets in OBOR, the Global South.

Ah my brother,

You are too logical and make too much sense...

Should we forget...China Bashing is an industry on its own...

So these people have their bread and butter related to wishing/hoping/dreaming/promoting China collapse fantasies...

Nothing we shall say, show or do will change this until the inevitable hits the ground... we need a couple of decades of peace and development...

In some quarters in Asia there are certain peoples who just keep comparing themselves to China and how they are gonna beat China...or some just are dedicating their lives to belittle everything China and Chinese have achieved or are achieving... Sun Wukong will have his 500 years of humility...in due time....

It is their narrative vs. ours...OBOR.

@TaiShang our material dialectics can not be shaped by the onslaught of negativity of others... through diligence and consistency we move forward in the advancement of Human Condition. The new paradigm has not only conceptual underpinning but material framework behind it.
 
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Jewish corporates are always sucking up the blood of ordinary americans, but they use their corporate media to let the ordinary feel super good.
i like these brilliant Jewish people. fucking Americans up making them poorer each day and can still BS them into thinking they are still supepower. work of a genius no doubt
 
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Ah my brother,

You are too logical and make too much sense...

Should we forget...China Bashing is an industry on its own...

So these people have their bread and butter related to wishing/hoping/dreaming/promoting China collapse fantasies...

Nothing we shall say, show or do will change this until the inevitable hits the ground... we need a couple of decades of peace and development...

In some quarters in Asia there are certain peoples who just keep comparing themselves to China and how they are gonna beat China...or some just are dedicating their lives to belittle everything China and Chinese have achieved or are achieving... Sun Wukong will have his 500 years of humility...in due time....

It is their narrative vs. ours...OBOR.

@TaiShang our material dialectics can not be shaped by the onslaught of negativity of others... through diligence and consistency we move forward in the advancement of Human Condition. The new paradigm has not only conceptual underpinning but material framework behind it.


Very poetic!

I am not sophisticated like you or @TaiShang, it's just common sense to know how hilarious is this recent wave of China bashing by blowing one sector (corporate) of domestic credit market out of proportion, hyping another base-less China collapse story, while the BIS, IMF, NYT, Bloomberg, Washington Post are all silent on sky-rocketing US national debt, external liabilities.

But for how long can they be silent?

You may have seen the physics experiment in school where the students build a small pyramid of sand. Then they add one grain at a time. Eventually, one additional grain of sand collapses the pyramid.

From the beginning of US to the year 2000, that’s more than 200 years, the total accumulated Federal debt was $5.7 trillion. The debt has now grown to an amazing $19.5 trillion, a 242% increase in 16 years.

Former budget director under President Reagan, David Stockman, wrote these:

The puppet politicians in Washington D.C. have only done what their “invisible government” puppeteers have instructed them to do. They don’t answer to the voters or their local constituents. They answer to Wall Street bankers, the military industrial complex, mega-corporation CEOs, and shadowy billionaire oligarchs who fund their corrupt existence.

These feckless politician hacks could never have added $13.8 trillion to the national debt in the last sixteen years and run the country’s unfunded welfare liabilities to $200 trillion without the Wall Street controlled privately owned Federal Reserve manning the printing presses and manipulating interest rates to enrich their “invisible government” benefactors.

They have inflated away 97% of the dollar’s purchasing power since their shadowy creation in 1913. They are single biggest reason real wages have not advanced since 1971. They are the reason the top 0.1% now have the highest percentage of the national wealth since 1929.

Distribution-of-wealth-in-the-US-since-1917.jpg


Luckily, the Fed and Wall Street concocted a scheme whereby Wall Street used the free money provided by the Fed to buy up millions of foreclosed homes at fire sale prices and rent them back to the poor schlubs who had been recently evicted by the very same Wall Street banks. The engineered shortage of home inventory led to soaring rent costs for everyone. This is called winning by the establishment.

US-Homeownership-rate.jpg


Reducing interest rates to 0% again benefited those with the most debt: Wall Street banks, mega-corporations, and the U.S. government. It destroyed the finances of senior citizens living off their savings, penalized people for saving, and incentivized heavily indebted consumers to borrow more.
Median-rent-infaltion.jpg


How did allowing Wall Street banks to borrow at 0% so they could charge consumers 15% on credit card balances and 6% on auto loans benefit consumers? Did the government enslaving young people in $1.3 trillion of student loan debt with only low paying service jobs available at graduation, benefit anyone other than for profit diploma mills?

http://davidstockmanscontracorner.com/more-warnings-history-is-on-a-speed-dial/

Figure out for yourself.
 
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