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[帅的一匹]

Yes, the agreement is China obtain the full property right of Su-27 basic frame and can modify to whatever we want and produce unlimited number but we are not allow to export it.

This suit Chinese cos in the first place becos we just want the flanker to replace many obsolete jet and satisfy domestic requirement. They are never to make money in the first place. Plus, flanker is an highly maintenance twin engine heavy jet. Not many countries can afford it. Many countries bought it struggle to keep it combat active except China. Cos money is not a problem for us. Even China want to export, I doubt others will buy cos many Chinese friendly countries hardly has enough cash. They are looking for affordable combat planes.

damn, we have to respect the agreement.

 

[Beast]

damn, we have to respect the agreement.

In fact, the initial agreement for tot of Su-27Sk is very shabby. Chinese thought they bought the right of su-27sk airframe but Russian claim Chinese has right to build only 200 J-11 series fighter plane and they never sold the frame right to China. But you know Ruskie can never be true to an agreement. They can signed one thing but say it another as proven on IL-76 deal and INS Vikramadity.

But it's good that in the end, we got what we want.

 

[帅的一匹]

In fact, the initial agreement for tot of Su-27Sk is very shabby. Chinese thought they bought the right of su-27sk airframe but Russian claim Chinese has right to build only 200 J-11 series fighter plane and they never sold the frame right to China. But you know Ruskie can never be true to an agreement. They can signed one thing but say it another as proven on IL-76 deal and INS Vikramadity.

But it's good that in the end, we got what we want.

anyway, su27 is a legend fighter.

 

[CriticalThought]

F-16 blk70/72 advances over J-10
1-more advance AESA (Northrop Grumman’s advanced APG-83 AESA
2-F-16 has The Automatic Ground Collision Avoidance System (Auto GCAS) While J-10 nothing
3-Advance battle awarness of F-16 over J-10
Enhanced Battlespace Awareness
Another key feature of the F-16 Block 70 configuration is the new Center Pedestal Display (CPD), which provides critical tactical imagery to pilots on a high-resolution 6”x 8” screen. The high-resolution display allows pilots to take full advantage of AESA and targeting pod data. The new CPD enables color moving maps, larger and easier to manage air-to-air Situation Displays, zoom functionality with the ability to switch information among displays, and a digital display of Flight Instrument Data. The CPD is also compatible with the Night Vision Imaging System.
4-180 plus different configuration of weapons while J-10 has nothing..

Just like the F-16 benefits from advanced tech on Raptor and Lightening, J-10 benefits from advances in J-20. With proper configuration, both fighters will be toe to toe.

 

[JohnWick]

Typical US/Western worshipping fan boy. The current blk 52 has no AESA radar and no IRST which J-10C has.

As for flanker, China J-11b are far superior upgraded compare to Su-27SK. Using 3D printing to produced frame structure result in weight reduction but without compromise of frame integrity. This translate to lighter plane but stronger airframe thus increase thrust to weight ratio. J-11B is Chinese first 100% domestic made 4th gen fighter/attack role that included Chinese WS-10 engines which has higher lifespan compare to Russian AL-31F. Unlike Su-27SK , which has no precision ground attack capabilities. The J-11b also deploy Chinese radar which is far more advanced than N001 radar.

https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/china/j-11-variants.htm

I will say only one thing,
US made F-22 nearly 30 years ago and still no fighter is able to compare to it.
Your J-20 and J-31 are still nothing in the front of 30 years(half a century) old US tech.So buzz off

one simple question, is Blk70 available for PAF?

Mentally challenged inbred, I was only comparing.Try to understand it.

Typical US/Western worshipping fan boy. The current blk 52 has no AESA radar and no IRST which J-10C has.

Mental psychopath,I was compairing blk70/72 which has an AESA superior than that of F-22.

 

[Beast]

I will say only one thing,
US made F-22 nearly 30 years ago and still no fighter is able to compare to it.
Your J-20 and J-31 are still nothing in the front of 30 years(half a century) old US tech.So buzz off

Lol... They are not short of brainwashed Pakistanis fools like you who always believe the greener side is always from US.

Go ahead and keep kissing uncle Sam toe.

The latter will always be advantage. There is a reason why Pakistan keep trample by US with fools like you keep worshipping them.

 

[JohnWick]

Lol... They are not short of brainwashed Pakistanis fools like you who always believe the greener side is always from US.

Go ahead and keep kissing uncle Sam toe.

The latter will always be advantage. There is a reason why Pakistan keep trample by US with fools like you keep worshipping them.

Hahahaha...Don't cry like a baby when you unable to make make a sensible argument
Chinese psychopath like you who just do day Robbery and stole peoples tech.Make illegal cheap copies of Russian equipment.
But not capable to meet 30 years old US tech.

 

[Ultima Thule]

I will say only one thing,
US made F-22 nearly 30 years ago and still no fighter is able to compare to it.
Your J-20 and J-31 are still nothing in the front of 30 years(half a century) old US tech.So buzz off

And J-20 is lot newer than F-22 and have a latest tech, whereas F-22 was designed in late 90s and its avionics+radar is also being develop/built in 90s @JohnWick

 

[JohnWick]

And J-20 is lot newer than F-22 and have a latest tech, whereas F-22 was designed in late 90s and its avionics+radar is also being develop/built in 90s @JohnWick

So What's the new tech in J-20 which F-22 lacks?
But there are many which J-20 lacks.
Be a neutral person!

 

[Beast]

Hahahaha...Don't cry like a baby when you unable to make make a sensible argument
Chinese psychopath l like you who just do day Robbery and stole peoples tech.Make illegal cheap copies of Russian equipment.
But not capable to meet 30 years old US tech.

You are being selective and brainwashed by American. It sad Pakistan can never be strong with parasite like you. I pity Pakistan.

Does this looks like any copy or 30 years old tech of Russia or American? You are living in denial.

 

[Ultima Thule]

So What's the new tech in J-20 which F-22 lacks?
But there are many which J-20 lacks.
Be a neutral person!

prime example avionics+radars, and please tell me what J-20 haven't, @JohnWick

Hahahaha...Don't cry like a baby when you unable to make make a sensible argument
Chinese psychopath like you who just do day Robbery and stole peoples tech.Make illegal cheap copies of Russian equipment.
But not capable to meet 30 years old US tech.

You're troll, they are out of arena long before @JohnWick post reported for trolling @JohnWick

 

[Windjammer]

So What's the new tech in J-20 which F-22 lacks?
But there are many which J-20 lacks.
Be a neutral person!

How China’s New Stealth Fighter Could Soon Surpass the US F-22 Raptor

https://thediplomat.com/2018/03/how...ighter-could-soon-surpass-the-us-f-22-raptor/

 

[JohnWick]

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Does this looks like any copy or 30 years old tech of Russia or American? You are living in denial.

You are unable to understand My simple English in which I said that unable to meet 30 years old tech not copy of them.Feeling so sorry about you.You can come here in Pakistan there is free Check up for lunatics

As far As copies of tech
There are millions Cheap copy of Iphones Samsung .LCDs LEDs of Sony Samsung and LG by China.

How China’s New Stealth Fighter Could Soon Surpass the US F-22 Raptor

https://thediplomat.com/2018/03/how...ighter-could-soon-surpass-the-us-f-22-raptor/

Yeah Thank that's what I talking they Still unable to meet the specification of F-22 which was made by US 30 years(half a century)ago @pakistanipower

 

[Ultima Thule]

Yeah Thank that's what I talking they Still unable to meet the specification of F-22 which was made by US 30 years(half a century)ago @pakistanipower

Only weak point on J-20 is Engine and that's all you lunatics friend @JohnWick ,Avionics+radar is latest, design is more maneuverable/agile even without TVC @JohnWick

You are unable to understand My simple English in which I said that unable to meet 30 years old tech not copy of them.Feeling so sorry about you.You can come here in Pakistan there is free Check up for lunatics

As far As copy of tech
There are millions Cheap copy of Iphones Samsung .LCDs LEDs of Sony Samsung and LG.

again post reported with trolling and without a base @JohnWick

 

[JohnWick]

Only weak point on J-20 is Engine and that's all you lunatics friend @JohnWick ,Avionics+radar is latest, design is more maneuverable/agile even without TVC @JohnWick

again post reported with trolling and without a base @JohnWick

F-22 is developed by NASA as X-22.
Hope you understand what NASA is capable to do.They reached moon in 1969.No other country Still not capable to do this.
It is the most maneuverable plane in the whole world.Its whole Body acts like a sensor.and why are you acting like a Chinese slave and reporting me?
Don't act like Chinese Slave.