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[Yasser76]

I would disregard your last paragraph since I'm least interested in your experiences with uncles.

As for my sweeping statement. Kaiser Tufail said it. It is more than enough.

You can fix your own interpretation here and there to save yourself but it doesnt change the fact, that F-16s close supervision does translate into risk mitigation. And no where did I say that F-16s are not employed to their full potential. Combat deployment and four ship take off's for showboarding are different things. The latter enhances the risks with no return. For example, frequent barrel rolls or canopy rolls by younger pilots are frowned upon on F-16s. As they contribute negatively towards airframe life. I will not be expanding on this further.

Now lets not drag this any longer. I made my point and Kaiser Tufail's statement is more than an 'evidence' for you. Learn to accept and move on.

I will quote your statement back at you, as I think you may have a convenient memory lapse on this issue, it is not my "interpretation" but simply the English language.

"PAF is very risk averse when it comes to F-16s."

You claimed I do not understand the "complexity" of the issue so I am waiting to be enlightened with regards to this by someone as very knowledgeable as yourself.

Again, maybe my English is not very good or I failed to grasp a certain "complexity" again, but after watching the video can you point to me the exact part where Tufail supports your "risk averse" theory?

I am going to wait for your evidence, or simply watch a case of furious back peddling on a public forum, either way, I have a cup of tea and am working from home, so it should be fun....

 

[airomerix]

I will quote your statement back at you, as I think you may have a convenient memory lapse on this issue, it is not my "interpretation" but simply the English language.

"PAF is very risk averse when it comes to F-16s."

You claimed I do not understand the "complexity" of the issue so I am waiting to be enlightened with regards to this by someone as very knowledgeable as yourself.

Again, maybe my English is not very good or I failed to grasp a certain "complexity" again, but after watching the video can you point to me the exact part where Tufail supports your "risk averse" theory?

I am going to wait for your evidence, or simply watch a case of furious back peddling on a public forum, either way, I have a cup of tea and am working from home, so it should be fun....

Since you are unable to understand/see/admit the link between being risk averse and over supervision, hence I have bad news for you. You do not/cannot understand the complexity of this subject. I wont be responding to you again. We're going in circles. Happy sipping.

 

[Yasser76]

Since you are unable to understand/see/admit the link between being risk averse and over supervision, hence I have bad news for you. You do not/cannot understand the complexity of this subject. I wont be responding to you again. We're going in circles. Happy sipping.

So, no evidence and running away, as only you can understand the "complexity". Here endeth the lesson. Maybe next time you will think before making sweeping statements about the operational doctrine of the air force that you cannot back up.

Till next time....

 

[PanzerKiel]

@Windjammer

Looks like PAF was doing it with F-16s a long ago.

The images are taken from video footage of classic PAF song "Hawai fauj k auqab".

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i hope you are confusing the canal below with a runway.....

 

[AMRAAM]

i hope you are confusing the canal below with a runway.....

Exactly. Because the resolution of the video was low so I confused it with a runway at some hilly/snowy area. @Hodor pointed that out above.

 

[GriffinsRule]

Another great interview, this time from a Rafale pilot, for those interested.

Lots of lessons and insights and something we already know but are reinforced by the pilot

 

[Raider 21]

Another great interview, this time from a Rafale pilot, for those interested.

Lots of lessons and insights and something we already know but are reinforced by the pilot

An excellent professional. I listened to his podcasts, they're in French but very informative. And his time on the RAFALE as a naval aviator put him ahead more operationally than the air force counterparts.

 

[Blacklight]

Well I like to be serious to about it.

Cheers !!!

Msg recvd.

Thanks!

 

[airomerix]

Msg recvd.

Thanks!

Emailed you earlier. Check inbox please.