SHAHBAGH SQUARE-A NEW RISE

[kobiraaz]

Please understand, my friend did not participate in any of activities there.

He simply went there to check it out to see what's up. That's why I said that these gatherings and slogans don't prove anything. Any dude can simply go in. Not all of them there are shouting for his execution and banning Jamaat.



Are you saying Jamaat supporters will vote for AL as an option?

Another important facet to this matter: Evidence.

I've heard people comparing this to the Nazi trials. What they do not understand is that the Nazis were highly organized and efficient in every aspect of their operations. They maintained detailed accounts and records of everything.

This is unlike the Mukti-Bahini and others. Information management was simply not their best strength. And it was partly for this weakness that Mujib's model of a command economy failed completely.

If you noticed, the likes of BBC News hardly put this in their television headlines. But they did report the recent capsized launch incident yesterday. They did report on the Cambodian war crimes trial in the past. But not this one. They already know well in advance that this "trial" is nothing more than a farce and hardly worth reporting.

I salute the organizers of Shahbag Square for their commitment, but I find their naivete laughable to say the least. Are there not critical issues to address at present?

Naivete is not an option.

not only BBC but all the world media... I have wasted a lot of time watching Al jazeera last few days but couldnt find ShahBag..... the world media already use "alleged or claimed by Bangladesh" while mentioning Bangladesh genocide... The young generation and the Govt putting another question mark on our glorious history... Today Sharmila Bose questions 1971, 50 years later someone else will make Qader Molla a hero for biased trials against him...... we all are idiots.... ...

 

[scholseys]

not only BBC but all the world media... I have wasted a lot of time watching Al jazeera last few days but couldnt find ShahBag..... the world media already use "alleged or claimed by Bangladesh" while mentioning Bangladesh genocide... The young generation and the Govt putting another question mark on our glorious history... Today Sharmila Bose questions 1971, 50 years later someone else will make Qader Molla a hero for biased trials against him...... we all are idiots.... ...

cnn made it look like pro jamaati forces versus anti jamaati forces

 

[Anubis]

Demand for killing without trial that is what shbag mob is asking for. That is blatant criminal and fascist act by itself. No matter how many people shows up to see this fascist spectale, when dust settles these people are accountable for their criminal and malicious intent to kill. I don't know about UK law and what Hammer-fist will be entitled to but in in the state of Goergia in US max punishment for such criminal intent is death sentence or life in prison.

I choose hypoxia for my execution.I'll pay the state.

 

[PlanetSoldier]

public likes to vote who they know. Khaleda zia is BNP and she is the right person to lead the country, stop with your awami league propaganda. Every awami league malaunchor dalal i meet, every single one of em propose this -2 formula since they know awami league's time is running out.

Yeah...she has nice color Arab look . Lots of her money are being spent for her current palace (300k per month rent ) and also a big money is required for her parlor. She'll be bankrupt if can't lead the country next term...right person indeed.

 

[Hammer-fist]

I choose hypoxia for my execution.I'll pay the state.

Jamati-supporters have gone beserk on this forum and are insulting people's families and calling for members to be executed.

However this is the nature of Jamatis and it clearly proves they do not really believe in democracy, where you are allowed to express alternative opinions.

Anyway the nationalist Bangladeshi army will definitely decide that in the long run Jamatis are a security threat to our country (I think the current consensus in the high command is they can be tolerated but never allowed to reach a certain level of power). Last year the army arrested fundamentalists in the army trying to organize a coup and they even made an allusion to this forum believe it or not.

We are Muslims and Islam is part of us and we are part of it. So we should have religious soldiers in our army e.g. with beards, who pray (Deobandis, Tableeghis, Fultolis etc) but our army should maintain a no-Jamati and no-Hizbut Tahrir policy whereby anyone found belonging to or supporting these organizations should be banned, or arrested.

 

[scholseys]

Most developed countries are against the death penalty, only few hick states in the US are for it. It is time the death penalty is abolished from our constitution.

 

[Anubis]

Yeah...she has nice color Arab look . Lots of her money are being spent for her current palace (300k per month rent ) and also a big money is required for her parlor. She'll be bankrupt if can't lead the country next term...right person indeed.

Got any other options to vote?

Most developed countries are against the death penalty, only few hick states in the US are for it. It is time the death penalty is abolished from our constitution.

Come and say that in Texas.YEEHAW!

 

[Zabaniyah]

I understand.But the court also takes witnesses as proof.The state did not bring any credible witness.Here is and article from Bangladesh protidin by an Awami MP.

এ মামলার প্রথম বিচার্য বিষয়ে সন্দেহ সৃষ্টির চেষ্টা হয়েছে কাদের মোল্লা বনাম কসাই কাদের নিয়ে। প্রসিকিউশনের দাবি, মিরপুরের কুখ্যাত খুনি কসাই কাদেরই আজকের কাদের মোল্লা। প্রমাণ হিসেবে অন্যান্য সাক্ষ্য-প্রমাণের সঙ্গে তৎকালীন পত্রিকায় প্রকাশিত কসাই কাদেরের একটি ছবি উপস্থাপন করা হয়েছে। চশমা চোখে দেওয়া কসাই কাদের পাকিস্তানি সেনাকমান্ডার নিয়াজীর পাশে দাঁড়ানো।

So, where's that photo?

জনদাবি উঠেছে, সরকার যেন কাদের মোল্লার বিরুদ্ধে ঘোষিত রায় মেনে না নিয়ে উচ্চতর আদালতে আপিল করে। আশা করি, জনতার আবেগকে সম্মান দেখিয়ে সরকার অবশ্যই আপিল করবে। সে ক্ষেত্রে সরকার যদি দেশের স্বনামধন্য ও প্রথিতযশা আইনজ্ঞদের এ মামলার প্রসিকিউটর নিয়োগ না করে তবে আমার ভয় হচ্ছে_ 'মহামান্য উচ্চতর আদালত থেকে আরও বিব্রতকর রায় আসতে পারে।'

Mob justice?

 

[Hammer-fist]

Shahbagh protests continue

People gather around the image of the National Flag drawn on the street at the city's Shahbagh to demand death penalty to all war criminals of 1971. Photo: Amran Hossain


Star Online Report

The leadership of the movement at Shahbagh belongs not to any political group, organisation or network, but to all those men, women and children who show up so eagerly every day at the intersection, leaving behind jobs and family responsibilities, to fulfil their dream of a Bangladesh they want to see.

Yet, among the people occupying Shahbagh 24 hours, a few young and passionate souls stand out as guiding forces of the movement, which began at Shahbagh intersection and spread to the rest of the capital and the country.

They have been out on the streets since the afternoon of February 5, directing and managing the crowd, chanting slogans demanding capital punishment to war criminals and ensuring that the spirit of the mass never dies down.

Amirul Haq Polash, a student of Buet and a member of Bloggers and Online Activists Network, told The Daily Star that the organisation has been formed very recently.

“Many of us who are working together right now on the ground had never met each other before. In fact, I knew many of my comrades only by their pen names on blogs, not by their real names or identities,” says Polash.

The volunteers and organisers say they have never imagined that their call would result in something of this magnitude.

“When we first came to Shahbagh, there were not even enough people to hold two big banners. But as news spread about our initiative, people from all walks of life joined us – all we had to do was embrace them with open arms,” Polash said.

The organisers, however, admit that they were worried the crowd would fizzle out as night fell. They were amazed and grateful when, instead of fading, the movement only got stronger as the hours passed.



The movement is successful because people see it as their own movement, says Baki Billah, an activist and an organiser of the movement.

But how does one make decisions when the movement belongs to everyone? As different groups are involved in various capacities, it is impossible to consult everyone before coming to a consensus.

The organisers say they try to discuss with different student and cultural groups involved in the movement.

Parvez Alam, coordinator of Jatir Swarthe Bloggers Online Activists, a group that has been working with the Network from the very beginning, said that it requires compromise and patience to reach a common ground.

Delwar Hossain, president of Slogan Ekattur, also an organiser, said “We realised that for the sake of the movement’s sustainability, we needed to rise above our individual and group identities.”

Echoing this view, Polash said they welcome anyone who expresses solidarity with the movement. “We cannot prevent someone from joining; at best we can urge them to keep their political agendas, banners and slogans aside.”

Asked how they respond to criticisms that their focus on the death penalty is too narrow, the organisers argue that they have declared a seven-point demand, including amending the International Crimes (tribunals) Act 1973, if necessary, within the shortest possible time to ensure fair trial, banning Jamaat as a political group in Bangladesh and making the war crimes tribunals permanent.

The organisers say that they will continue their fight, no matter what comes in their way.

“Sleep?” laughs Dewan Tawkir, one of the 120 volunteers working round-the-clock, when asked where and when he manages to get rest. “We will sleep when our demands are met!”

Shahbagh protests continue

BANGLADESH SAYS NO TO REZAKARS.

 

[idune]

@Kobi, are there close picture of organizers of this mob?

 

[scholseys]

Yeah...she has nice color Arab look . Lots of her money are being spent for her current palace (300k per month rent ) and also a big money is required for her parlor. She'll be bankrupt if can't lead the country next term...right person indeed.

300k for a house in Gulshan is not that expensive, considering she needs a safe neighborhood and a big house to attend lots of political personals. Where do you expect her to live? in a slum? she was twice the prime minister of a democratic Bangladesh and the reigning leaders of the opposition, her security is of a great concern for the future of Bangladesh. If you call her house a palace then you haven't seen much. Even a 2200 sq foot apartment in gulshan goes for 1 lac a month.

 

[Zabaniyah]

On another note, it can help if they can acquire additional and relevant information from Pakistan and India. Not for politics, but just for the sake of any possible, and as much evidence as possible.

 

[PlanetSoldier]

Got any other options to vote?

Yeah...her glorious son Tareq the b$stard need the central reserve system in control ...there are lots of such things can be discussed in related threads...not here. This thread is regarding the progressive hypocrisy of our nation...let's stick to that .

 

[Hammer-fist]

Shahbagh has continued for 5 days and will probably continue for quite a while.

At the very least it will keep Jamati and Shibir thugs off the streets of Dhaka where they were burning cars, destroying, vandalizing and where they killed people.

 

[idune]

300k for a house in Gulshan is not that expensive, considering she needs a safe neighborhood and a big house to attend lots of political personals. Where do you expect her to live? in a slum? she was twice the prime minister of a democratic Bangladesh and the reigning leaders of the opposition, her security is of a great concern for the future of Bangladesh. If you call her house a palace then you haven't seen much. Even a 2200 sq foot apartment in gulshan goes for 1 lac a month.

These people are in awami distributed propaganda dope. The amount awami league looted and looting Bangladesh should take every and all properties of Awami League leardes including Dhanmondi 32 house.