Serbian Armed Forces (pictures and discussion)

[proka89]

Serbia opened the Tank Biathlon in Russia

The first crew of the Serbian Armed Forces’ team opened the Tank Biathlon at the training ground Alabino near Moscow. Yesterday, our team started at the individual race, and, at the end of the day, took fourth place in the overall scoring, behind the host – Russia, Armenia and Kazakhstan. For now, Serbia is followed by Belarus, Kirgizia, India, Mongolia, China, Angola, Kuwait and Venezuela.

Time scoring differences between the teams in the first half of the chart are minimal, so a great battle is expected in the next part of the competition, since tomorrow and the day after – which is how long the first stage lasts – the second and third crews of all teams will be driving.

The “Tank Biathlon 2014” was opened by Russian Defence Minister Army General Sergey Shoygu, with the attendance of many guests from the 12 competing countries. Minister Shoygu greeted the competing countries from Europe, Asia, Africa and South America, wishing them a competition of sportsmanship and fair fight.

- We are content with the current rank. Our team gave their best. We believe that the arbiters will follow the pre-stated rules in the further course of the competition – Colonel Kuzmanovic, our team’s leader, said.

The competition has four stages. During the first and the second stage, tank crews compete in skills of driving tanks, overcoming tank barriers and shooting, while during the third stage, they compete at the sports training ground. The top four teams after the third stage enter a relay-race, which will decide which country is the winner of the Tank Biathlon 2014.

The opening ceremony and the first day of the competition were also attended by the delegation of the Armed Forces of Serbia, headed by Army Commander Lieutenant General Aleksandar Zivkovic, and Serbian Ambassador to the Russian Federation Slavenko Terzic.

After the beginning of the competition, General Zivkovic visited the Command of the Airborne Forces of the Russian Federation, where he met with the Forces’ Commander Colonel General Vladimir Anatolyevich Shamanov.

Generals Zivkovic and Shamanov discussed possibilities for improving the cooperation between our Army and the Airborne Forces of the Russian Federation, and the forthcoming joint exercise in October in our country.

 

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[Milosjevtic]

Yesterday (19th of August) Serbia and Serbian Army marked the 100th anniversary of the Battle of Cer.

The Battle of Cer was fought during the first phase of the Austro-Hungarian invasion. Battles were fought in Western Serbia, near the city of Shabac and surrounding villages. Serbian army, under the command of general Stepa Stepanovic, was victorious!

I please some of older Serbian members of this forum to post some pictures from the celebration, because I still cannot.

 

[proka89]

100 years since first Allied victory in WW1

The decisive stage of the Battle of Cer, which ended as the first major Allied victory in World War I, took place in the night between August 15 and 16, 1914.

The battle was fought in western Serbia as the troops of the Serbian Kingdom defended against an invasion force of Austria-Hungary, attacking from the territory of what is today Bosnia-Herzegovina.

"The fact that tiny Serbia managed to defeat the Austro-Hungarian troops so comprehensively at Cer despite being at a great disadvantage in every sense was met with shock and disbelief in Vienna and Berlin, as well as with jubilation among the Allies, and Serbia's reputation grew unexpectedly," Tanjug noted in its report.

Greatly exhausted by the Balkan Wars against Turkey and Bulgaria - which it won at the cost of many casualties - Serbia was attacked by Austro-Hungary, which made no secret of its intention to destroy it completely.

The reasoning of top officials in Vienna was that the perfect time has come to wipe weak Serbia off the map in what was expected to be "a small war."

The Austrian Fifth Army began a forced march towards the Drina River in the Loznica area on August 12 as the Austro-Hungarian Second Army marched towards the Sava River in the area between Sremska Mitrovica and Šabac.

Squads of Serbian troops took up the fight on the two rivers, resisting the advance of an overwhelming, incomparably better-equipped Austro-Hungarian force for four days from August 12 to 15.

In the late afternoon of August 14, General Stepa Stepanović, who was in command of the Second Army following the return of Field Marshal Radomir Putnik, received the order to retake Šabac.

In the morning hours of August 15, faced with an Austro-Hungarian onslaught towards Valjevo, the Serbian Supreme Command ordered the Third Army to block the path to Valjevo from the valley of the Jadar River in any way possible, while the Second Army was ordered to move towards Tekeriš and attack the enemy's left flank.

There, on the south-western slopes of Mt. Cer near Tekeriš, the two forces clashed heavily in the night between April 15 and 16, with the bitter fighting ending in a resolute Serbian victory.

The Austro-Hungarian 21st Division retreated and the 8th Corps followed suit - eventually, the Austro-Hungarian Fifth Army withdrew back to Bosnia across the Drina River.

The Austro-Hungarian troops were in a state of disarray and general low morale, Tanjug said.

"The army was defeated, fleeing in a reckless, wild and panicky fashion - a routed force, or rather, a scattered mob, was rushing towards the border in mindless fear," Egon Erwin Kisch - a famous journalist and intellectual who was with the Austro-Hungarian troops at the time - wrote in his diary sometime in late August 1914, portraying the atmosphere among his comrades.

With the exception of 4,500 prisoners of war, none of the approximately 200,000 Austro-Hungarian soldiers who had invaded Serbia remained in the country as Operation Cer ended on August 24.

The Austro-Hungarian casualties in the bloody fighting totalled 27,000, with around 16,500 Serbian soldiers put out of action, including 2,107 dead.

The operation ended following a pursuit of the enemy troops all the way to the Drina and after the closing battles around Šabac on August 21-24, 1914.

In the wake of the resolute victory and his success as a commander, General Stepa Stepanović was awarded the rank of field marshal.

The Battle of Cer memorial inscription reads, 'Your deeds are immortal'

Battle of Cer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

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This is the reason why our Migs were grounded for over three months:

We had long been in a situation where we didn’t have the means for our planes to fly, but this issue has just been settled – Minister of Defence said, underlining that we are now placing one by one plane to use.

He explained that the acquisitions of batteries had been timely conducted, but that there was no agreement on the side of the Russian Ministry for the warrantee to be extended, if batteries from an Indian company were placed on MiGs.

- The price of Indian batteries, in accordance with the Law on public procurement, and that of military equipment, was the best, but it was to no avail since we couldn’t get all the other certificates we needed – Gasic said, adding that the aid sent by the Russian President was arranged during the talks between Sergey Shoygu, Russian Minister of Defence and the delegation of the Serbian Defence Ministry about 10 days ago. Minister also said that Russian legal procedure prescribes that only the president can make a decision about a donation.

 

[Sheikh Rauf]

Tomorrow is the day of the Serbian Armed Forces, so i decided to open this thread. These are some pictures from the preparation of the military parade that will be held tomorrow:

Amazing pictures and Beautiful country God bless you..
Thank you for sharing!

 

[Dragi]

Global Firepower just ranked Croatia 14th as a regional power (Europe) and Serbia as 19th ? what are they smoking over there?

 

[Milosjevtic]

Global Firepower just ranked Croatia 14th as a regional power (Europe) and Serbia as 19th ? what are they smoking over there?

Many criteria were taken in consideration: number of active and reserve force, equipment, annual budget, participation in peacekeeping missions, etc.

 

[proka89]

Many criteria were taken in consideration: number of active and reserve force, equipment, annual budget, participation in peacekeeping missions, etc.

Global firepower lists are full of crap. In Europe they have put Croatia above Greece, Romania, Portugal, Belarus....And Croatian army is smaller, with a smaller budget, and much less equipment than any of those. And when you look at country BDP, number of citizens... Croatia is also far behind those countries in those parameters.

And GFP data is often wrong.

 

[vostok]

My Serbian brothers, recently I read that West want to close Russian MOE centre in Nish. Is it true?

 

[proka89]

My Serbian brothers, recently I read that West want to close Russian MOE centre in Nish. Is it true?

Yes they are putting pressure on our government. They were against that center from the beginning, and now with additional paranoia in EU and NATO, and Serbia refusal to impose sanctions to Russia, they are trying everything to push Russian influence from Balkan area. They dont wish to have Russian bases in what they see as their sphere of interest. They are probably afraid that one day that center can become military base, or something like that.

Blic Online | Amerika i EU traže da se zatvori srpsko-ruski centar za vanredne situacije u Nišu?

 

[Dragi]

They dont wish to have Russian bases in what they see as their sphere of interest.

it seems to me that Wall street and War street USA see the entire globe as their sphere of interest. I hope the Serb's are smart enough to see the EU for what it is , a big joke. No new members for the next 5 years, and for Serbia the next 50 years. The US will also never be an ally, they don't have Allies, just people who serve them and people they throw away because they can no longer turn a profit on them.
Turn to Russia, China , India and be part of the next global economy.

 

[Dragi]

this loan was almost certainly jeopardized by the Serbias baffling fixation on joining the EU for God knows what perceived benefit. What has it done for Croatia? They are even worse off than Serbia. Fielding a fleet of decrepit mig 21's from Yemen and all they received from the US was a fleet of used MRAP's from Afghanistan.

.janes Igor Bozinovski, Belgrade serbia-s-mig-29s-return-to-flight-ops

Serbia's plans to use a recently announced Russian loan of almost USD1.5 billion for the procurement of MiG-29M/M2 fighters, Mi-17/171 helicopters, 3D-surveillance radars, and S-300PMU2 or S-350E and Pantsir-S1E air defence systems turned into fiasco when, during a visit to Moscow, Gasic revealed that the Russian loan for modernising Serbia's Armed Forces had been frozen and that a planned purchase of new fighters had been delayed.

This has raised questions about the future of the supersonic element of Serbia's Air Force, given its few remaining MiG-21s will soon be unserviceable and its MiG-29s will reach the end of their service lives in 2018.