Seoul-Beijing Warmth + Seoul-Tokyo Chill = US Impotence

[xunzi]

阿共损人利己。

当年苏修跟大陆边界更长，又不见什么“encroachment”。就几百公里鸭绿江，又能成得了气候？

就算当年encroachment，那现在又如何？高丽Samsung都来大陆开厂开店啦， 有威胁中国安全没？

First, in foreign country like PDK, speak English so all international friends and audience can understand. Second I don't feel any threat by Korea in any shape and form. No dispute exist with Korea. Jiandao/***** is minor that only small number of ultra Korean nationalists claimed. Satellite image and modern border territory already set with Korea. Samsung is just one giant of Korea. They are the GDP of Korea Inc. Their success is not to be fear. We will have 10x China equivalent of Samsung in China within next 20 years. However I fear Japan. This the country that always eyes swallowing up China territory when we were pathetic and weak. Korea never have any ambition nor the capability to do so even when we were weak. But Japan? that is a different story.

 

[BoQ77]

Yeah Vietnam swept away China backed Khmer Rouge in 1 week.
That's also for our security.

 

[xunzi]

Yeah Vietnam swept away China backed Khmer Rouge in 1 week.
That's also for our security.

Once again, our support of Khmer Rouge is about strategic interest to stop your ambition to expand during Sino_Soviet split. Ask our American friends. They should know more because they involved with the Khmer Rouge more than we do.

 

[Lux de Veritas]

First, in foreign country like PDK, speak English so all international friends and audience can understand. Second I don't feel any threat by Korea in any shape and form. No dispute exist with Korea. Jiandao/***** is minor that only small number of ultra Korean nationalists claimed. Satellite image and modern border territory already set with Korea. Samsung is just one giant of Korea. They are the GDP of Korea Inc. Their success is not to be fear. We will have 10x China equivalent of Samsung in China within next 20 years. However I fear Japan. This the country that always eyes swallowing up China territory when we were pathetic and weak. Korea never have any ambition nor the capability to do so even when we were weak. But Japan? that is a different story.

I do not see the whatsoever reason that is able to justify supporting a bunch of gangster and criminal.

You need to read more if you think Korea does not have ambition against China. Korean would like to claim the entire Manchuria saying that these are Goguryeo land illegally occupied by China.

Goguryeo controversies - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Korea also claim entire Changbai Shan, and fortunately, PRC leaders wise up, telling Korean off.

Border Disputes between China and North Korea

 

[xunzi]

I do not see the whatsoever reason that is able to justify supporting a bunch of gangster and criminal.

You need to read more if you think Korea does not have ambition against China. Korean would like to claim the entire Manchuria saying that these are Goguryeo land illegally occupied by China. Korea also claim entire Changbai Shan, and fortunately, PRC leaders wise up, telling Korean off.

Border Disputes between China and North Korea

Once again, ultra nationalists exist in all countries. The question will remain, does Korea ever possess that capability to invade and take Manchuria out of our hand? Even if let say they can do that for whatever reasons. Perhaps we are becoming even more pathetic than the late Qing, for instance, they will have to do that in front of the world community without objection when modern national territory is set in stone. I mean you can go goggle China and Korea map and see for your own eyes!

 

[xesy]

Military alliance like NATO and partners and Unions are two different tracks. Only in a regional union like EU you need close working relationships between nations, but in a military alliance like NATO a close relationship between political leadership is not required, only close military-to-military working relationship is sufficient. Anti-terrorism alliance like SCO requires even less working relationship, between political leadership and military.

I personally see these long term future possibilities. An SCO anti-terrorism alliance that may include these possible future unions or sub regions:
- North East Asian Union (China+Japan+Korea's+Mongolia)
- EaEU (Eurasian Economic Union, former Soviet countries, except for the ones that join EU/NATO)
- ASEAN+Bangladesh+Sri Lanka
- West Asian Union (Turkey+Iran+Pakistan+Afghanistan+Shia 3rd of Iraq+Kurdish part of Iraq)

The Unions will naturally happen if people find them advantageous, but most important I believe is the military alliance structure that provides collective security. Since China is emerging as the clear leader in Asia, it can lead the SCO anti-terrorism limited-scope alliance for now and include as many of above mentioned countries as possible. Then later if member nations find it necessary, the alliance can evolve into something similar to NATO.

Shanghai Cooperation Organisation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"The Regional Anti-Terrorist Structure (RATS), headquartered in Tashkent, Uzbekistan, is a permanent organ of the SCO which serves to promote cooperation of member states against the three evils of terrorism, separatism and extremism. The Head of RATS is elected to a three-year term. Each member state also sends a permanent representative to RATS.[6]"

Actually Vietnam is a member of the No Alliance Movement, started in the beginning of Cold War. There are around 50 countries around the world in the movement, including India, Indonesia and many African countries. So as of now Vietnam won't join any alliance, both military and political alliance.

 

[BoQ77]

Once again, our support of Khmer Rouge is about strategic interest to stop your ambition to expand during Sino_Soviet split. Ask our American friends. They should know more because they involved with the Khmer Rouge more than we do.

Let's count the quantity of Chinese military advisors to Khmer Rouge ... hundreds ? No, thousands.

Let's count the victim of Khmer Rouge ... Hundred thousands ? No, Millions

 

[dlclong]

Many PRCs are ignorant about the pro-China faction in Japan and forever think Japan is enemy. In reality Japan has a big pro-China elites just that they are always taken down by USA.

These PRC warmongers are foolish, they are not aware that once China fight Japan, even the pro-China elites may turn away from China.

PM Hatoyama is a pro-China elite, He wants to create EU style East Asia Union with China. He even apologize for Japan invasion of China.

Japanese PM pushes for East Asian union - FT.com

Former Japanese prime minister slammed as 'traitor' at home - CNN.com

Former Japanese PM Yukio Hatoyama apologises for atrocities in China | South China Morning Post

u don't know how much u stupid? ? Too naive, so stupid to the limit.
Some published on your point of view about China, I do not agree with the majority. u do not understand China. Singaporeans do not take the idea to represent China.

 

[Lux de Veritas]

u don't know how much u stupid? ? Too naive, so stupid to the limit.
Some published on your point of view about China, I do not agree with the majority. u do not understand China. Singaporeans do not take the idea to represent China.

Go study more dude. 不要做愤青。 没有共产党，就没有新中国，没有日本人，就没有共产党。老毛都认了。

 

[dlclong]

Go study more dude. 不要做愤青。 没有共产党，就没有新中国，没有日本人，就没有共产党。老毛都认了。

呵呵，大部分愤青，都是反共产党，反社会型的，too young，too naive，I do not agree with u, so i‘m 愤青? What is the logic？

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

We were not like the European Imperialists ; where they only care to retard the native population and seize all resources for the home country.

When we colonized , we made every effort to make the colony like JAPAN.

We put significant resources for educational, health, industrial, and economic development(s).

Stop your bullsh1t, you make your colony like Japan? Koreans and Chinese were nothing but a second class citizens on their soils, without saying that your army use these peoples as biological warfares subjects and experimentation, the cruelty was beyond description. You built rails and roads to facilitate the invasion and if you guys make your colony better was to facilitate Japanese citizens to colonize the conquered lands...you guys were so selfishely think of yourself and nobody else, your Imperial Japanese did not earn the heart and mind of Chineses nor Koreans and at the end after the capitulation, Japaneses citizens of the colony have to run back to Japan fearing of retaliation.

So please spare us of your Japanese's kindness, honesty , good will during WWII, your ancestors have learned alot from China but failed to undestand that 打江山容易,坐 江山难, 得民心者 得天下.

 

[Lux de Veritas]

Stop your bullsh1t, you make your colony like Japan? Koreans and Chinese were nothing but a second class citizens on their soils, without saying that your army use these peoples as biological warfares subjects and experimentation, the cruelty was beyond description. You built rails and roads to facilitate the invasion and if you guys make your colony better was to facilitate Japanese citizens to colonize the conquered lands...you guys were so selfishely think of yourself and nobody else, your Imperial Japanese did not earn the heart and mind of Chineses nor Koreans and at the end after the capitulation, Japaneses citizens of the colony have to run back to Japan fearing of retalition.

So please spare us of your Japanese's kindness, honesty , good will during WWII, your ancestors have learned alot from China but failed to undestand that 打江山容易,坐 江山难, 得民心者 得天下.

Japan did made everyone second class citizen.

The Korean do hate Japan. The Taiwanese don't. The Taiwanese only think about mainland colonization and the so call 228 as well as KMT white terror.

The Japan developing Korea is true. But so are they atrocities like Comfort Women which make Korean their sex slaves.

The South East Asian Chinese fought the Japan. The Malays and Indians were big big collaborators and welcome the Japanese with their legs spread open.

Our Lee Kuan Yew Peranakan PAP government in Singapore are collaborators in Japanese occupation time. So they are teaching us not to hate Japan. Nowadays, the image of Japan in Singapore is positive.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

Personally, I dont hate Japan for what they did to us in the pass, that's was the price to pay for been weak. Thought out China's history when we're at the weakess point of history, there were alway wars and invasions....If we don't learn and take the corrective measures, we will alway expose ourself in the meat block ready for others to cut.

As for now I only hope that all Chinese make realistic assessment and be pragmatic vis-a-vis Japan, we don't need to be anti-Japan generated from those propaganda Chinese's anti-Japanese movies to lock us with hatred and vengeance, and misleading our future and opportunity to find a pacific solution with Japan..

 

[TruthSeeker]

Barack know that the real enemy of USA is China and he wanted to give China trouble. The problem is there are too many Jews in USA elite class and these Jews want trouble with Arabs.

What you don't seem to understand is that most American Jews vote for Democrats and totally support Barack Obama. In fact, I don't think there are any Jewish Congressmen or Senators that are Republicans with the exception of Eric Cantor, who has been defeated for re-election in 2014. So Barack Obama is not independent of the Jewish lobby, he is totally beholden to Jewish Democrats in his party.

 

[Lux de Veritas]

What you don't seem to understand is that most American Jews vote for Democrats and totally support Barack Obama. In fact, i don't think there are any Jewish Congressmen or Senators that are Republicans with the exception of Eric Cantor, who has been defeated for re-election in 2014. So Barack Obama is not independent of the Jewish lobby, he is totally beholden to Jewish Democrats in his party.

There are 2 groups of Jews. The Jewish peasants and middle class on one side and Jewish elites on the other. They are diametrically opposite on their outlook.

The Jewish peasant would want a peaceful deal and would probably support a pre 1967 border. The Jewish elites is a different animal altogether.