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Seoul-Beijing Warmth + Seoul-Tokyo Chill = US Impotence - Forbes

SEOUL – American and Japanese officials may well have looked on in discomfort as Chinese President Xi Jinping and South Korean President Park Geun-hye held a summit here that is emblematic of the increasingly cozy relations between the two nations.

The personal rapport between Park – who speaks Chinese – and Xi appears particularly warm: The two have met five times since they assumed office in, respectively, February and March 2013.

There could be no greater contrast to this chummy relationship than the frost that has settled over Seoul-Tokyo ties, stemming from distrust, if not outright dislike, between Park and Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe.

These realities are likely to irk a United States that seeks to draw Seoul and Tokyo into a trilateral security alliance with itself, in order to counterbalance an expansive China and a threatening North Korea.

China and South Korean were enemies during the 1950-53 Korean War, but after establishing diplomatic relations in 1992, have drawn ever-closer. A key milestone was reached in 2004 when South Korea’s trade with China surpassed its trade with the U.S.

Today, China is South Korea’s largest destination for investment and for trade, which last year hit US$266 billion. If the two nations sign a free trade agreement (during their summit, the two leaders agreed to complete negotiations on this by the end of the year, which may be over-ambitious, but the deal is likely at some point) there will be a further spur.

Much has been made here of the fact that Xi is the first Chinese leader to visit South Korea before visiting North Korea. And indeed: Pyongyang has been busily firing missiles into the sea in recent days in what looks like a tantrum designed to draw attention and/or signal displeasure.

But speaking of snubs…

It was always customary for incoming Korean presidents to make Tokyo their second overseas stop off after Washington but Park, who assumed office in February 2013, overturned this tradition when she chose Beijing as her second destination. Since then, she has steadfastly refused to meet nationalistically minded Abe – even before his provocative visit last December to Yasukuni Shrine, where war criminals are enshrined alongside war dead.

This is odd, as previous South Korean presidents have met Japanese prime ministers with equally problematic historical or revisionist opinions as Abe. Some speculate that Park wants to distance herself from her Japanophile father, the late President Park Chung-hee, who served in Emperor Hirohito’s army, then in 1965, established diplomatic relations with Tokyo in return for colonial-era compensation which he used for economic development, rather than handing it to war- and colonial-era victims.

Abe has made no secret of his desire for a summit with the South Korean president and has tried a charm offensive, turning up unexpectedly at Park speeches and attempting to converse with her in Korean during multinational gatherings. But to no avail. The only time Park has sat down with Abe was at a trilateral summit stage-managed by U.S. President Barack Obama in March. To nobody’s surprise, Park looked far from charmed during that event.

Since then, relations have worsened.

In addition to turning a repeated cold shoulder to Abe’s diplomatic courtship, South Korea continues to criticize Japan for what it alleges is Tokyo’s lack of contrition and compensation for atrocities committed during its colonization of Korea (1910-1945), most notably during the Pacific War (1937-1945).

Abe’s administration has recently been returning fire, launching an undiplomatic investigation into a 1993 landmark Japanese governmental apology to “comfort women” – girls recruited, largely through coercion or trickery, to serve as prostitutes for Japanese wartime troops. (In the end, though, Tokyo refrained from altering the apology.)

Tokyo’s announcement this week that it is upgrading the deployability of its military – a move supported by Washington – has exacerbated the freeze and given Seoul and Beijing, who share a historical distrust of Tokyo, further common cause.

That historical controversies dating to the 1940s – in addition to an ongoing territorial dispute over a pair of Korea-occupied islets in the Sea of Japan – are chilling current political ties so icily is puzzling, given that Japan and South Korean are both democracies, sharing similar economic structures, lifestyles, cultures and values. After all; many national leaders differ over specific issues, but still meet and thrash out “big picture” issues.

Moreover, on the security front, both nations have (separate) alliances with the United States. Washington would love to formalize these into a trilateral partnership, but the Abe-Park split makes this unlikely in the near future.

Yet – ironically – while Washington studiedly avoids taking sides in the Japan-Korea squabbles, it is not Tokyo but Beijing that has been most persistently disregarding Seoul’s (non-economic) priorities.

A long-standing thorn in relations is Beijing’s policy of forcibly repatriating (to a very uncertain fate) North Korean defectors it captures on its soil, rather than handing them over to the South. And last year, Beijing stunned Seoul with its announcement of an Air Defense Identification Zone over a Yellow Sea reef whose ownership is disputed by South Korean and China.

The latter issue may be clarified, post-summit, as Park and Xi agreed to discuss their Exclusive Economic Zones. But – perhaps in order to keep things diplomatic – it is unclear if the former issue was even raised.

Above all, many South Koreans share Washington’s frustration with Beijing, which consistently and predictably pays lip service to Pyongyang’s denuclearization, but applies no leverage – such as halting fuel supplies or trade – to that end. Instead, after their summit, Park and Xi urged a restart of the Beijing-sponsored Six-party Talks. These tortuous negotiations, attended by China, Japan, the two Koreas, Russia and the United States, were held multiple times between 2003 and 2008, but failed to halt Pyongyang’s nuclear programs.

Meanwhile, Pyongyang is a rare – albeit pesky and embarrassing – regional ally for Beijing, one that routinely gives Washington the finger. Moreover, it provides a strategic buffer between democratic South Korea and its own hinterland. That buffer was guaranteed when Mao Zedong’s intervention turned the tide of the Korean War, succored Kim Il-sung (grandfather of current North Korean leader Kim Jong-un) and overturned the de facto reunification of the peninsula by South Korea and its free-world allies in winter 1950.

China’s mastery of Northeast Asia’s diplomatic board leaves the United States and South Korea in different quandaries.

A frustrated Washington can’t frog-march a resisting Seoul into an alliance with itself and Tokyo.

Yet while Seoul basks in pleasantries from Beijing in return for its economic engagement, it seems unable to parlay the good-will into strategic or diplomatic gains. So, as South Korean businesses profit from their ongoing engagement in, and with, the fast-rising economic superpower, troubling strategic questions loom on the horizon.

Japan’s move to take a firmer military stance than at any time since 1945, combined with strategic regional competition between the United States and China, suggest that Washington may start leaning closer to Tokyo than to Seoul on military-security issues.

In similar fashion, Seoul may find itself out of step with other regional nations, notably the ASEAN bloc, which are wary of China’s maritime ambitions.

Of course, Seoul does not need to make an “either-or” choice between Beijing and Washington. But the contradictions implicit in an economic-focused China policy and a strategic-focused US policy confront its diplomats with an increasingly slippery regional tight-rope to traverse.

Contributor
Andrew Salmon
Seoul-based reporter covering the Koreas.
 
Good for the Koreans; independent foreign policy is always good. Plus, they can't ignore the bilateral trade and relations.

I wish China, Japan and Korea were able to go strongly for a trilateral FTA. But, given current geopolitical situation, seems unrealistic. I guess Japan will go toward the US camp more agressively whereas Korea will attempt to balance it out; maybe slightly favoring China, especially if the current government replaced in the next elections.
 
I wish China, Japan and Korea were able to go strongly for a trilateral FTA. But, given current geopolitical situation, seems unrealistic. I guess Japan will go toward the US camp more agressively whereas Korea will attempt to balance it out; maybe slightly favoring China, especially if the current government replaced in the next elections.

We'll never know, buddy. We'll see..!
 
We'll never know, buddy. We'll see..!

Many PRCs are ignorant about the pro-China faction in Japan and forever think Japan is enemy. In reality Japan has a big pro-China elites just that they are always taken down by USA.

These PRC warmongers are foolish, they are not aware that once China fight Japan, even the pro-China elites may turn away from China.

PM Hatoyama is a pro-China elite, He wants to create EU style East Asia Union with China. He even apologize for Japan invasion of China.

Japanese PM pushes for East Asian union - FT.com

Former Japanese prime minister slammed as 'traitor' at home - CNN.com

Former Japanese PM Yukio Hatoyama apologises for atrocities in China | South China Morning Post
 
In reality Japan has a big pro-China elites just that they are always taken down by USA.

That's pretty much matches my point of view.

These PRC warmongers are foolish, they are not aware that once China fight Japan, even the pro-China elites may turn away from China.

No single member wants a fight with Japan. There is no warmonger here. Being fairly new on this forum, I was in fact surprised by the healthy level of pan-Asian ideology here.

PM Hatoyama is a pro-China elite, He wants to create EU style East Asia Union with China. He even apologize for Japan invasion of China.

Yes. I agree. But Hatoyama is history.

Altough a bit outdated, I would suggest people to read VersoBooks.com

Also, McCormac's articles are available at Japan Focus

@Nihonjin1051
 
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Many PRCs are ignorant about the pro-China faction in Japan and forever think Japan is enemy. In reality Japan has a big pro-China elites just that they are always taken down by USA.

These PRC warmongers are foolish, they are not aware that once China fight Japan, even the pro-China elites may turn away from China.

PM Hatoyama is a pro-China elite, He wants to create EU style East Asia Union with China. He even apologize for Japan invasion of China.

Japanese PM pushes for East Asian union - FT.com

Former Japanese prime minister slammed as 'traitor' at home - CNN.com

Former Japanese PM Yukio Hatoyama apologises for atrocities in China | South China Morning Post
I think not just pro-China Japanese will turn away once the war starts, but also the neutral Japanese will start hating China too. It does not matter how a man see a foreign country, once that country goes to war with his own, he just instantly hates that country like he hates it from the very beginning.
 
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How much of all this do people feel is not happening without US involvement / monitoring / concurrence ?
 
I think not just pro-China Japanese will turn away once the war starts, but also the neutral Japanese will start hating China too. It does not matter how a man see a foreign country, once that country goes to war with your own, he just instantly hates that country like he hates it from the very beginning.

There are many pro-China elites in Vietnam as well. Despite recent tension in Spratly, the pro-China faction in Vietnam is still in control.

The PRC in this forum must read more.
 
Hey! Look! My President, Barack Obama, is incompetent. So, any of you nations out there who want to make arrangements that might upset the USA, now is the time. Make your changes while the changing is good. And, you might get lucky and my countrymen elect Hillary Clinton in two years. That will give you another 4 years to build up anti-USA arrangements. Just remember, Barack is on your side ...... He wants the USA to be smaller on the world stage.
 
Hey! Look! My President, Barack Obama, is incompetent. So, any of you nations out there who want to make arrangements that might upset the USA, now is the time. Make your changes while the changing is good. And, you might get lucky and my countrymen elect Hillary Clinton in two years. That will give you another 4 years to build up anti-USA arrangements. Just remember, Barack is on your side ...... He wants the USA to be smaller on the world stage.

Barack is more competent than Bush. Obama forever want to screw China compared to Bush who are much stupid. Bush are lead by the neo-con jews chicken hawk.

Barack know that the real enemy of USA is China and he wanted to give China trouble. The problem is there are too many Jews in USA elite class and these Jews want trouble with Arabs.

Next there is also another kind of Jews from ex-Poland, Ukraine, the so call Galicia epitome by Brzezinski and gangs who hate Russia.

Due to these clown fortunately, China can rise peacefully. Right now, middle east and Russia burn and USA has no energy to turn to China.
 
There are many pro-China elites in Vietnam as well. Despite recent tension in Spratly, the pro-China faction in Vietnam is still in control.

The PRC in this forum must read more.
I'm sure there is. My hometown is near the Vietnam-China border, and I cannot see any tension at all. Both Vietnamese and Chinese merchants cross the border like nothing happen, and there are no big clash among the citizen of the 2 countries.

However, the border guard forces are troublesome. There are rumors that patrol units from the 2 countries shouting and smearing at each other across the border, or even firing warning shots. They also takes hostile actions against citizens of the other countries, like causing hardship when checking, or hold them several hours before letting them enter the countries.
 
That's pretty much matches my point of view.



No single member wants a fight with Japan. There is no warmonger here. Being fairly new on this forum, I was in fact surprised by the healthy level of pan-Asian ideology here.



Yes. I agree. But Hatoyama is history.

Altough a bit outdated, I would suggest people to read VersoBooks.com

Also, McCormac's articles are available at Japan Focus

@Nihonjin1051
Many PRCs are ignorant about the pro-China faction in Japan and forever think Japan is enemy. In reality Japan has a big pro-China elites just that they are always taken down by USA.

These PRC warmongers are foolish, they are not aware that once China fight Japan, even the pro-China elites may turn away from China.

PM Hatoyama is a pro-China elite, He wants to create EU style East Asia Union with China. He even apologize for Japan invasion of China.

Japanese PM pushes for East Asian union - FT.com

Former Japanese prime minister slammed as 'traitor' at home - CNN.com

Former Japanese PM Yukio Hatoyama apologises for atrocities in China | South China Morning Post



There's no one in Japan that wants a war , the new generation of Japanese are opposed to the use of brute force as an answer. Diplomatic compromise first, and dialogue. The use of force is only for situations when common ground is unattainable, or when the opposing side is putting us in a position where we must defend ourselves. Even Abe is a diplomat. Contrary to what may people think, he's not pro-war, but pro-Japanese. He is not like most former Japanese PMs who bow to US interests. Look into the history of Abe; his grandfather was Kan Abe, who ran against PM Hideki Tojo in 1942, was a vehement enemy of militarist government of Japan ; and wanted to end the war by 1942.

A lot of people in PRC really need to look more into Abe's tactics. He's actually pro-greater Chinese and Japanese cooperation. In fact, I believe that when Japan - NK ; PRC- SK dialogue is enhanced, all 4 parties can get back onto the diplomatic table.
 
There's no one in Japan that wants a war , the new generation of Japanese are opposed to the use of brute force as an answer. Diplomatic compromise first, and dialogue. The use of force is only for situations when common ground is unattainable, or when the opposing side is putting us in a position where we must defend ourselves. Even Abe is a diplomat. Contrary to what may people think, he's not pro-war, but pro-Japanese. He is not like most former Japanese PMs who bow to US interests. Look into the history of Abe; his grandfather was Kan Abe, who ran against PM Hideki Tojo in 1942, was a vehement enemy of militarist government of Japan ; and wanted to end the war by 1942.

A lot of people in PRC really need to look more into Abe's tactics. He's actually pro-greater Chinese and Japanese cooperation. In fact, I believe that when Japan - NK ; PRC- SK dialogue is enhanced, all 4 parties can get back onto the diplomatic table.

Many PRC here read too little. They make too much noise. They even anti Singapore. They do not know the convoluted nature of Japanese politics.

The biggest latent enemy of Japan is not China but USA. It is always USA who stop Japan from militarizing and Japanese know that.

USA is also the country who screwed Japan in 1987 plaza accord, which Japan has not recover.

Abe grandfather is famous anti war activist.

Kan Abe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
鷹派安倍 有愧反戰祖父安倍寛 - 中時電子報

在日本政壇,安倍晉三是有名的大右派,有人稱他得自外祖父岸信介的真傳,但其實祖輩另一人安倍寛的存在,世人反而所知不多。大陸中國社會科學院美國研究所學者謝韞撰文指出,安倍晉三還有另一政治DNA,他的祖父安倍寛是日本近代史有名的反戰人物。
 
Many PRCs are ignorant about the pro-China faction in Japan and forever think Japan is enemy. In reality Japan has a big pro-China elites just that they are always taken down by USA.

These PRC warmongers are foolish, they are not aware that once China fight Japan, even the pro-China elites may turn away from China.

PM Hatoyama is a pro-China elite, He wants to create EU style East Asia Union with China. He even apologize for Japan invasion of China.

Japanese PM pushes for East Asian union - FT.com

Former Japanese prime minister slammed as 'traitor' at home - CNN.com

Former Japanese PM Yukio Hatoyama apologises for atrocities in China | South China Morning Post

yea, we are foolishly ignoring those people by fighting two wars with Japan since 2011, oh wait....
 
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