Sensitive Data of Indian Navy’s Scorpene Class Submarines Leaked

[Hellfire]

@PARIKRAMA Welcome news. I feel that the unnecessary media coverage of our counter intelligence efforts within armed forces was the biggest mistake. With civil establishment getting a chance to intervene, things have taken a serious hit

On a personal note:

Please don't post any Congress related post on defence .... it is not only hypocritical on their part but also sickening. They effectively stalled the perspective plan 2020.

 

[NKVD]

"I understand there has been a case of hacking," said Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar. "We will find out what has happened. Navy sources said they are confident that the leak took place "outside India", that the documents appear to show different configurations than what was finalized for India, and stressed that "the damage does not seem to be substantial" even as analysts suggested that's not correct.

Ship maker DCNS said in a statement that French national security authorities are investigating the size, seriousness and cause of the leak, which, it said, could be part of "an economic war" with competitors who it beat for a massive $38 billion contract in Australia.


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"There is India, Australia and other prospects, and other countries could raise legitimate questions over DCNS. It's part of the tools in economic war," said a spokesperson for DCNS quoted by news agency Reuters.

http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/top-...scorpene-submarine-leaked-says-report-1449447

 

[Hellfire]

@NKVD restricted is open source .. thank god if the leak is of restricted nature. Problem would have been of Confidential and above

 

[PARIKRAMA]

@PARIKRAMA Welcome news. I feel that the unnecessary media coverage of our counter intelligence efforts within armed forces was the biggest mistake. With civil establishment getting a chance to intervene, things have taken a serious hit

On a personal note:

Please don't post any Congress related post on defence .... it is not only hypocritical on their part but also sickening. They effectively stalled the perspective plan 2020.

DOne my good friend.. edited the post ..

and yes our media is going bonkers.. Its becoming a flashing news and everybody is up in arms to say Scorpenes have become "junk" for us. That coming from a country where not even one proper defence reporter is there in the first place.. and most of them are under envelope based relationship for multiple vendors ,,, writing colored viewpoints..

 

[NKVD]

@NKVD restricted is open source .. thank god if the leak is of restricted nature. Problem would have been of Confidential and above

First of all Due think OEM will Transfer ultra classified Data to client So early

 

[Hellfire]

DOne my good friend.. edited the post ..

and yes our media is going bonkers.. Its becoming a flashing news and everybody is up in arms to say Scorpenes have become "junk" for us. That coming from a country where not even one proper defence reporter is there in the first place.. and most of them are under envelope based relationship for multiple vendors ,,, writing colored viewpoints..

You put my thoughts into words ... Antaryaami!!!!!!!!

 

[salarsikander]

DOne my good friend.. edited the post ..

and yes our media is going bonkers.. Its becoming a flashing news and everybody is up in arms to say Scorpenes have become "junk" for us. That coming from a country where not even one proper defence reporter is there in the first place.. and most of them are under envelope based relationship for multiple vendors ,,, writing colored viewpoints..

Regardless, It shouldn't have happened in first place. I believe India has upper hand here in twisting frenchies aram for possible discounts or any other arrangements. This is the best time as a customer to present their genuine concern.

Off-Topic question. The manual in question that has been released online contains all the operational parameters of the subm In that case when RFI is sent, say for instance MMRCA, does the vendor provide all technical parameters of the jet that could potentially jeopardise its capacity during war ? If not, then how does the buyer ( AF) would judge it ?

 

[Hellfire]

First of all Due think OEM will Transfer ultra classified Data to client So early

Clearly you missed my point.

In any governmental organisation related to defence, classification of documents is as under (using simple language):

1. Restricted - not to be shown to any and everyone who is not concerned with the department. Accessible to all personnel in the department,

2. Confidential - Any officer or equivalent rank can hold the document

3. Secret - only Deputy Director, Colonel, Captain (IN), Group Captain and above can hold it

4. Top Secret

That is why, my quip

 

[jha]

https://twitter.com/x/status/768407026426843136

 

[punit]

The trail is longer surely.. but its a target for both India and australia.. tbh barracuda shares limited similarity to scorpenes.. so Australia is not affected much other than loss of reputation and credibility of DCNS
India suffers much more owing to the second assembly line and future cooperation which will now be played by yellow journalism articles.. The case of Dassault being costly and DCNS being a source of leak will be played so much that finally opposition and the whole masses will say maintain freeze over underwater fleet expansion.

In one shot the end loser is whom - Australia no contract signed till date
or India where everything from one line to second for parallely 5 sub production to all cooperation everything goes up the smoke..

connect the dots you will see the big picture.. Finally a new war is now initiated against India in a big way...

problem is not that of manual getting leaked ..problem is what else have been leaked and what can be leaked. Can be trust the french !

 

[jha]

Another one..

https://twitter.com/x/status/768341391281762304

 

[NKVD]

Im Praying these Stupid Politician don't get mess up

as Far MDL chief say Project goes on as Plan

 

[Taygibay]

@ A_Poster salarsikander Nilgiri & PariK

Can't comment.​

 

[BON PLAN]

Dear friends,

We need to stay calm!

The new has just one day.
It takes a little time to know right from wrong. By cons already 16 pages of messages .... Ouahhh!

The secret level of the data is the lowest existing in France. Nothing decisive should be there. Frequency transmission can be turn. encryption systems can be changed or set differently. The periscope operating speed is not very strategic! The max depth is already known by a 50m margin I'm sure (Chilean or Malaysian crew speak when on stopover).

I'll even be positive rather: is it not better to be aware that there have been leaks and take corrective action (that may be unnecessary) than to know nothing at all about these leaks?

Finally I find it amazing that a document stolen in 2011 put out for 5 years ....

The fact remains that this is unfortunate for DCNS and France.
I think there is a "task force" in France to clarify the case.
Perhaps we'll not know everything, especially if there is another power in the maneuver, and even more if it's a friendly power ...

 

[Hellfire]

Dear friends,

We need to stay calm!

The new has just one day.
It takes a little time to know right from wrong. By cons already 16 pages of messages .... Ouahhh!

The secret level of the data is the lowest existing in France. Nothing decisive should be there. Frequency transmission can be turn. encryption systems can be changed or set differently. The periscope operating speed is not very strategic! The max depth is already known by a 50m margin I'm sure (Chilean or Malaysian crew speak when on stopover).

I'll even be positive rather: is it not better to be aware that there have been leaks and take corrective action (that may be unnecessary) than to know nothing at all about these leaks?

Finally I find it amazing that a document stolen in 2011 put out for 5 years ....

The fact remains that this is unfortunate for DCNS and France.
I think there is a "task force" in France to clarify the case.
Perhaps we'll not know everything, especially if there is another power in the maneuver, and even more if it's a friendly power ...

Absolutely. Much ado about nothing so far. Lets keep fingers crossed no more skeletons come tumbling out