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Seen & Unseen military images of Indian subcontinent of the past

An unknown badge.

Not sure if it relates to the Indian sub continent

@Icarus ..any Idea ?


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Could be from Burma .. No FC unit has that badge..
 
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Mir Mahmud Khan II, ruler of the princely state of Kalat in what is now the Baluchistan province of Pakistan, testing a Maxim Gun during the army manoeuvers

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Chitral Campaign

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Ruler of Kalat

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French newspaper depictions of ongoing conflict in Northern Frontier

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An unknown badge.

Not sure if it relates to the Indian sub continent

@Icarus ..any Idea ?


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Frontier Constabulary could refer to the Police Force that operates in the "Frontier Regions" of KPK but I have never seen this badge before and am not aware of a pre-partition badge with a rooster either.
The fact that it carries a rooster could mean that it might be of French Origin since the Rooster is an important French Symbol, but this is just a hunch.
 
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8th Rajputs

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The uniform colours of the 8th were red tunics with 'saxon green' facings*. It is not clear what saxon green looks like but the photo shows dark cuffs. The British officers sitting at the front have black trousers with a red stripe. Their tunics have slashed cuffs which was the 1856 pattern, and gold lace. The Lieutenant-Colonel seated in the middle, slightly to the right has two rows of gold lace on his cuff instead of one like the other officers. The officers have crimson sashes over their left shoulders. The officer second from the right is a medical officer, wearing a leather pouchbelt with a badge on the front. Their helmets are light khaki with a pagri of blue and yellow cloth. The older officers have long beards which became fashionable after the Crimean War, they also have medals for theIndian Mutiny with red and white striped ribbons.

There are three Indian officers standing behind, indentifiable by their sash of office on the left shoulder. They have similar coloured tunics but in the collarless 'Zouave' style. There are gold fringes on their blue turbans and the two on the right seem to have the Indian Order of Merit, a medal awarded for valour. The havildars are recognisable by the sash worn on the right shoulder. They have a white leather belt on their left shoulder to carry an ammunition pouch on their right hip and a smaller pouch on their chest for percussion caps. The men on the left and right of the picture are musicians wearing a special tunic with white tape down the front and sleeves decorated with small red crowns.

*The facings colour was Saxon Green until 1888 when they were changed to white. They changed again in 1905 to yellow.
 
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Guess what ? Tipu wasn't a super power... And neither did "Coorgs" etc succeed in such type of warfare did they!


Nah.. They just jumped in masses for recruitment in the army and years layers got disbanded coz of disciplinary and other issues..:lol:



Going by your logic your the weakest people in the entire region isn't it? Join the army ,disbanded and got ruled 200+ years and your northern countrymen .. Massacred,recruited and ruled for 200 years.

Colonial troops joined army due to "martial" traditions .. Many for the money ... And yet none of them faught their own.. Apart from that the British themselves right that the Pashtun is unreliable .. He is brave,doesn't think about the consequences and his habits very much like the British themselves... He has the confidence of a British officer .. He's proud and so on...


And those respectable members are imminent historians credited for award winning books etc!:lol:



History is written by the victors. Japanese looked down on our ppl from the Subcontinent, because for them it was hard to comprehend why any of us would ever fight for and with the British? They deemed those that did as mercenaries. There was no way the British could have taken over India and subjugated it for so long, if Indians didn't sell themselves for a job.
 
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No :4576 ,Havildar Bishan Singh, IDSM, 15th Sikhs

Havildar Bishan Singh joined the India Army on 5th April 1903, and served with the 15th Sikhs during his entire military career. When the Great War began, Havildar Bishan Singh was with his regiment when it proceeded to France as part of Indian Expeditionary Force A. At the time, the 15th Sikhs was part of the Jullundur Brigade along with the 1stBattalion, Manchester Regiment, 47th Sikhs, and 59th Rifles (Frontier Force) in the Lahore Division. Arriving at Marsailles on 26th September 1914, the Indian Corps quickly received new rifles and undertook some organization and training. Less than a month later, much of the Corps was sent into a desperate situation at the front and at once begun suffering heavy casualties.

The 15th Sikhs alone suffered 260 other ranks by 1st November 1914. It was during this period that Havildar Bishan Singh was both wounded by enemy shelling, and awarded the Indian Distingished Service Medal and was Mentioned in Despatches for his actions and bravery. Unfortunately, his wounds were severe enough to force his early pensioning on 27th May 1916.

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Besides his IDSM and mentioned in Dispatches, Havildar Bishan Singh IDSM was awaded two Sanads which granted a square of land and supplementary monthly income for his distinguished service.
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Bishan Singh. He was born in village Gujjarwal in Distt.Ludhiana (Punjab) in a Jatt Sikh family. He did not have any formal schooling but studied at home only. He joined the army on 05 April, 1903 and served the British Indian Army for about 13 years 01 month and 22 days and was pensioned on 27 May, 1916 on medical grounds with all pension benefits as he was injured during the action in the face of the enemy.
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86th Carnatic Infantry

The 86th Carnatic Infantry were an infantry regiment of the British Indian Army. They could trace their origins to 1794, when they were raised as the 34th Madras Battalion.

Their first action was in the Battle of Nagpore in the Fourth Anglo-Mysore War; then the Battle of Kemendine in the First Burmese War. They returned to Burma in 1885, in the Second Burmese War.

During World War I they were attached to the 9th (Secunderabad) Division which remained in India, on internal security and training duties.

After World War I the Indian government reformed the army moving from single battalion regiments to multi battalion regiments. In 1922, the 86th Carnatic Infantry became the 10th (Training) Battalion, 3rd Madras Regiment. The regiment was later disbanded for economic reasons.



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