Seculars under Cardiac Arrest: Rajdeep EXPOSED by Zee News!!!

[Indrani]

Jab tak Afghanistan mein hein tab tak theek hein. Bahar niklegi to wahi khatam kardenge. Hindustan mein koi bhi, kaisi bhi taliban-giri nahin chalegi.
BJP ki sarkar ka matlab yeh nahin ki VHP/BD aapni dadagiri chalu karde. 5 saal ki sarkar hoti hein. Yaad rakhna. PM ki jitni izzat hein, utni nafrat hein goondon se.

Woh waqt chala gaya babu. The subversion of democracy by cronyism and media management, all that is stuff of the past. Sickulars will never been allowed to have a say in India hereafter. Tell you what most of our police and army everyone is converted.

What chance do your secular Bengalis stand against these?

Behenji, aap dono ko by mistake confuse kar rahi ho.
Ek hein religion aur doosra hein Nationalism. Dono aalag aalag hein. To jab bhi un shabdon ka istamal kare, soch samaj ke kare. Aap jaise logon ke bartav pe nirbhar hein ki aagli baar BJP aur Modiji power mein aate hein ya nahin.
Aache din ke liya aache kaam karo. Dadagiri nahin chalegi.

Bhaisahab apko Hinduism ke bare mein nahi pata. Nationalism/Rashtrawad is a core element of Hinduism. WB wallon ne tho waise bhi BJP ko chunna nahi. Baki sab tho Hinduism ke supporter hai. Only WB is the Islamic state in India.

 

[gubbi]

Yeah in media walo ka secularism wahi expose ho jata hai jab asa hota hai..
When hindus are aggressor..
hindu sangathnon ne mara ek muslim ko

This has nothing to do with secularism. This is about a biased journalist - with an agenda to provoke Modi uspporters in US.
If you watch the video, you can see that all the NRIs here say that they are Indians first. They rarely mention the state they are from. One could find Indians from all walks of life and religion who came to attend Modi's talk at the MSG.

Secondly, this shows the utter contempt for NRIs that this douchbag Rajdeep harbored, for reasons best known to him. This in no way says that he is secular, OTOH, just shows his bias and bigotry. So how is this stupid so called 'journalist' a secular?

lastly, you can see one journalist who clearly says that journalists are merely reporters - who report events, news, opinions. When such people try to be opinion makes, that is where trouble starts.

 

[arp2041]

The word is secular and not sickular and we are not minions of Islam. All we want to see is a healthy democracy where every Indian irrespective of religion can live in harmony without stressing over whether a Taliban type Hindu movement will attack them for the religious beliefs

Bhai me batata hu SICKULARISM ka matlab once & for all..........sunlo @nair @scorpionx @seiko aur insabki lady Boss @levina.............

SICKULARISM is a POLICY of convenience which is followed by many "So Called" liberals/highly educated class............

When a Karunanidhi says that Ram is a character or Fiction or MF Hussain makes nude paintings of Hindu Goddess, they INVOKE - "Right To Freedom of Expression & speech" from our Constitution (Fair Enough).

But when a PETA activist calls for vegetarian Eid & gots beaten for that (PETA activists beaten up for calling on Muslims to observe vegetarian Eid - News18.com)

They INVOKE another clause of - Freedom for Practicing there Religion

Fair enough, when a Hindu community calls for "Only Hindu" in Garba utsav then they again start PREACHING SECULARSIM (where is Freedom of Practicing one's religion now, one wonders).

Hence the original word (which I hold high regard for) SECULARISM has completely lost it's RELEVANCE.

 

[Indrani]

This has nothing to do with secularism. This is about a biased journalist - with an agenda to provoke Modi uspporters in US.
If you watch the video, you can see that all the NRIs here say that they are Indians first. They rarely mention the state they are from. One could find Indians from all walks of life and religion who came to attend Modi's talk at the MSG.

Secondly, this shows the utter contempt for NRIs that this douchbag Rajdeep harbored, for reasons best known to him. This in no way says that he is secular, OTOH, just shows his bias and bigotry. So how is this stupid so called 'journalist' a secular?

lastly, you can see one journalist who clearly says that journalists are merely reporters - who report events, news, opinions. When such people try to be opinion makes, that is where trouble starts.

Sorry dear. Rajdeep was the establishment secular. He parroted the same line you see sickulars like @scorpionx spew day in and day out. Not a missed step between them.

 

[nair]

Bhai me batata hu SICKULARISM ka matlab once & for all..........sunlo @nair @scorpionx @seiko aur insabki lady Boss @levina.............

SICKULARISM is a POLICY of convenience which is followed by many "So Called" liberals/highly educated class............

When a Karunanidhi says that Ram is a character or Fiction or MF Hussain makes nude paintings of Hindu Goddess, they INVOKE - "Right To Freedom of Expression & speech" from our Constitution (Fair Enough).

But when a PETA activist calls for vegetarian Eid & gots beaten for that (PETA activists beaten up for calling on Muslims to observe vegetarian Eid - News18.com)

They INVOKE another clause of - Freedom for Practicing there Religion

Fair enough, when a Hindu community calls for "Only Hindu" in Garba utsav then they again start PREACHING SECULARSIM (where is Freedom of Practicing one's religion now, one wonders).

Hence the original word (which I hold high regard for) SECULARISM has completely lost it's RELEVANCE.

Levina our boss?????? I want to take leave tomorrow @levina

 

[gubbi]

Woh waqt chala gaya babu. The subversion of democracy by cronyism and media management, all that is stuff of the past. Sickulars will never been allowed to have a say in India hereafter. Tell you what most of our police and army everyone is converted.

Bhenji, aab majak bhi karne lagi? Band bhi kardo bakwas karna.
Indian Constitution will never allow secularism to be subverted by any religious group. Period. Rahi baat Constitution ko change karne ki...to bas khwab hi dekhti rahiyo!

What chance do your secular Bengalis stand against these?
Bhaisahab apko Hinduism ke bare mein nahi pata. Nationalism/Rashtrawad is a core element of Hinduism. WB wallon ne tho waise bhi BJP ko chunna nahi. Baki sab tho Hinduism ke supporter hai. Only WB is the Islamic state in India.

Bhenji, Hinduism ka 'core' element natinoalism nahin hein. Bahut galt bakwas kar rahi ho. Aap ko wapas padhayi karne school jana chahiye.
Aur aise baaten/goondagiri karogi to jaise Vajpayee paid the price for "India shining", so will Narendra Modi. History has an uncanny ability to repeat itself.
Phir se kehta hun, chodh do yeh Hinduism aur Hindutvavadi ki baate karna. Aap ke samajh ke bahar hein aise complicated subjects. Baas, aache kaam karo. Aache din aapne aap aajayenge.
Btw, why you keep referring to me as a Bengali? Aur waise bhi, jis pradhan mein se hum hein, us state mein Congress ki sarkar chal rahin hein, peechli wali BJP ki sarkar to bahut corrupt thi. Is liye logon ne usko vote OUT kar diya,

Sorry dear. Rajdeep was the establishment secular. He parroted the same line you see sickulars like @scorpionx spew day in and day out. Not a missed step between them.

See, you dont even know what secularism is. Rajdeep, by his very views is biased. So how does that even make him secular?

 

[arp2041]

Levina our boss?????? I want to take leave tomorrow @levina

abey me akela tum sab pey BHARI pad jata hu..........agar ek LEAVE pey chaley jaye toh SICKULARIM ka toh The End ho jayega

 

[Indrani]

Bhenji, aab majak bhi karne lagi? Band bhi kardo bakwas karna.
Indian Constitution will never allow secularism to be subverted by any religious group. Period. Rahi baat Constitution ko change karne ki...to bas khwab hi dekhti rahiyo!

Secularism was introduced by stealth in the constitution and can be undone too likewise. According to our supreme court reading, Hindutva is the "saar" life force of our constitution.

Bhenji, Hinduism ka 'core' element natinoalism nahin hein. Bahut galti bakwas kar rahi ho. Aap ko wapas padhayi karne school jana chahiye.
Aur aise baaten/goondagiri karogi to jaise Vajpayee paid the price for "India shining", so will Narendra Modi. History has an uncanny ability to repeat itself.
Phir se kehta hun, chodh do yeh Hinduism aur Hindutvavadi ki baate karna. Aap ke samajh ke bahar hein aise complicated subjects. Baas, aache kaam karo. Aache din aapne aap aajayenge.
Btw, why you keep referring to me as a Bengali? Aur waise bhi, jis pradhan mein se hum hein, us state mein Congress ki sarkar chal rahin hein, peechli wali BJP ki sarkar to bahut corrupt thi. Is liye logon ne usko vote OUT kar diya,

Bhai sahab apne madrassa mein Islam padha hoga aur galti se usko Hinduism samajh liya. Oh I suspected you were from Bangalore but spoke like a Bengali. Karnatakadallu BJP ne gelthare. Wait and watch.

See, you dont even know what secularism is. Rajdeep, by his very views is biased. So how does that even make him secular?

Well you do not seem to be able to identify secularism as practiced in India. You do not even seem to notice the Judeo-Christian bias of USA. Sad you seem to live in a dream world.

 

[scorpionx]

abey me akela tum sab pey BHARI pad jata hu..........agar ek LEAVE pey chaley jaye toh SICKULARIM ka toh The End ho jayega

Kabhi mail bhi check kar liya karo, bhai.

 

[lightoftruth]

Rajdeep Sardesai is nothing more than a media quack who spearheaded congress line, delivered an agenda against an individual for years he's a perfect example of corrupted paid media ,why make this loser flag bearer of a word which he has nothing to do with ?

 

[gubbi]

Secularism was introduced by stealth in the constitution and can be undone too likewise. According to our supreme court reading, Hindutva is the "saar" life force of our constitution.

Source?
What I found was this:
from wiki: (although other sources say the same thing)
In a 1995 judgment, the Supreme Court of India ruled that "Ordinarily, Hindutva is understood as a way of life or a state of mind and is not to be equated with or understood as religious Hindu fundamentalism ... it is a fallacy and an error of law to proceed on the assumption ... that the use of words Hindutva or Hinduism per se depicts an attitude hostile to all persons practising any religion other than the Hindu religion ... It may well be that these words are used in a speech to promote secularism or to emphasise the way of life of the Indian people and the Indian culture or ethos, or to criticise the policy of any political party as discriminatory or intolerant.[2]

Now you tell me, is SCOI wrong in its interpretation of the Constitution of India?

Bhai sahab apne madrassa mein Islam padha hoga aur galti se usko Hinduism samajh liya. Oh I suspected you were from Bangalore but spoke like a Bengali. Karnatakadallu BJP ne gelthare. Wait and watch.

Alla, BJP madiida karnaame gallannu nodi janata avarige vadde varag haakidaare. Maate hinge kaelaasa maadidare, election gellavallikke chancene illa.
Hum to kabhi madarassa mein nahin pade, bhenji. Khamokan kuch bhi ideas banaleti ho. Navu Basavanna aavaru shishyaru.

Well you do not seem to be able to identity secularism as practiced in India. You do not even seem to notice the Judeo-Christian bias of USA. Sad you seem to live in a dream world.

WTF are you talking about?

 

[Indrani]

Source?
What I found was this:
from wiki: (although other sources say the same thing)
In a 1995 judgment, the Supreme Court of India ruled that "Ordinarily, Hindutva is understood as a way of life or a state of mind and is not to be equated with or understood as religious Hindu fundamentalism ... it is a fallacy and an error of law to proceed on the assumption ... that the use of words Hindutva or Hinduism per se depicts an attitude hostile to all persons practising any religion other than the Hindu religion ... It may well be that these words are used in a speech to promote secularism or to emphasise the way of life of the Indian people and the Indian culture or ethos, or to criticise the policy of any political party as discriminatory or intolerant.[2]
Now you tell me, is SCOI wrong in its interpretation of the Constitution of India?

Nope. As per the court it is a fallacy and error of law to proceed on assumption that Hindutva is hostile to other religions. Hindutva is the Hindu ethos and Hindu culture. That is what Hindutva proponents have been saying all along.

Alla, BJP madiida karnaame gallannu nodi janata avarige vadde varag haakidaare. Maate hinge kaelaasa maadidare, election gellavallikke chancene illa.
Hum to kabhi madarassa mein nahin pade, bhenji. Khamokan kuch bhi ideas banaleti ho. Navu Basavanna aavaru shishyaru.

Ohh, so you were not aware of the hit job performed by Justice Hedge on Yeddy? How the moment Yeddy quit BJP all the news channels went silent on his story and not a squeak about it. Also all the charges were dropped by the court.

There was no increase in the congress vote share. It was the split in BJP and Yeddy's party that made congress come back to power. This situation was reversed in the general elections. BJP is going to win again.

Pity you are in the secular camp being a Ligayata.

WTF are you talking about?

I am talking about a reality of India. A country where the Hindu temples are taken over by the govt in name of secularism but churches and mosques are free. Money from temples are given as haj subsidies and for maintenance of mosques and churches.

A country where Hindu schools are taxed but minority schools are tax free even though those minority schools earn hefty fees from students.

This is just one miniscule part of it.

USA with its public holidays for Christmas but not Diwali or Eid should ring a bell as to its secularism.

 

[gubbi]

Nope. As per the court it is a fallacy and error of law to proceed on assumption that Hindutva is hostile to other religions.

Precisely. So why this goodnagardi? Either ytou dont understand Hinduism or take pleasure in going against the very ethos of a religion you say you practice.

Ohh, so you were not aware of the hit job performed by Justice Hedge on Yeddy? How the moment Yeddy quit BJP all the news channels went silent on his story and not a squeak about it. Also all the charges were dropped by the court.
There was no increase in the congress vote share. It was the split in BJP and Yeddy's party that made congress come back to power. This situation was reversed in the general elections. BJP is going to win again.

A hit job you say? So you just turn a blind eye to all the corrupt practices that were rampant during his reign? Oh, its ok when BJP does it, no?

Pity you are in the secular camp being a Ligayata.

ROFL. Careful. You dont want to alienate or p1ss off this particularly powerful community.
Oh, Btw, Yeddy is a Lingayat! So are many powerful state politicians! And many of those are from BJP.
And yet, you have the audacity to call Lingayats as 'liberal'? Tch tch....

USA with its public holidays for Christmas but not Diwali or Eid should ring a bell as to its secularism.

There is only 1 religious holiday, the 25th of Christmas. You so called Judeo-Christain control of US society has not approved any Jewish holidays - this when people like you claim that Jews are very powerful in US society and govt. So why would there be a Hindu/Muslim religious holiday here?

 

[Levina]

Bhai me batata hu SICKULARISM ka matlab once & for all..........sunlo @nair @scorpionx @seiko aur insabki lady Boss @levina.............

SICKULARISM is a POLICY of convenience which is followed by many "So Called" liberals/highly educated class............

When a Karunanidhi says that Ram is a character or Fiction or MF Hussain makes nude paintings of Hindu Goddess, they INVOKE - "Right To Freedom of Expression & speech" from our Constitution (Fair Enough).

But when a PETA activist calls for vegetarian Eid & gots beaten for that (PETA activists beaten up for calling on Muslims to observe vegetarian Eid - News18.com)

They INVOKE another clause of - Freedom for Practicing there Religion

Fair enough, when a Hindu community calls for "Only Hindu" in Garba utsav then they again start PREACHING SECULARSIM (where is Freedom of Practicing one's religion now, one wonders).

Hence the original word (which I hold high regard for) SECULARISM has completely lost it's RELEVANCE.

1) The title of this thread made go
2) And after reading this

sunlo @nair @scorpionx @seiko aur insabki lady Boss @levina.............

I felt like

Levina our boss?????? I want to take leave tomorrow @levina

Take a leave...

ab mujhe koyi SQL server and share point server samjha de...

abey me akela tum sab pey BHARI pad jata hu..........agar ek LEAVE pey chaley jaye toh SICKULARIM ka toh The End ho jayega

If you didnt realise all the above mentioned "secularists" 're very decent guys and hard to provoke.

Kabhi mail bhi check kar liya karo, bhai.

Please shower some blessed words on him
achhe se!!

 

[Indrani]

Precisely. So why this goodnagardi? Either ytou dont understand Hinduism or take pleasure in going against the very ethos of a religion you say you practice.

Where did I do goondagardi? I only practiced Hindutva.

A hit job you say? So you just turn a blind eye to all the corrupt practices that were rampant during his reign? Oh, its ok when BJP does it, no?

You are mistaken about corruption during Yeddy's time. He was the one who brought in legislation to stop the mining in the first place in 2008. Forgot that? As far as I remember both Mr. Deve Gowda's family and SM Krishna's family own thousands of crore rupee properties. Do you think they got 1000s of crores in dowry? Obviously you also consider them washed in milk.

BS Yeddyurappa: Victim of political vengeance | India News Analysis Opinions on Niti Central

ROFL. Careful. You dont want to alienate or p1ss off this particularly powerful community.
Oh, Btw, Yeddy is a Lingayat! So are many powerful state politicians! And many of those are from BJP.
And yet, you have the audacity to call Lingayats as 'liberal'? Tch tch....

Yup, you seem to be clueless as to how your community views the entire affair. I called you a liberal, not the Lingayats in general.

There is only 1 religious holiday, the 25th of Christmas. You so called Judeo-Christain control of US society has not approved any Jewish holidays - this when people like you claim that Jews are very powerful in US society and govt. So why would there be a Hindu/Muslim religious holiday here?

Yeah why would a secular society only have holiday for the majority community and not the minority community? Seems opposite to the kind of secularism you want in India, doesn't it?

Is it only the holidays? Have you seen how churches and mosques pop up without any issues all over India? India must have probably the most number of mosques and churches in the world. Now do you suppose Hindus find it so easy to build a temple in USA? Do you know how many legal hurdles they have to cross to get to build their temple on even the outskirts of the city in USA? Secular?