Secret Service agent tackled Chinese security official over nuclear football on Trump's China visit

[gambit]

So if it's not forced? How the heck someone will restrain someone from going in?

Because your security corps is poorly trained. Like I said earlier, normal protocols for visiting a foreign country is for the guest to provide the names and photo IDs of EVERYONE, including the president himself, to the host country. The US Secret Service does this literally weeks in advance. This is to prevent problems.

It is also understood that the president's staff accompanies the president everywhere he go. This is necessary because even though he is on foreign soil, he still has to manage a country. He must be allowed to use his own communication methods and talk to his own people whenever he needs to. We did the same courtesy for every Chinese leader who came to the US.

You think the guards would suddenly punch someone like a meth redneck?

Yes, poorly trained Chinese security officers will see everyone as 'meth redneck'.

'Muricans think Rambo is a documentary.

Remember...Your PLAAF used scenes from 'Top Gun' to show off its pilots. How pathetic is that...

 

[Han Patriot]

Because your security corps is poorly trained. Like I said earlier, normal protocols for visiting a foreign country is for the guest to provide the names and photo IDs of EVERYONE, including the president himself, to the host country. The US Secret Service does this literally weeks in advance. This is to prevent problems.

It is also understood that the president's staff accompanies the president everywhere he go. This is necessary because even though he is on foreign soil, he still has to manage a country. He must be allowed to use his own communication methods and talk to his own people whenever he needs to. We did the same courtesy for every Chinese leader who came to the US.


Yes, poorly trained Chinese security officers will see everyone as 'meth redneck'.

The one beating up people are your personnel, how do you define manhandling? Will our officers punch your officials? No matter how much dissatisfaction you have, you cannot attack the security of the host country, and only meth rednecks do that.

Now this story is not even verified and yet you can jump to conclusion so fast. We hosted thousands of dignitaries before, you think it takes a degree holder to do security check? Arrogant Aamericans and they wonder why they get bombed every year. School shootings and violence is inside their head, they are brought up to worship violence. My bro even got a pink rifle after staying there too long. I can see the behavioral change in him, freaking wife has a handgun too.

 

[gambit]

The one beating up people are your personnel, how do you define manhandling? Will our officers punch your officials? No matter how much dissatisfaction you have, you cannot attack the security of the host country, and only meth rednecks do that.

Now this story is not even verified and yet you can jump to conclusion so fast. We hosted thousands of dignitaries before, you think it takes a degree holder to do security check? Arrogant Aamericans and they wonder why they get bombed every year. School shootings and violence is inside their head, they are brought up to worship violence. My bro even got a pink rifle after staying there too long. I can see the behavioral change in him, freaking wife has a handgun too.

Give it up, pal. Chinese security fooked up big time. It does not matter how you interpret 'manhandling' or whatever word you want to challenge. The story is out about Chinese diplomatic security and how they did not recognized the American president's chief-of-staff and tried to stop him from his president.

 

[Han Patriot]

Give it up, pal. Chinese security fooked up big time. It does not matter how you interpret 'manhandling' or whatever word you want to challenge. The story is out about Chinese diplomatic security and how they did not recognized the American president's chief-of-staff and tried to stop him from his president.

Now, the official announcement is this is a fake news, and you my friend is calling it a BIG FCK UP. There is no video nor picture showing how we 'manhandled' him but we only know someone used violence and tackled a host country security personnel in the sovereign soil of another country. There is no diplomatic immunity for security agents genius. You can do that in US not China, we were steady enough to let it go but this is a big disgrace on your diplomatic behavior. If you are not satisfied, you can approach a diplomatic officer, not kick someone in another country. You just can't change rednecks I guess. Btw, we have the right to stop foreigners in our country, no matter who he is, if he doesn't like it, he can file a complaint of leave, not attack an officer of a sovereign country. Understand redneck?

 

[gambit]

Now, the official announcement is this is a fake news,...

Sure it is. We do want to give China the respect she want and if she want the world to know that her security corps is top of the line, the US will accommodate. We will tell the world that what happened was nothing but a misunderstanding of protocols. Our Chinese host was most gracious and accommodating to our concerns.

 

[gambit]

Trust a simple minded Chinese citizen to be unable to distinguish between a terrorist attack and a breach of sovereignty by a foreign country. hahahahahahahaha - amazing. Do entertain us some more with "supal powal" logic.

The reality is this...Assume that the story is true...For now...

If it did happened, it was probably a real misunderstanding on the Chinese part and probably overreaction on the American's. But it is an understandable overreaction, after all, we are talking about the US war authorization codes that go with the president wherever he travels.

I have no problems with the Chinese security officer who was involved, again assuming the story is true, because his leadership failed him. He was only doing what he believed to be his job.

 

[Han Patriot]

Sure it is. We do want to give China the respect she want and if she want the world to know that her security corps is top of the line, the US will accommodate. We will tell the world that what happened was nothing but a misunderstanding of protocols. Our Chinese host was most gracious and accommodating to our concerns.

See this is the kinda of attitude I was talking about. Americans lack simple manners and protocols, and you call us untrained? The correct protocol in such cases is to step back and field a complaint, because this is a foreign country. You are not supposed to attack the officers of a foreign country, this is tantamount to declaring war in the old days.

Whether it is Chinese or otherwise, Americans are showing themselves to be meth rednecks in this case. People will see US as a brute. And we have an indiot here cheering because their officers attacked a foreign officer in foreign soil and boasting about it as the right way to teach China a lesson. What if it was India or Vietnam? Would it be alright too genius? You guys are such a shame to proper diplomatic conduct.

 

[gambit]

See this is the kinda of attitude I was talking about. Americans lack simple manners and protocols, and you call us untrained? The correct protocol in such cases is to step back and field a complaint, because this is a foreign country. You are not supposed to attack the officers of a foreign country, this is tantamount to declaring war in the old days.

We are talking about the president's chief-of-staff and a military officer who carries the country's war authorization codes. So of course the Secret Service agent had to act immediately when he felt they were being denied access to the president, worse, if he believes the Chinese security officer was trying to take the briefcase that contains those codes.

There is no way you can spin this out of the reality that this is a black mark on the Chinese diplomatic corps.

 

[Han Patriot]

We are talking about the president's chief-of-staff and a military officer who carries the country's war authorization codes. So of course the Secret Service agent had to act immediately when he felt they were being denied access to the president, worse, if he believes the Chinese security officer was trying to take the briefcase that contains those codes.

There is no way you can spin this out of the reality that this is a black mark on the Chinese diplomatic corps.

I am asking you again, what happened? Is the news even real? And now suddenly from manhandling, it became we were trying to grab the belongings? Bro, nobody can grab your belongings, if we don't allow you to carry it, please stay in the plane or appraoch a diplomatic officer. NOT BEAT UP AN OFFICER!! WHO THE FCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE. You are taking our kind gesture for granted, we didn't let this escalate out of hand. This is not proper protocol, we have the right to deny entry of suspicious material BECAUSE IT OUR GOD DAMN COUNTRY, understand redneck!!!

 

[Chhatrapati]

Nope...Not real at all...Fake News...!!!

Happy?

They will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience

 

[gambit]

And yet you are jumping and cheering about a fictional account of an officer attacking a foreign officer in foreign soil as 'victory' and tantamount of proper diplomatic protocol? Are you on meth ?

Just for you being so sensitive that a poorly trained Chinese security officer got his butt handed to him -- I will call the event fictional.

But the reality is that this story will make it throughout the diplomatic community. Every country whose leaders want to visit to China will ask the Chinese diplomatic corps about this story and want assurance that this 'fictional' story will not happen to them.

 

[gambit]

Well, even if it is fictional, you are still thinking it is okay to attack an officer doing his duty in his COUNTRY? So our guards should kick some TSAs too when they strip search diplomats? If we were poorly trained we would have shot your guards for attacking a lawful officer doing his duty in his country governed by Chinese laws.

You are clearly not a very smart guy.

If I am a guest in your house, am I supposed to sit there as you insult me or worse yet, physically assault me? And am supposed to sit there and take it?

The story is real. The US Secret Service admitted the event was real. The only thing they changed was that no one was 'tackled' to the ground. But we know better.

When the Chinese security officer tried to stop the military officer from being with the US president and then laid hands on the president's chief-of-staff, that is the diplomatic equivalent of physically assaulting me as I am a guest in your house. Your leadership failed. The US Secret Service agent was doing his job -- protecting the president and ALL of his assets.

Make no mistake about this. The event occurred last yr. This is a black mark on the Chinese diplomatic corps and every country in the world is studying it.

 

[Han Patriot]

You are clearly not a very smart guy.

If I am a guest in your house, am I supposed to sit there as you insult me or worse yet, physically assault me? And am supposed to sit there and take it?

The story is real. The US Secret Service admitted the event was real. The only thing they changed was that no one was 'tackled' to the ground. But we know better.

When the Chinese security officer tried to stop the military officer from being with the US president and then laid hands on the president's chief-of-staff, that is the diplomatic equivalent of physically assaulting me as I am a guest in your house. Your leadership failed. The US Secret Service agent was doing his job -- protecting the president and ALL of his assets.

Make no mistake about this. The event occurred last yr. This is a black mark on the Chinese diplomatic corps and every country in the world is studying it.

You are now acting like an indiot.

You go to someone's house, someone stopped you from entering touched you, and you call it manhandling and you beat up the host. if you don't like the insult, then leave, NOT FCKING BEAT UP THE HOST. Get it genius?

So, now stopping an officer is assault and a real assault if not assault? What logic is this? The correct protocol for such incident is to beat up the host countries officer? Is this logical? You are in China, an no officer would assault an foreign guest, they would stop them by using their hand, if you don't like the 'touch' step back and inform the diplomatic officer of your complaint, YOU DON'T BEAT UP ANOTHER PERSON. Understand redneck?

So beating up another countries officer is not a black mark? What did the Chinese officer do? Did he punch him? How do you define manhandling? No wonder people wanna bomb the crap outtta America.

However wrong the Chinese officer is, YOU DON'T BEAT THEM UP. You use diplomatic protocols, NOT YOUR FCKING FIST, dumbass!!

Hahahahaha - my simple minded Chinese chap -
A spy plane does not enter air space of an adversarial nation by accident.

A bunch of terrorists launching a terror strike on a civilian population is not an invasion by a foreign power.

I can't make it simpler for a "supal powal" fellow like you.

Well genius, if he entered Chinese airspace, he would have been shot, he was in international airspace close to Chinese airspace, a Chinese plane went out to stop him, and an accident happened, they crash landed in Chinese soil. We detained them as per protocol, American paid us compensation and expressed 'regret' we returned the plane in pieces.

A bunch of terrorist trained by Pakistan killing 200+ people is not an invasion? Great indic logic...You have a real supa powan brain.

 

[gambit]

You are now acting like an indiot.

You go to someone's house, someone stopped you from entering touched you, and you call it manhandling and you beat up the host. if you don't like the insult, then leave, NOT FCKING BEAT UP THE HOST. Get it genius?

So, now stopping an officer is assault and a real assault if not assault? What logic is this? The correct protocol for such incident is to beat up the host countries officer? Is this logical? You are in China, an no officer would assault an foreign guest, they would stop them by using their hand, if you don't like the 'touch' step back and inform the diplomatic officer of your complaint, YOU DON'T BEAT UP ANOTHER PERSON. Understand redneck?

So beating up another countries officer is not a black mark? What did the Chinese officer do? Did he punch him? How do you define manhandling? No wonder people wanna bomb the crap outtta America.

However wrong the Chinese officer is, YOU DON'T BEAT THEM UP. You use diplomatic protocols, NOT YOUR FCKING FIST, dumbass!!

And this is why I said your leadership failed your people.

So far, none of you have disputed the fact that we provided the host country with the names and PHOTO IDs of everyone in the delegation. We have no choice but to assume that you do your job -- INFORM YOUR SECURITY CADRE OF WHO IS COMING AND WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE.

Damn...Is it that fooking difficult to do? Looks like it is.

 

[Han Patriot]

And this is why I said your leadership failed your people.

So far, none of you have disputed the fact that we provided the host country with the names and PHOTO IDs of everyone in the delegation. We have no choice but to assume that you do your job -- INFORM YOUR SECURITY CADRE OF WHO IS COMING AND WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE.

Damn...Is it that fooking difficult to do? Looks like it is.

So wht if they look like tom cruise, you don't settle disputes by beating up your host countries officers. Is this correct protocol my dear redneck? You need some valium to calm down? How does our leadership failed ALLL CHINESE when it is your officer assaulting my officers? It doesn't matter if they look like tom cruise, this is China, our officers have the fcking right to stop anybody even your president, you don't like it, complain to a diplomatic officer NOT BEAT UP PEOPLE LIKE AN INDIOT!!!!

Is your head made of lava rock? It is not okay to beat up people when there is a dispute, you call in the person in charge and complain. The whole world is looking at America as a bully and brute, assaulting a sovereign countries officer. Understand redneck!!