Second Language for Pakistan

[Kambojaric]

Dari, the pre-colonial lingua franca. Its not a native tounge per se anymore which means no internal fighting between Punjabis, Sindhis and Pakhtuns.

Its historic presence nevertheless makes it easier for people of the Indus valley to pick it up as compared to completely foreign tounges.

 

[Yankee-stani]

If you want my honest opinion I would say Farsi and Dari should have been chosen as our "national language" when we gained our independence in 1947 making Urdu as national language it was a plain mistake on the founding fathers of the nation but because of East Pakistan had to be a compromise but in 2019 I say Pakistan national language should be Urdu and English, Provincial Govts can mandate citizens to learn the regional language as well as National together I am for a policy of bilingualism KPK can have Pashto language enshrined and have sighs plus heavily regional based media same with all provinces

They won't teach you to build bridges, rockets, motorways, cars, trains etc But I suppose we can import Chinese to do that right while we sell Islam to them?

Reason why I say English should be a 2nd language is not please "gora sahib" but because most of our diaspora is located in the Anglosphere you will find more of us in the UK,USA,Canada,Australia,or NZ than Turkey,Iran, China,GCC most 2nd and 3rd gen like myself barley speak Urdu or speak with heavy accent if you want to connect with us and help promote Pakistan internationally thats the best option

 

[Ritual]

If you want my honest opinion I would say Farsi and Dari should have been chosen as our "national language" when we gained our independence in 1947 making Urdu as national language was plain mistake on the founding fathers of the nation but because of East Pakistan had to be a compromise but in 2019 I say Pakistan national language should be Urdu and English, Provincial Govts can mandate citizens in to learn the regional language as well as National together I am for bilingualism KPK can have Pashto language enshrined and have sighs plus heavily regional based media same with all provinces



Reason why I say English should be a 2nd language is not please "gora sahib" but because most of our diaspora is located in the Anglosphere you will find more of us in the UK,USA,Canada,Australia,or NZ than Turkey,Iran, China,GCC most 2nd and 3rd gen like myself barley speak Urdu or speak with heavy accent if you want to connect with us and help promote Pakistan internationally thats the best option

Was Urdu just chosen as the national language? I don’t know much about the issue, but surely it wasn’t picked out of a hat. If Dari was ‘chosen’ at independence, would that have been accepted?

 

[Philip the Arab]

Reason why I say English should be a 2nd language is not please "gora sahib" but because most of our diaspora is located in the Anglosphere you will find more of us in the UK,USA,Canada,Australia,or NZ than Turkey,Iran, China,GCC most 2nd and 3rd gen like myself barley speak Urdu or speak with heavy accent if you want to connect with us and help promote Pakistan internationally thats the best option

No, GCC has majority of Diasporic Pakistanis than rest of the world combined.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overseas_Pakistani

Saudi Arabia 2,600,000 (2017 estimate)[1]

United Arab Emirates 1,500,000 (2017 estimate)[1]

United Kingdom 1,174,983 (2011 Official UK Census)[2][a]

United States 1,000,000 (2018 Official United States Census)[3]

Oman 231,685 (2016 Official Oman estimate)[4]

Canada 215,560 (2016 Official Canada Census)[5]

Qatar 125,000 (2016 estimate)[6]

France 120,000 (2017 estimate)[1]

Italy 118,181 (2017 Official Italy estimate)[7]

Bahrain 117,000 (2017 estimate)[1]

Kuwait 109,853 (2016 Official Kuwait estimate)[8]

Spain 91,632 (2019 Official Spain estimate)[9]

Germany 73,975 (2018 Official Germany estimate)[10]

Australia 64,346 (2016 Official Australia Census)[11]

Malaysia 59,281 (2017 Official Malaysia estimate)[12]

Norway 46,300 (2019 Official Norway estimate)[13]

Iran 40,000 (2017 estimate)[1]

Greece 34,177 (2011 Official Greece Census)[14]

Denmark 25,661 (2019 Official Denmark estimate)[15]

 

[Great Janjua]

The provincial language off a province should be first then Urdu should follow not the other way around making Urdu a priority and leaving out the provincial language was a blunder thats why we have these liberal burger bachay in abundance nowadays

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

If you want my honest opinion I would say Farsi and Dari should have been chosen as our "national language" when we gained our independence in 1947 making Urdu as national language was plain mistake on the founding fathers of the nation but because of East Pakistan had to be a compromise but in 2019 I say Pakistan national language should be Urdu and English, Provincial Govts can mandate citizens in to learn the regional language as well as National together I am for bilingualism KPK can have Pashto language enshrined and have sighs plus heavily regional based media same with all provinces

Accommodating Biharis in East Pakistan was one of the reason to choose Urdu however it backfired when Bengalis found it difficult against Biharis to climb up the ladder in the civil services.

Lets be realistic..Urdu is here to stay.. What we can do is based on the need and interest adopt a new language
Like EU has people learning multiple languages starting from early childhood we can learn something here.i spent my early childhood in Europe, we were taught three languages..A human mind is capable to adopt 3-4 languages very easily.
Something similar can be experimented in Pakistan.I say start with the following 4 languages ,Urdu,Persian(Dari),Turkish and Arabic.We can add Indonesian and other languages with time.Lets make Pakistan the switzerland of this region.It improves our regional connectivity.

 

[Yankee-stani]

No, GCC has majority of Diasporic Pakistanis than rest of the world combined.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overseas_Pakistani

Saudi Arabia 2,600,000 (2017 estimate)[1]

United Arab Emirates 1,500,000 (2017 estimate)[1]

United Kingdom 1,174,983 (2011 Official UK Census)[2][a]

United States 1,000,000 (2018 Official United States Census)[3]

Oman 231,685 (2016 Official Oman estimate)[4]

Canada 215,560 (2016 Official Canada Census)[5]

Qatar 125,000 (2016 estimate)[6]

France 120,000 (2017 estimate)[1]

Italy 118,181 (2017 Official Italy estimate)[7]

Bahrain 117,000 (2017 estimate)[1]

Kuwait 109,853 (2016 Official Kuwait estimate)[8]

Spain 91,632 (2019 Official Spain estimate)[9]

Germany 73,975 (2018 Official Germany estimate)[10]

Australia 64,346 (2016 Official Australia Census)[11]

Malaysia 59,281 (2017 Official Malaysia estimate)[12]

Norway 46,300 (2019 Official Norway estimate)[13]

Iran 40,000 (2017 estimate)[1]

Greece 34,177 (2011 Official Greece Census)[14]

Denmark 25,661 (2019 Official Denmark estimate)[15]

Correct but the Migrants to the GCC are not becoming citizens,they are just cheap labor for the Gulf Arab states the diaspora in the Anglospshere are tax paying citizens who can deepen ties with their host nations and Pakistan by lobbying our narrative plus they more highly educated more likely there than in the GCC

Was Urdu just chosen as the national language? I don’t know much about the issue, but surely it wasn’t picked out of a hat. If Dari was ‘chosen’ at independence, would that have been accepted?

Adding East Pakistan was mistake Bangladesh should have been independent in 1947 would have saved us from the events of 1971

Accommodating Biharis in East Pakistan was one of the reason to choose Urdu however it backfired when Bengalis found it difficult against Biharis to climb up the ladder in the civil services.

Lets be realistic..Urdu is here to stay.. What we can do is based on the need and interest adopt a new language
Like EU has people learning multiple languages starting from early childhood we can learn something here.i spent my early childhood in Europe, we were taught three languages..A human mind is capable to adopt 3-4 languages very easily.
Something similar can be experimented in Pakistan.I say start with the following 4 languages ,Urdu,Persian(Dari),Turkish and Arabic.We can add Indonesian and other languages with time.Lets make Pakistan the switzerland of this region.It improves our regional connectivity.

I agree Urdu is here to stay but I would like for our nation to know Dari and Farsi at least we can then fully move westward and become a true Eurasian state

*BTW do you live in Turkey atm

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

*BTW do you live in Turkey atm

Ive lived a chunk of my life in Turkey.
i keep going back and forth.

 

[Yankee-stani]

Ive lived a chunk of my life in Turkey.
i keep going back and forth.

Were you parents Diplomats can you speak Turkish well and do you understand their people and society

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

Were you parents Diplomats can you speak Turkish well and do you understand their people and society

yes you can say , cant reveal a lot here.

 

[Yankee-stani]

yes you can say , cant reveal a lot here.

Alright Officer, anyways how do you see Turkey as a nation I think Pakistanis know very little of the country besides Erdogan,and their s,,,ty tv dramas lol

 

[Philip the Arab]

Were you parents Diplomats can you speak Turkish well and do you understand their people and society

It isn't some magic society, America is where its at homie.

 

[Yankee-stani]

It isn't some magic society, America is where its at homie.

DAS RITE AND BIG PICK UP TRUCKS MURICAAA F.CK YEAH

 

[M.Bison]

DAS RITE AND BIG PICK UP TRUCKS MURICAAA F.CK YEAH

are you from ny?

 

[Philip the Arab]

DAS RITE AND BIG PICK UP TRUCKS MURICAAA F.CK YEAH

Nah homie, I live in the DC suburbs with hella Mexican homies.