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Saudi woman to get 10 lashes for driving a car

Saudi woman to get 10 lashes for driving a car

A Saudi Arabian woman drives a car June 17, 2011, in this image made from video released by Change.org as part of a campaign to defy Saudi Arabia's ban on women driving in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.
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(AP) CAIRO - A Saudi woman was sentenced Tuesday to be lashed 10 times with a whip for defying the kingdom's prohibition on female drivers, the first time a legal punishment has been handed down for a violation of the longtime ban in the ultraconservative Muslim nation.


Normally, police just stop female drivers, question them and let them go after they sign a pledge not to drive again. But dozens of women have continued to take to the roads since June in a campaign to break the taboo.


Making Tuesday's sentence all the more upsetting to activists is that it came just two days after King Abdullah promised to protect women's rights and decreed that women would be allowed to participate in municipal elections in 2015. Abdullah also promised to appoint women to a currently all-male advisory body known as the Shura Council.

The mixed signals highlight the challenge for Abdullah, known as a reformer, in pushing gently for change without antagonizing the powerful clergy and a conservative segment of the population.


Abdullah said he had the backing of the official clerical council. But activists saw Tuesday's sentencing as a retaliation of sorts from the hard-line Saudi religious establishment that controls the courts and oversees the intrusive religious police.


"Our king doesn't deserve that," said Sohila Zein el-Abydeen, a prominent female member of the governmental National Society for Human Rights. She burst into tears in a phone interview and said, "The verdict is shocking to me, but we were expecting this kind of reaction."


The driver, Shaima Jastaina, in her 30s, was found guilty of driving without permission, activist Samar Badawi said. The punishment is usually carried out within a month. It was not possible to reach Jastaina, but Badawi, in touch with Jastaina's family, said she appealed the verdict.


Saudi Arabia is the only country in the world that bans women — both Saudi and foreign — from driving. The prohibition forces families to hire live-in drivers, and those who cannot afford the $300 to $400 a month for a driver must rely on male relatives to drive them to work, school, shopping or the doctor.


There are no written laws that restrict women from driving. Rather, the ban is rooted in conservative traditions and religious views that hold giving freedom of movement to women would make them vulnerable to sins.


Activists say the religious justification is irrelevant.


"How come women get flogged for driving while the maximum penalty for a traffic violation is a fine, not lashes?" Zein el-Abydeen said. "Even the Prophet (Muhammad's) wives were riding camels and horses because these were the only means of transportation."


Since June, dozens of women have led a campaign to try to break the taboo and impose a new status quo. The campaign's founder, Manal al-Sherif, who posted a video of herself driving on Facebook, was detained for more than 10 days. She was released after signing a pledge not to drive or speak to media.


Since then, women have been appearing in the streets driving their cars once or twice a week.


Until Tuesday, none had been sentenced by the courts. But recently, several women have been summoned for questioning by the prosecutor general and referred to trial.


One of them, housewife Najalaa al-Harriri, drove only two times, not out of defiance, but out of need, she says.


"I don't have a driver. I needed to drop my son off at school and pick up my daughter from work," she said over the phone from the western port city of Jeddah.


"The day the king gave his speech, I was sitting at the prosecutor's office and was asked why I needed to drive, how many times I drove and where," she said. She is to stand trial in a month.


After the king's announcement about voting rights for women, Saudi Arabia's Grand Mufti Abdel Aziz Al Sheik blessed the move and said, "It's for women's good."


Al-Harriri, who is one of the founders of a women's rights campaign called "My Right My Dignity," said, "It is strange that I was questioned at a time the mufti himself blessed the king's move."


Asked if the sentencing will stop women from driving, Maha al-Qahtani, another female activist, said, "This is our right, whether they like it or not."

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I have never been or seen any public sentence... There are no public sentences anymore.....

I heard in saudi arabia execution/be heading are done publicly :undecided:
 
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Its not how hard it would be but why it would be for driving car .:angry:
 
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I don't think woman will be whipped publicly .

lashes+for+a+teacher.jpg


^^ Public Lashing of a female teacher, September 2010.



I also have a link to a video of one of this year's beheading done in public with men and children rushing to the scene to witness the spectacular view of severing of the head of a convict, but I am sure it will not be in good sense.
 
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The driver, Shaima Jastaina, in her 30s, was found guilty of driving without permission


Whose permission is needed??


There are no written laws that restrict women from driving. Rather, the ban is rooted in conservative traditions and religious views that hold giving freedom of movement to women would make them vulnerable to sins.

So women are more vulnerable to sin? And the relationship between driving and sin is..............?????

At the root of this is of course the notion that women are possessions and that slave master mentality is codified in the notion of the Wali

Will it really be possible for Arabian society to deliberate whether the Wali concept has relevance in today's society? I don't think so, Maso has pointed out that radical change is dangerous and he has a point - but here the issue is more interesting, if for instance it is argued that Wali is a "Islamic" notion, well, that will certainly make things more interesting.

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lashes+for+a+teacher.jpg


^^ Public Lashing of a female teacher, September 2010.



I also have a link to a video of one of this year's beheading done in public with men and children rushing to the scene to witness the spectacular view of severing of the head of a convict, but I am sure it will not be in good sense.

Where do you think Talib got their idea of religious police and beating women in the streets??
 
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I am sure beheading is reserved for crimes that fit the punishment.
The way they chop the head is the least painful method . Compare to
Electric chair, it cake walk.

As you can see from the photo, the hand is not extended outwards enough
to much pain. Regardless, the punishment is un-islamic ( for driving a car)
 
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Whose permission is needed??




So women are more vulnerable to sin? And the relationship between driving and sin is..............?????

At the root of this is of course the notion that women are possessions and that slave master mentality is codified in the notion of the Wali

Will it really be possible for Arabian society to deliberate whether the Wali concept has relevance in today's society? I don't think so, Maso has pointed out that radical change is dangerous and he has a point - but here the issue is more interesting, if for instance it is argued that Wali is a "Islamic" notion, well, that will certainly make things more interesting.

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Where do you think Talib got their idea of religious police and beating women in the streets??
as if the women drivers will become who*es if they drive or start prostitution in their cars ? that's what they think???
 
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^^ Public Lashing of a female teacher, September 2010.



I also have a link to a video of one of this year's beheading done in public with men and children rushing to the scene to witness the spectacular view of severing of the head of a convict, but I am sure it will not be in good sense.

And they say zaman jahiliyah is well in the past :disagree:

I have no idea what century they're living in.
 
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as if the women drivers will become who*es if they drive or start prostitution in their cars ? that's what they think???

Well, patriarchal tribal societies, with a slave keeping history, a history of multiple wives (women) as representations of wealth and a culture of shame and honor, well, there's a prudish sensibility, and well.... well, OK, yes, that's what they seem to be afraid of... in general women scare them, it seems... they wrap it up as respect and protection, but obviously you don't need to protect something that you are not afraid you will somehow lose, right?
 
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I think they out did the saudis on many counts....................

I doubt that. I haven't seen any videos or pictures of the Talibans executing any convict in the area where kids can reach and enjoy the show. Besides, the Taliban use various methods for execution that can be dangerous for onlookers, such as bullets and rockets. So it is often done far away from the towns.

Rest, everything is just same.
 
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As an areligious person, I have to say that the one branch of Islam that I utterly despise is the Wahhabi branch.
 
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I doubt that. I haven't seen any videos or pictures of the Talibans executing any convict in the area where kids can reach and enjoy the show. Besides, the Taliban use various methods for execution that can be dangerous for onlookers, such as bullets and rockets. So it is often done far away from the towns.

Rest, everything is just same.

no dude.....public executions were common place in afg under the talibunnies....

hang-1.jpg


zarmina1.jpg


taliban-justice.jpg


25420-taliban-executions-still-haunt-afghan-soccer-field-200.jpg
 
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