Saudi opposition to the Iranian nuclear deal is irrational

[Saif al-Arab]

I beg to differ. Iran's rival is Saudi Arabia, not the Arab world. Algeria and Iraq and Syria for example have good relations with Iran.

The talk was Arabs vs Iran and last time I checked those countries are Arab countries. Al-Assad won't last forever and the vast majority of Syrians have nothing more than contempt towards the Iranian Mullah regime. Especially after their toxic support for the mass-murderer Al-Assad.
Algeria has close to no ties with Iran and the only reason why they are neutral vis-a-vis KSA is because they are under heavy Russian influence and Russia's and KSA's relations nowadays are not the best although they might become better when Putin leaves as he won't rule forever. Same with the situation in Iraq. At the end of the day blood is thicker than water.

The vast majority of the Arab world stands firmly behind KSA including the most populous country (Egypt).

 

[munchkin]

At the end of the day blood is thicker than water.

Arab is a cultural identity. It has nothing to do with genetics.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Arab is a cultural identity. It has nothing to do with genetics.

It does. Arabs share ancestry (confirmed by several DNA tests), culture, language, religion, history, cuisine, geographic proximity and an ancient Semitic past mostly. We all consider ourselves as Arabs or Semites and we are all historical attached to our ancient lands which are connected from Morocco to Oman. It's something that non-Arabs will never understand.
In any case all people are mixed and nobody is genetically pure and we are all originally from South Africa. You are a former user are you not and likely not to be Canadian at all. I think I know you.

 

[munchkin]

It does. Arabs share ancestry (confirmed by several DNA tests), culture, language, religion, history, cuisine, geographic proximity and an ancient Semitic past mostly. In any case all people are mixed and nobody is genetically pure and we are all originally from South Africa. You are a former user are you not and likely not to be Canadian at all. I think I know you.

I know Egyptians and they look nothing like Saudi Arabians. They have fuzzy hair. Tee hee.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Obvious troll is obvious. Saudi Arabians are direct neighbors with Egypt, share an millennium long history (Semitic and Cushitic) with each other that long predates Islam, language, dialect, cuisine, culture, geography etc. There are millions of people of Egyptian origin in KSA (especially in nearby Hijaz) and vice versa and you often can't tell them apart from the 1-2 million Egyptians that work inside KSA. It's one of the dumbest things that I have read today and I have otherwise argued with too many trolls today.

 

[Madali]

Arab is a cultural identity. It has nothing to do with genetics.

I agree. This is why I mentioned previously that certain posters seem to only think in terms of race.

This is not a "race" . This is a power struggle, nothing new, nothing unique, nothing strange. Every country is looking for their own interests, from Iran, to India, to Saudi, to USA, to Zimbabwe. The question is that always interests me is, are the decisions wise?

 

[munchkin]

I agree. This is why I mentioned previously that certain posters seem to only think in terms of race.

This is not a "race" . This is a power struggle, nothing new, nothing unique, nothing strange. Every country is looking for their own interests, from Iran, to India, to Saudi, to USA, to Zimbabwe. The question is that always interests me is, are the decisions wise?

Exactly. Arabs are not a unique genetic group as much as Americans are not a unique genetic group. Over the millenia, many people became Arabs when they adopted the Arabic language. There used to be Aramaic, Phoenician, Akkadian etc. Now there are only Arabic and Hebrew left in the Semitic lanuages.

 

[Daneshmand]

I ignore him you do the same

That is what I do, except when I want to spite 'em!

Well iran is negotiating a peace deal like Libya did , and hoping for a different outcome

Not really. Libya gave up its ENTIRE program. Every screw, bolt and even the technical crew. Iran is not giving up anything. Just halving its number of centrifuges for a few years. Every thing will remain as it was before.

 

[Madali]

Exactly. Arabs are not a unique genetic group as much as Americans are not a unique genetic group. Over the millenia, many people became Arabs when they adopted the Arabic language. There used to be Aramaic, Phoenician, Akkadian etc. Now there are only Arabic and Hebrew left in the Semitic lanuages.

I don't think historically anyone in the region gave a shit about race. Tribes were important, obviously, but not the genetic racial concept that was and is big in Europe.

That's why Prophet Mohammad didn't care that Salman and Bilal were not Arabs.

 

[munchkin]

That is what I do, except when I want to spite 'em!



Not really. Libya gave up its ENTIRE program. Every screw, bolt and even the technical crew. Iran is not giving up anything. Just halving its number of centrifuges for a few years. Every thing will remain as it was before.

Iran is fine. Iran is in the Middle East region, not geographically isolated like Libya is. Plus, Iran is too close to Russia for Russia to not care about it tee hee.

 

[Daneshmand]

Iran is fine. Iran is in the Middle East region, not geographically isolated like Libya is. Plus, Iran is too close to Russia for Russia to not care about it tee hee.

That is all the more reasons!

 

[munchkin]

That is all the more reasons!

A few thousand S300 / S400 and no one would dare to bomb Iran. Problem solved.