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Saudi FM arriving to discuss Pakistan's involvement in 34-nation military alliance

I meant how you came to the conclusion that Kurds, Persians/Iranians and Alawites weren't Muslims,

That is what outsiders like to think and believe. The Saudis can't do anything in Pakistan.

Pakistan has already distanced itself from American/Saudi coalition.

I did not come to the conclusion about the religion of the Kurds, Persians/Iranians and Alawites. another person did.

Why don't you come out and say that Pakistan is not a part of the 34 country anti-terror alliance ? 3 million Pakistanis work in the GCC states. they were pretty replaceable.
 
I did not come to the conclusion about the religion of the Kurds, Persians/Iranians and Alawites. another person did.

Why don't you come out and say that Pakistan is not a part of the 34 country anti-terror alliance ? 3 million Pakistanis work in the GCC states. they were pretty replaceable.

You posed the question. The answer to your question is that they could be Muslims.

I already did, but if you insist. Pakistan isn't part of the 34 country shambolic Saudi/American alliance.

You making hollow threats about the workers? Expell them and see what happens. Don't think we have other options too.
 
I have no idea but their is a story or reality I don't know but my bradari claim to be Syrian origin and may I find it offensive :lol:
Unlike brown skin Arabs, people of Levant, particularly Syrians are quite light skinned (goras) due to historical events i.e Romans and Crusaders conquest, rapes, migration, conversion, mixing and so on in that area. So just like desis mentality, they are quite high on goraness fever. Unless your bradari speaks Arabi and looks gora, they might get disappointed meeting their long lost brethren.
 
How paranoid can you get?

If "they" wanted to hurt Pakistan, "they" would have focused on destabilizing Afghanistan further and had them pour into Pakistan. "They" didn't need to destroy multiple countries thousands of miles away in different continents.

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Bro, in Realpolitik there is nothing like paranoia nor conspiracy.

Destabilizing Afghanistan ? What do you they were doing since many years but did they succeed in destabilizing Pakistan ? Not too much because Pak Army reacted. But still we paid heavy price.

And how many time in Pakistan there were specifically targeted Sunni or Shias ? They tried but failed. And now they try again Sunnis / Shias card but far away from Pakistan. Several countries were not happy about nuke deal with Iran, so the started fire between Saudians and Iranians... Hoping they will fifth each other and tried to implicate Pakistan I it.

And remember what they did during Iran/Iraq war... They eated popcorn. Was it a paranoi if someone said that some countries are pushing other in war ?

It's hitting two birds with one stone.


It's a chess game.

And some already bought lot of popcorn.
 
Pakistan should sell JF-17 to this 34 nation military alliance and play active role to control the craziness of some kings in KSA ..
 
That is your wishful thinking, but we are not going to become embroiled in another war.

I would rather refer the Saudis to their Indian "brothers". Another option of course are the Americans.

@wiseone2 has a valid point. Dont forget that a cold war has been going on between Iran and Saudi Arabia since 80s. And since then we have seen rise in sectarian terror with groups funded by both Iran and Saudis to fight their ideological war in our country.

If it becomes a full blown, war Pakistan will face consequences as it has large shia population of about 40%.

But Pakistan does not have the leadership to resolve this dispute or ward off the aftermath of a conflict. Politicians who seek to find safe havens for their looted wealth in Middle East, seek Mid East's leaders interference to do deals to stay in power, or seek their countries refuge, cant be considered serious or respected interlocutors.
 
@wiseone2 has a valid point. Dont forget that a cold war has been going on between Iran and Saudi Arabia since 80s. And since then we have seen rise in sectarian terror with groups funded by both Iran and Saudis to fight their ideological war in our country.

If it becomes a full blown, war Pakistan will face consequences as it has large shia population of about 40%.

But Pakistan does not have the leadership to resolve this dispute or ward off the aftermath of a conflict. Politicians who seek to find safe havens for their looted wealth in Middle East, seek Mid East's leaders interference to do deals to stay in power, or seek their countries refuge, cant be considered serious or respected interlocutors.

Pakistan is wise for once in trying to stay out of Yemen. Given the track record of Pakistanis getting money from the Gulf I do not see how Pakistan can escape this. The Pakistani army has the power to stop this from getting into Pakistan. But it will consume a lot of their political capital and resources. The Saudi-Iranian rivalry is too intense to ignore - way too many battlegrounds - Iraq, Eastern Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Yemen, Syria, Lebanon. You can just pray that Saudi Arabia and Iran declare a truce

You posed the question. The answer to your question is that they could be Muslims.

I already did, but if you insist. Pakistan isn't part of the 34 country shambolic Saudi/American alliance.

You making hollow threats about the workers? Expell them and see what happens. Don't think we have other options too.

I asked the question because someone made them non-Muslim.

Pakistan is a member of the 34th country alliance. Your government has not said that they are not part of the alliance.
Pakistan included in Saudi Arabia's 34-state Islamic military alliance against terrorism - The Express Tribune

I am in no position to expel those workers. There is nothing Pakistan can do about it if Gulf states expel those workers. For that matter there is nothing India can do if the Gulf states expelled Indian workers.
 
What we need to do is lock the Saudis and Iranians in a room and throw away the key to the lock until they put aside their stupid differences and end their d1ck measuring contests......because of both countries there are problems in Syria and Iraq (i blame the west more for this)

We should join only if its ISIS specific and not an alliance to change governments

it's only about interfering in Syria and elsewhere.......which is why we should have nothing to do with it. The Saudis (royal family) will shake hands with the devil himself if it means Assad gets toppled. Assad is no saint either - far from it. Nobody is clean in this dirty game. Everyone has their proxies (the Iranians have theirs)
 
After spreading fire everywhere he comes in to make sure we are on their side? These Saudis are beginning to see their decline due to international isolation and oil price problems which really is their 70% of economy.

One should ask them now, what would pilots get to bomb civilians in yemen? Downgraded to remote controlled toy cars? This family and its ruling on SA has been a curse for everyone.
 
After spreading fire everywhere he comes in to make sure we are on their side? These Saudis are beginning to see their decline due to international isolation and oil price problems which really is their 70% of economy.

One should ask them now, what would pilots get to bomb civilians in yemen? Downgraded to remote controlled toy cars? This family and its ruling on SA has been a curse for everyone.

The Pakistani establishment has done their part to prop the Saudis in the past
 
The Pakistani establishment has done their part to prop the Saudis in the past

Nawaz would gladly clean the king's toilet if asked. But as far as Pakistan as a country and my thought process goes, there wouldn't be any physical support unless SA is under siege and its something they themselves cant handle. That point was presented to them when they came asking for military support for Yemen stupor.
 
It's mind-boggling how global political scene changed in few years. In just a short span of 5 years, the focus shifted from Afghanistan-Pakistan and Taliban to Syria, Iraq and the rest of the middle east and Isis.

And Now the looming Saudi-Iran crisis on the horizon. Global political tensions have never been this hot.
 

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